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algérie_mon_amour
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Some passengers at Heathrow and Manchester airports will have to go through full body scanners before boarding their flights under new rules.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8490860.stm


So does that mean only selected people will be scanned ?!

I would definitely not want to have my whole body image being generated, and I have a feeling that in few years time, they will raise concerns to the public about the danger of the scan because I'm sure having your whole body penetrated through with such strong rays can extremely damage the body cells!

I think this is rediculous!
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i've been scanned in a full body scanner before. i dont really see the problem with them.

you also get bumped to the front of the security queue (unless of course they're making everyone have them).

and they are hardly strong rays. and you cant really say they penetrate you're body. they quite obviously reflect off your skin
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(Original post by algérie_mon_amour)
Some passengers at Heathrow and Manchester airports will have to go through full body scanners before boarding their flights under new rules.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8490860.stm


So does that mean only selected people will be scanned ?!

I would definitely not want to have my whole body image being generated, and I have a feeling that in few years time, they will raise concerns to the public about the danger of the scan because I'm sure having your whole body penetrated through with such strong rays can extremely damage the body cells!

I think this is rediculous!
Where is your source to tell me that these full body scanners are harmful? Also, what is wrong with seeing a ghosted image of your body, when you cant even see your private parts
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i don't think it's ridiculous at all .It's for our safety. 1 scan won't harm you
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algérie_mon_amour
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(Original post by Jammie300)
Where is your source to tell me that these full body scanners are harmful? Also, what is wrong with seeing a ghosted image of your body, when you cant even see your private parts
Well, your 'private parts' can in fact be seen! look at the pictures in the link.
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Imagine how you would feel though if you were opposed to these scans, they didn't exist and a terrorist blew up a plane and killed someone you love because they had snuck explosives onto the plane. Then hearing 'If full body scanners had scanned the terrorist, this atrocity would have been prevented'.
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"Transport Secretary Lord Adonis said in the immediate future only a small proportion of airline passengers would be selected for scanning."

Lol.
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It might be annoying but tightening the security is the only natural thing to do to be honest. There is no other way of reducing the chance of the terrorists making it through to the plane.

Also, the radiation from a body scan is quite tiny really, the rays used to get the image are effectively radiowaves. Definitely not 'extremely damaging' as you put it.
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I hate the idea of these scanners. Eurgh.

Going through airport security is stressful enough as it is, now these things make the whole experience rather unpleasant.
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So what? All you can see is the outline, there's barely any detail at all. Even if there was, so what? It's only a penis/breasts/crotch for god's sake. Are you one of these people that doesn't use communal changing rooms and showers at swimming pools?

Besides, it's not like there's gonna be some guy at Heathrow airport getting off 50,000 times a day to the x-ray outline of a stranger's genitalia.
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(Original post by algérie_mon_amour)
Some passengers at Heathrow and Manchester airports will have to go through full body scanners before boarding their flights under new rules.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8490860.stm


So does that mean only selected people will be scanned ?!

I would definitely not want to have my whole body image being generated, and I have a feeling that in few years time, they will raise concerns to the public about the danger of the scan because I'm sure having your whole body penetrated through with such strong rays can extremely damage the body cells!

I think this is rediculous!
Nope, the dose from one of these is very tiny. You'll get many times more dose from rocks and the flight itself than from a scan.
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How much scientific knowledge do you possess to be able to make such claims that the EM waves are dangerous to humans?
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(Original post by damos92)
Imagine how you would feel though if you were opposed to these scans, they didn't exist and a terrorist blew up a plane and killed someone you love because they had snuck explosives onto the plane. Then hearing 'If full body scanners had scanned the terrorist, this atrocity would have been prevented'.
We have seen good improvements in security measures during the last few years to prevent the attacks, but still they happened.
I am against the fact that your whole body image is being seen, and also the fact that people are selected; I mean, who are they going to select? Will that not raise anger amongst certain people?
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they cant even see powders, liquids or plastics. its pathetic, just another step towards no civil liberties as far as im concerned.
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(Original post by algérie_mon_amour)
I'm sure having your whole body penetrated through with such strong rays can extremely damage the body cells!

I think this is rediculous!
Idiot. If you actually look at how they work you will see there's no danger.
There are 2 types
The first type (millimeter wave): The rays only penetrate clothes not skin
Second (backscatter): X-rays but no more than you are exposed to by flying at altitude for 2 minutes. And given you are about to board a flight that's no big deal.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...010302330.html

Whether they work in finding explosives is another matter
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Ghost Porn!
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(Original post by Phalanges)
How much scientific knowledge do you possess to be able to make such claims that the EM waves are dangerous to humans?
I don't do Physics and hence may not have any knowledge on the strenght of the radiation, but I didn't claim they are definitely dangerous, but may be found to be so in the future.
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(Original post by algérie_mon_amour)
they will raise concerns to the public about the danger of the scan because I'm sure having your whole body penetrated through with such strong rays can extremely damage the body cells!
You do realise that when you are at flight altitude you're being exposed to significantly more solar radiation, and that in itself would make any contribution from the scan negligable in comparison?
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(Original post by algérie_mon_amour)
I don't do Physics and hence may not have any knowledge on the strenght of the radiation, but I didn't claim they are definitely dangerous, but may be found to be so in the future.
You said you were sure that such strong rays can extremely damage the human body.

Everything about flying damages your body in some way, I dare say. Just think about the pressures, and altitudes your body experiences. However, I feel confident in saying that a lifetime of going through full-body scanners will be a far less substantial risk to your health than if a bomb found it's way onto a plane you were on.
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they're pointless.

in order to avoid being sued for discrimination, the airports will avoid scanning anybody from the muslim population.

(yes i know that not all terrorists are muslim, but seriously when the next attack happens the attacker is almost definately going to be one. And yes, i know that you cant always tell who is muslim by looking at them, but 99.9999% you can.)

And, they cant see powders, plastics , liquids or up your jacksy.
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