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    (Original post by paddyman4)
    I think the aim was to establish the viability of setting up a base on the moon, that would be pretty much essential if humans were to ever go to Mars.
    Yeah, that dream has long to come through. Also the base on the moon thing is not the only path. All in all there are many more important scientific research going on that needs those funds; research indispensable for further space exploration.
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    I think its really the right choice.

    We can actually get a lot more for our money by setting up a base on Phobos, a moon of Mars. Surprisingly its actually cheaper to land and return from Phobos than it is to get to the Moon - mainly due to Phobos only being 28km long, with an escape velocity of only 12m/s so all thats needed to get back is a little shove. Hopefully this is where NASA will be going with the cash soon (or at least New Scientist thinks they will).
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    (Original post by HJV)
    Yeah, screw making healthcare better available or improving education... let's spend the money on sending a man to mars, that's more useful.
    Eugh, what total rubbish.

    Colonisation and exploitation of the solar system is essential to the prolonged survival of the human race. Don't you get it? We are running out of fuel, out of cheap minerals, out of space, and out of time.

    The benefits of a short-term funding increase to healthcare or education systems is infinitesimal in comparison to learning how humans cope with permanent settlement on another world. The Lunar base would have been a superb test bed for colonisation efforts. Now we'll have to wait another decade for the Chinese to catch up.
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    (Original post by Batmaz)
    Space science has contributed a hell of a lot to so many parts of humanity. First there are the NASA spin-offs, like the stuff in babies' nappies that stores the pee? Material that can be heated to thousands of degrees on one side of a block of it and touched with your bare hand on the other?

    Second of all, there's the awe it inspired. America is at the forefront of technology and engineering because its citizens were inspired by the ingenuity of space exploration. It is suspected to be one of the reasons why so many great science is coming out of the USA, because the Apollo astronauts inspired kids at the time to grow up to be scientists. The amount of computing technology in Apollo 11 was about the same as the amount in a modern digital watch. Imagine what we could do now if there were the resources?!

    Third of all, exploration of Mars and further away is limited by the speed of light. The rovers on Mars can only be programmed in advance because of the delay of communication. This can lead to fatal accidents (for the rovers). Methane has been discovered on Mars, possibly from a biological source, and we have no way to detect if it's being emitted from a lifeform or not with our current equipment. A lot of people agree the best way to investigate the mystery is to get people onto the Martian surface.

    Establishing a base on the Moon is the first step to the rest of the universe - the escape velocity on the Moon is so much lower that it would be far more inexpensive and easier to launch missions from there. Without the Moon missions, the rest of manned space flight falls apart. And if mankind end up surviving until a disaster threatens to destroy the earth (e.g. death of the sun, asteroid, gamma ray bursts) then we kinda need to sort out an escape route, right?
    Thanks for the lecture but I consider all the above technology other than science; science as in scientific facts and theories. I sorry who had to type all the above though. I appreciate! :yep:
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    (Original post by Liquidus Zeromus)
    What a disgrace... I thought this man had more sense. Now it's become crystal clear to me that Obama is a liar and a fool - expectations were too high from the beginning, but now the Obama administration is cancelling ambitious space programs? :mad:
    And Americans living on earth are supposed to pay financially and in terms of failing infrastructure for your expectations?

    You realise that despite the worst recession and the highest recorded deficit in America, he still plans on increasing NASA's budget. And preparing and testing the technology that will eventually allow human space flight projects like the moon landings to resume once we are in better economic shape.
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    (Original post by Saff123)
    See Kepler for real wow factor science.

    Making this happen would have required a 10 year budget hike for NASA.
    That's not even remotely popular, nor sensible, in the current recession. In fact the British government has just cut back on University funding. Governments all over the world are having to make dear sacrifices at home let alone space.
    You mean the Kepler mission. Yeah I agree that it would bring more to the scientific world than this programme could ever have done.
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    (Original post by theBOON)
    Thanks for the lecture but I consider all the above technology other than science; science as in scientific facts and theories. I sorry who had to type all the above though. I appreciate! :yep:
    You cannot separate science and technology. The world doesn't work like that. They are locked in an endless loop - scientific advances enable technological advances, which in turn enable further scientific progress.

