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Labour battles back - possibility of a hung parliament or Labour majority heightens! watch

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    (Original post by RooKnight)
    Urrrm, not in the quarter that has Christmas conveniently placed into it. You should be looking at 1.5% - 2.0% growth in Oct/Dec.

    In response to your other question. What economic mess? You nutter, we have had the worst period of economic downturn in 20 years. Not good to have on your CV that one Mr Brown. All be it, it isn't his fault, but 0.1% growth and £200bn in borrowed funds. God I feel for those repaying it. Oh yeah, that's us.



    Hear Hear.
    Anyone who truely understood the business cycle would never come up with rubbish like 'we should be expecting 2% growth' which leads me to believe you dont. When a country comes out of recession it doesnt just go back to previous growth prior to recession it goes into recovery, this means any growth is good. Your last line is quite funny because it shows the lack of previous economic knowledge and general knowledge. Large deficit is better than having a prolonged deep recession, youve just listened to the Tories rubbish about the deficit that you cant even remember why its so big.
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    (Original post by patricko)
    But 0.1% isn't a figure to inspire confidence is it? A predict growth of 1% in the next year isn't that impressive either. The road to recovery will be long and tricky. This little rise won't really change much.
    And what about a double dip? What happens once people stop spending money as it's no longer christmas? What happens now the car scrapage scheme has ended? What happens if the BoE stop pumping money in?
    Well thats what a recovery is, small increases in growth. so if we saw 1% growth this year that would be great because it'd mean the bad times are behind us. In relation to your last questions, the answer is 'we go back into recession' the hope is that people feel the recession is over so they stop saving and start spending.
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    I can't be bothered to respond to socialists.
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    (Original post by RooKnight)
    I can't be bothered to respond to socialists.
    Do you realise how childish that sounds?
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    (Original post by RooKnight)
    I can't be bothered to respond to socialists.
    That is understandable, and i realise i must have sounded harsh in my post, but i see little point in allowing those like yourself who just go with what the crowd says. If you understand the economics and form a valid opinion then fair but if your just spouting things your heard someone else say then i find that harder to take. In this situation im not even arguing pro labour, its more pro keynesian, however if that makes me a socialist in your eyes then so be it.
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    There are other options besides these two ********* parties. Whilst most people are too afraid to "waste" their vote to vote for something different, Im not.

    UKIP all the way.
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    (Original post by yoyo462001)
    That is understandable, ... in your eyes then so be it.
    I'm letting you off. I realised that you were like a 2nd year uni economist and sounded the retreat! My 2 term AS level economics was nothing.
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    People seem to forget that the current Conservative lead is NOTHING compared to Labours lead over the Conservatives in 97. Labour still has much support, showing clearly the Conservatives still have a clear social stigma. I'm with the Op, i'm elated about the prospect of a hung parliament/Labour Majoirty. I can't stand Smarmy Cameron, and the rest of his cabinet, the expection being William Hauge; he should go Labour.
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    It amazes me though, how many people I personally know who will be voting tactically to keep the Conservatives out this year. And I'm in one of the (if not THE) safest Conservative seat in the country.
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    (Original post by alecangeltess)
    Also, Brown is competent of running the country, has lifted us from recession, kept unemployment down, while continuing good morals and the emphasis of the public sector.
    Compleely agree- Brown does not get half as much credit as he deserves.

    I will certainly be voting for Labour in May
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    (Original post by lollapalooza)
    Compleely agree- Brown does not get half as much credit as he deserves.

    I will certainly be voting for Labour in May
    I agree and so will I

    Brown bashing just seems to be the 'in' thing at the moment. And finally its nice to see from this thread that many people are also coming round to think like this. You have to remember a lot of the things Brown gets blamed for he had no control over, things would have been no different if the Tories were in charge over that period and instead of bashing Labour we would all be bashing the Tories right now.

    God help us if the Tories win, I can only see bad things if that slimy **** Cameron is in Downing Street.
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    (Original post by Jacky_B)
    I agree and so will I

    Brown bashing just seems to be the 'in' thing at the moment. And finally its nice to see from this thread that many people are also coming round to think like this. You have to remember a lot of the things Brown gets blamed for he had no control over, things would have been no different if the Tories were in charge over that period and instead of bashing Labour we would all be bashing the Tories right now.

    God help us if the Tories win, I can only see bad things if that slimy **** Cameron is in Downing Street.
    What is so slimy about Cameron? He's merely carrying on the Conservative policy of trying to get into power. I say give him a chance to prove what he claims about himself. A well educated caring conservative. Nothing wrong with that.
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    are people actually willing to have Brown and the labour party in for another term? :eyeball:
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    One opinion poll .... lol. I wouldn't get too excited. Tory vote is generally underestimated in polls anyway. I wouldn't be surprised if Dave polls 41-44%.
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    (Original post by Jacky_B)
    I agree and so will I

    Brown bashing just seems to be the 'in' thing at the moment. And finally its nice to see from this thread that many people are also coming round to think like this. You have to remember a lot of the things Brown gets blamed for he had no control over, things would have been no different if the Tories were in charge over that period and instead of bashing Labour we would all be bashing the Tories right now.

    God help us if the Tories win, I can only see bad things if that slimy **** Cameron is in Downing Street.
    Unfortuatnley, theres a lot he did have control over as well
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    Unfortuatnley, theres a lot he did have control over as well
    Like?
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    (Original post by yoyo462001)
    Like?

    how about like setting the budget since 1997 that got us into this horrific mess?

    As a prime minister he hasn't done much wrong, mainly because he hasn't done much at all, but, with hindsight, he has to go down as one of the worst chancellors in the last 100 years. Almost as bad as **** ing Churchill.
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    I'm beginning to think we might need a positive dictatorship.
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    (Original post by py0alb)
    how about like setting the budget since 1997 that got us into this horrific mess?

    As a prime minister he hasn't done much wrong, mainly because he hasn't done much at all, but, with hindsight, he has to go down as one of the worst chancellors in the last 100 years. Almost as bad as **** ing Churchill.
    I'm going to have to disagree with that comment about the budget. This was a crisi really caused by the American housing market. However, I think he could have been a bit better placed to deal with it.
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    (Original post by yoyo462001)
    Like?
    Increasing the national debt from 43% to 72% of GDP. C.F. Thatcher 44% decreasing to 26%?

    Announcing he was going to sell large quantity gold at a certain date... can you get more economically stupid?

    Cash for Honours, some really terrible legislation such as religious hate crimes bill. Announcing the end of "Boom and Bust" in '97 before leading us into a recession. Being a terrible and weak leader of his party.

    There'll be much much more, but Ive got to be off to Sainsburys.
 
 
 
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