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    (Original post by JME10)
    Tons of women are happy to portray themselves as sexual objects. What planet are you living on?
    I'm aware. But there's a wider societal effect upon other women who don't want to merely be seen as sex objects.
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    How about... wait, this may be a little too outside the box here, but I'll go along with it anyway, sorry if the idea doesn't catch on at first... You just don't buy the Sun?

    Wait, no, that'd be too obvious.
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    (Original post by KatieY :))
    I just don't see any need for page 3 - it has no purpose whatsoever (but then I suppose I'm not a guy :p: )
    I'm a guy and i agree. It's not even like it's a cool thing to be sitting on a train and be seen oogling at a woman's breasts, be real!
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    (Original post by Rizzletastic)
    I cut out one once which I saw in which the woman was talking about the Magna Carta :rofl:
    Seriously? Well I must say... I'm surprised that she knew what a console was for.
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    (Original post by 35mm_)
    Where is this 'proven evidence'? Can you link me to a source or something? And of course it does! When a woman says 'no' and the man fails to realise that 'no' actually does mean 'no' and so continues to sexually assualt her, then that leads to a 'sex crime'.

    You're an idiot, or a troll. Or both. Nobody deserves to be raped.

    I read it awhile ago, Perhaps you should educate yourself on the matter rather than guess at a correlation between page 3 and sex crimes.


    You say no one deserves to be raped.... but i met some girls who frankly.... well lets just say they were real *****es.
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    I broadly agree.
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    I love how you are so bothered by page three but ignore the hardcore porn we can all access easily on the internet.

    I also find it odd how you think you have a right to do soem form of social engineering.

    Men will like girls, we want to see naked girls. Don;t **** with us.
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    (Original post by mechazoid)
    So you think immigration is the cause of rape? so what about when there were less immigrants in the country? and what about the date rapers and the you're at my party too drunk to say yes sort of rapists, i don;t think theya re immigrants.

    This is a ridiculous thing.
    Not the sole cause, I made a second point as well, that rape must have happened in the past but it just wasn't recorded - and that was when we had a white society; so I've already shown from the start that I wasn't saying that immigrants CAUSE rape.

    But in Muslim culture, and also in the culture of non-Muslim Africans their attitudes to women are behind the cultures of the western world regarding women - and they're more likely to sexually assault women.

    I think people need to understand that race and culture are different things. I'm not saying that having black or brown skin makes you more likely to sexually assault somebody, that clearly is absurd, but the culture of countries where the populations happen to be black make it more likely. For what it's worth I'm very pro-immigration and think most problems associated with it, e.g. the rises in sexual assaults, go away after the first generational wave.
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    I thought woman were sex objects until I read this thread.
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    No matter how old you are, picking up the Sun and accidentally opening it up onto a massive pair of breasts in public makes you feel like a pervert and ashamed. Or is it just me?
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    (Original post by mechazoid)
    You say no one deserves to be raped.... but i met some girls who frankly.... well lets just say they were real *****es.
    :rofl: Sick.
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    I really don't see how there is a link between sex crimes and page three :confused: :confused:
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    (Original post by CandyFlipper)
    Not the sole cause, I made a second point as well, that rape must have happened in the past but it just wasn't recorded - and that was when we had a white society; so I've already shown from the start that I wasn't saying that immigrants CAUSE rape.

    But in Muslim culture, and also in the culture of non-Muslim Africans their attitudes to women are behind the cultures of the western world regarding women - and they're more likely to sexually assault women.

    I think people need to understand that race and culture are different things. I'm not saying that having black or brown skin makes you more likely to sexually assault somebody, that clearly is absurd, but the culture of countries where the populations happen to be black make it more likely. For what it's worth I'm very pro-immigration and think most problems associated with it, e.g. the rises in sexual assaults, go away after the first generational wave.
    What? America and South Africa have the highest rape statistics.... how is rape a muslim problem?

    I just think you hate muslims.

    I think you are underestimating, the white guy at a party with a drunken girl rape stats.....

    Its cool everoyne needs someone to blame their problems on.
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    (Original post by 35mm_)
    There is clearly a connection, although unprovable, between the rising tide of sexual crime and page three.
    Oh dear.

    How can something be "clear" and "unprovable"? The two terms are incompatible and used completely in the wrong context. You really must put an end to your ridiculous arguments on here 35mm.
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    Actually, lack of pirates in the world is why we have so many more bad things, like global warming - Wikipedia has the stats.
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    (Original post by mechazoid)
    I realise women can't just accept any sexual advance. However unlike your false belief that page 3 contributes to sex scrimes, there is proven evidense showing sexual rejection leads to sex crimes.
    So i just brought up a fact.

    I'd advise women not to be so callous when they turn down men, otherwise they might get raped. Frankly i think some of them deserve it.

    See how arrogant they are then.
    Troll?

    I don't see how anyone can make a genuine argument for someone deserving to be raped for rejecting someone. We are talking about someone potentially being impregnated, given an STD, having a lot of damage done to them and thus being a lot of pain for a while (I know someone who was raped who couldn't walk without severe pain for weeks), not to mention any mental health issues such as self esteem problems and trauma that result. I just don't see why you are blaming this on women purely for saying no in a nasty manner. I feel sorry for anyone who is retarded enough to become your partner.

    (Original post by mechazoid)
    What? America and South Africa have the highest rape statistics.... how is rape a muslim problem?
    Just because the statistics are higher doesn't mean there are more rapes. It may go unreported elsewhere.
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    (Original post by dichr0ic)
    you guys write too much

    it should be banned because it's scatty, banal, unnecessary and hinders the development of males (and also females who like that shiz) who buy this tripe. seriously, it's a waste of ink or whatever

    call me old fashioned, but i don't like the concept of having ladies with their boobs out on national newspapers for all with the money to see.
    Combining this with your sig is just awesome.
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    Noooooo! What would a guy do if their internet broke? Huh?
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    (Original post by 35mm_)
    There is clearly a connection, although unprovable, between the rising tide of sexual crime and page three. The constant mass circulation of such images must, in some way, influence sexual attitudes and the sexual climate of society. These pictures portray women as objects of lust and sexual desire, and do not portray sex in a tender or private manner. They completely undermine any social progress towards 'equality of the sexes' as they propagate the notion that women are objects, rather than people with the right to be respected.

    Yes? No?
    Whilst i support the idea that page 3 is smutty, doesnt give off a good image of the british public and often falls into the hands of children, i don't think there is a link between page three and the "rising tide of sexual crime", seeing as page 3 has offered a single topless woman in every issue for years. As page 3 hasnt changed, i don't think it could have casued changes in sexual crime.
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    should trolls who make pointless threads be banned?

    that's the issue here
 
 
 
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