    The scientific side of the space program was inextricably linked to the engineering side. One could not exist without the other, because without the other they have no purpose and/or potency.
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    Ahh thats a shame, we went there last year... we missed the shuttle launch but were there for the landing. What I was surprised about is just how much is dedicated to non human space travel scientific research, the tour guide gave some crazy percentage. I think it is still set to be a major science research facility just minus the human launch aspect. Had a quick look over the budget summary and they want to invest quite a sizeable chunk on upgrading the site. Hopefully it isn't reduced to a visitor complex because if the dedicated visitor centre is anything to go by (after being essentially sold off) its all downhill, because the visitor complex was in worse shape last year than I remember it being on my previous visit in 1998
    That's good to know. I suppose of they're going to start launching an array of commercial rockets from there in the future, infrastructure will have to change/improve.
    The Saturn V rocket is immense. One of the most amazing things I've ever seen :yep:
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    (Original post by Batmaz)
    Space science has contributed a hell of a lot to so many parts of humanity. First there are the NASA spin-offs, like the stuff in babies' nappies that stores the pee? Material that can be heated to thousands of degrees on one side of a block of it and touched with your bare hand on the other?

    Second of all, there's the awe it inspired. America is at the forefront of technology and engineering because its citizens were inspired by the ingenuity of space exploration. It is suspected to be one of the reasons why so many great science is coming out of the USA, because the Apollo astronauts inspired kids at the time to grow up to be scientists. The amount of computing technology in Apollo 11 was about the same as the amount in a modern digital watch. Imagine what we could do now if there were the resources?!

    Third of all, exploration of Mars and further away is limited by the speed of light. The rovers on Mars can only be programmed in advance because of the delay of communication. This can lead to fatal accidents (for the rovers). Methane has been discovered on Mars, possibly from a biological source, and we have no way to detect if it's being emitted from a lifeform or not with our current equipment. A lot of people agree the best way to investigate the mystery is to get people onto the Martian surface.

    Establishing a base on the Moon is the first step to the rest of the universe - the escape velocity on the Moon is so much lower that it would be far more inexpensive and easier to launch missions from there. Without the Moon missions, the rest of manned space flight falls apart. And if mankind end up surviving until a disaster threatens to destroy the earth (e.g. death of the sun, asteroid, gamma ray bursts) then we kinda need to sort out an escape route, right?
    He hasn't entirely cancelled the essence of the programme. Many of the systems and technology will still be tested and improved employing robots. All of which will allow a future administration to easily resume the programme once we have the D$llers. His not even made a radical cut to NASA's overall budget.

    All that technology you speak of will for the most part still be developed. A manned exploration of Mar's has been delayed not cancelled. The reactions on this thread are over the top. Thankfully no one here is running the US economy.
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    (Original post by Aphotic Cosmos)
    You cannot separate science and technology. The world doesn't work like that. They are locked in an endless loop - scientific advances enable technological advances, which in turn enable further scientific progress.

    The scientific side of the space program was inextricably linked to the engineering side. One could not exist without the other, because without the other they have no purpose and/or potency.
    Duh, I was only nitpicking, though you made a very good point. Even though no new scientific advancements were done, since the technology which enable us to advance in science, advanced then we are closer to a new scientific advancement and therefore we made a scientific advancement. You sir beat me at my own game. :p:
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    (Original post by Aphotic Cosmos)
    You cannot separate science and technology. The world doesn't work like that. They are locked in an endless loop - scientific advances enable technological advances, which in turn enable further scientific progress.

    The scientific side of the space program was inextricably linked to the engineering side. One could not exist without the other, because without the other they have no purpose and/or potency.
    His not cut the link between the two his changed the emphasis on something that would serve science rather than the wow factor associated with human space flight.

    The technology will be be developed with an emphasis on robotics and rockets. Rather than the more costly human element. Less PR more substance.
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    (Original post by Student2806)
    That's good to know. I suppose of they're going to start launching an array of commercial rockets from there in the future, infrastructure will have to change/improve.
    The Saturn V rocket is immense. One of the most amazing things I've ever seen :yep:
    Indeed it is remarkable

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    (Original post by Batmaz)
    Space science has contributed a hell of a lot to so many parts of humanity. First there are the NASA spin-offs, like the stuff in babies' nappies that stores the pee? Material that can be heated to thousands of degrees on one side of a block of it and touched with your bare hand on the other?

    Second of all, there's the awe it inspired. America is at the forefront of technology and engineering because its citizens were inspired by the ingenuity of space exploration. It is suspected to be one of the reasons why so many great science is coming out of the USA, because the Apollo astronauts inspired kids at the time to grow up to be scientists. The amount of computing technology in Apollo 11 was about the same as the amount in a modern digital watch. Imagine what we could do now if there were the resources?!

    Third of all, exploration of Mars and further away is limited by the speed of light. The rovers on Mars can only be programmed in advance because of the delay of communication. This can lead to fatal accidents (for the rovers). Methane has been discovered on Mars, possibly from a biological source, and we have no way to detect if it's being emitted from a lifeform or not with our current equipment. A lot of people agree the best way to investigate the mystery is to get people onto the Martian surface.

    Establishing a base on the Moon is the first step to the rest of the universe - the escape velocity on the Moon is so much lower that it would be far more inexpensive and easier to launch missions from there. Without the Moon missions, the rest of manned space flight falls apart. And if mankind end up surviving until a disaster threatens to destroy the earth (e.g. death of the sun, asteroid, gamma ray bursts) then we kinda need to sort out an escape route, right?

    :yep:


    The advanced technologies used and created for space applications will trickle down to consumers in one form or another. To cancel something as momentous as a moonbase...is.....well.....daft.


    Why not just cap bailed out CEOs salaries and bonuses instead.....you know....like he promised he would?:rolleyes:



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    Computer Technology - NASA Spinoffs

    GROUND PROCESSING SCHEDULING SYSTEM - Computer-based scheduling system that uses artificial intelligence to manage thousands of overlapping activities involved in launch preparations of NASA's Space Shuttles. The NASA technology was licensed to a new company which developed commercial applications that provide real-time planning and optimization of manufacturing operations, integrated supply chains, and customer orders.uu

    SEMICONDUCTOR CUBING - NASA initiative led to the Memory Short Stack, a three-dimensional semiconductor package in which dozens of integrated circuits are stacked one atop another to form a cube, offering faster computer processing speeds, higher levels of integration, lower power requirements than conventional chip sets, and dramatic reduction in the size and weight of memory-intensive systems, such as medical imaging devices.

    STRUCTURAL ANALYSIS - This NASA program, originally created for spacecraft design, has been employed in a broad array of non-aerospace applications, such as the automobile industry, manufacture of machine tools, and hardware designs.

    WINDOWS VISUAL NEWS READER (Win Vn) - Software program developed to support payload technical documentation at Kennedy Space Center, allowing the exchange of technical information among a large group of users. WinVn is an enabling technology product that provides countless people with Internet access otherwise beyond their grasp, and it was optimized for organizations that have direct Internet access.

    AIR QUALITY MONITOR - Utilizing a NASA-developed, advanced analytical technique software package, an air quality monitor system was created, capable of separating the various gases in bulk smokestack exhaust streams and determining the amount of individual gases present within the stream for compliance with smokestack emission standards.

    VIRTUAL REALITY - NASA-developed research allows a user, with assistance from advanced technology devices, to figuratively project oneself into a computer-generated environment, matching the user's head motion, and, when coupled with a stereo viewing device and appropriate software, creates a telepresence experience.

    Other spinoffs in this area include: Advanced keyboards, Customer Service Software, Database Management System, Laser Surveying, Aircraft controls, Lightweight Compact Disc, Expert System Software, Microcomputers, and Design Graphics.

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    Consumer/Home/Recreation - NASA Spinoffs

    ENRICHED BABY FOOD - A microalgae-based, vegetable-like oil called Formulaid developed from NASA-sponsored research on long duration space travel, contains two essential fatty acids found in human milk but not in most baby formulas, believed to be important for infants' mental and visual development.

    WATER PURIFICATION SYSTEM - NASA-developed municipal-size water treatment system for developing nations, called the Regenerable Biocide Delivery Unit, uses iodine rather than chlorine to kill bacteria.

    SCRATCH-RESISTANT LENSES - A modified version of a dual ion beam bonding process developed by NASA involves coating the lenses with a film of diamond-like carbon that not only provides scratch resistance, but also decreases surface friction, reducing water spots.

    POOL PURIFICATION - Space technology designed to sterilize water on long-duration spacecraft applied to swimming pool purification led to a system that uses two silver-copper alloy electrodes that generate silver and copper ions when an electric current passes through them to kill bacteria and algae without chemicals.

    RIBBED SWIMSUIT - NASA-developed riblets applied to competition swimsuits resulted in flume testing of 10 to 15 percent faster speeds than any other world class swim-suit due to the small, barely visible grooves that reduce friction and aerodynamic drag by modifying the turbulent airflow next to the skin.

    GOLF BALL AERODYNAMICS - A recently designed golf ball, which has 500 dimples arranged in a pattern of 60 spherical triangles, employs NASA aerodynamics technology to create a more symmetrical ball surface, sustaining initial velocity longer and producing a more stable ball flight for better accuracy and distance.

    PORTABLE COOLERS/WARMERS - Based on a NASA-inspired space cooling system employing thermoelectric technology, the portable cooler/warmer plugs into the cigarette lighters of autos, recreational vehicles, boats, or motel outlets. Utilizes one or two miniaturized modules delivering the cooling power of a 10-pound block of ice and the heating power of up to 125 degrees Fahrenheit.

    SPORTS TRAINING - Space-developed cardio-muscular conditioner helps athletes increase muscular strength and cardiovascular fitness through kinetic exercise.

    ATHLETIC SHOES - Moon Boot material encapsulated in running shoe midsoles improve shock absorption and provides superior stability and motion control.

    Other spinoffs in this area include: Dustbuster, shock-absorbing helmets, home security systems, smoke detectors, flat panel televisions, high-density batteries, trash compactors, food packaging and freeze-dried technology, cool sportswear, sports bras, hair styling appliances, fogless ski goggles, self-adjusting sunglasses, composite golf clubs, hang gliders, art preservation, and quartz crystal timing equipment.

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    Environmental and Resource Management - NASA Spinoffs

    MICROSPHERES - The first commercial products manufactured in orbit are tiny microspheres whose precise dimensions permit their use as reference standards for extremely accurate calibration of instruments in research and industrial laboratories. They are sold for applications in environmental control, medical research, and manufacturing.

    SOLAR ENERGY - NASA-pioneered photovoltaic power system for spacecraft applications was applied to programs to expand terrestrial applications as a viable alternative energy source in areas where no conventional power source exists.

    WEATHER FORECASTING AID - Space Shuttle environmental control technology led to the development of the Barorator which continuously measures the atmospheric pressure and calculates the instantaneous rate of change.

    FOREST MANAGEMENT - A NASA-initiated satellite scanning system monitors and maps forestation by detecting radiation reflected and emitted from trees.

    SENSORS FOR ENVIRONMENTAL CONTROL - NASA development of an instrument for use in space life support research led to commercial development of a system to monitor an industrial process stream to assure that the effluent water's pH level is in compliance with environmental regulations.

    WIND MONITOR - Development of Jimsphere wind measurement balloon for space launches allows for making high resolution measurements of the wind profile for meteorological studies and predictions.

    TELEMETRY SYSTEMS - A spinoff company formed to commercialize NASA high-data-rate telemetry technology, manufactures a high-speed processing system for commercial communications applications.

    PLANT RESEARCH - NASA research on future moon and Mars bases is investigating using plants for food, oxygen, and water to reduce the need for outside supplies. This research utilizes Hydroponics (liquid nutrient solutions) instead of soil to support plant growth and finds applications for vegetable production on Earth.

    FIRE RESISTANT MATERIAL - Materials include chemically-treated fabric for sheets, uniforms for hazardous material handlers, crew's clothing, furniture, interior walls of submersibles and auto racer and refueler suits.

    RADIATION INSULATION - Aluminized polymer film is highly effective radiation barrier for both manned and unmanned spacecraft. Variations of this space-devised material are also used as an energy conservation technique for homes and offices. The materials are placed between wall studs and exterior facing before siding or between roof support and roof sheathing. The radiant barrier blocks 95% of radiant energy. Successful retrofit installations include schools and shrink wrap ovens.

    Other spinoffs in this area include: Whale identification method, environmental analysis, noise abatement, pollution measuring devices, pollution control devices, smokestack monitor, radioactive leak detector, earthquake prediction system, sewage treatment, energy saving air conditioning, and air purification.

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    Health and Medicine - NASA Spinoffs

    DIGITAL IMAGING BREAST BIOPSY SYSTEM - The LORAD Stereo Guide Breast Biopsy system incorporates advanced Charge Coupled Devices (CCDs) as part of a digital camera system. The resulting device images breast tissue more clearly and efficiently. Known as stereotactic large-core needle biopsy, this nonsurgical system developed with Space Telescope Technology is less traumatic and greatly reduces the pain, scarring, radiation exposure, time, and money associated with surgical biopsies.

    BREAST CANCER DETECTION - A solar cell sensor is positioned directly beneath x-ray film, and determines exactly when film has received sufficient radiation and has been exposed to optimum density. Associated electronic equipment then sends a signal to cut off the x-ray source. Reduction of mammography x-ray exposure reduces radiation hazard and doubles the number of patient exams per machine.

    LASER ANGIOPLASTY - Laser angioplasty with a "cool" type of laser, caller an excimer laser, does not damage blood vessel walls and offers precise non-surgical cleanings of clogged arteries with extraordinary precision and fewer complications than in balloon angioplasty.

    ULTRASOUND SKIN DAMAGE ASSESSMENT - Advanced instrument using NASA ultrasound technology enables immediate assessment of burn damage depth, improving patient treatment, and may save lives in serious burn cases.

    HUMAN TISSUE STIMULATOR - Employing NASA satellite technology, the device is implanted in the body to help patient control chronic pain and involuntary motion disorders through electrical stimulation of targeted nerve centers or particular areas of the brain.

    COOL SUIT - Custom-made suit derived from space suits circulates coolant through tubes to lower patient's body/ temperature, producing dramatic improvement of symptoms of multiple sclerosis, cerebral palsy, spina bifida and other conditions.

    PROGRAMMABLE PACEMAKER - Incorporating multiple NASA technologies, the system consists of the implant and a physician's computer console containing the programming and a data printer. Communicates through wireless telemetry signals.

    OCULAR SCREENING - NASA image processing techniques are used to detect eye problems in very young children. An electronic flash from a 35-millimeter camera sends light into the child's eyes, and a photorefractor analyzes the retinal reflexes, producing an image of each eye.

    AUTOMATED URINALYSIS - NASA fluid dynamics studies helped development of system that automatically extracts and transfers sediment from urine sample to an analyzer microscope, replacing the manual centrifuge method.

    MEDICAL GAS ANALYZER - Astronaut-monitoring technology used to develop system to monitor operating rooms for analysis of anesthetic gasses and measurement of oxygen, carbon dioxide, and nitrogen concentrations to assure proper breathing environment for surgery patients.

    VOICE-CONTROLLED WHEELCHAIR - NASA teleoperator and robot technology used to develop chair and manipulator that respond to 35 one-word voice commands utilizing a minicomputer to help patient perform daily tasks, like picking up packages, opening doors, and turning on appliances.

    Other spinoffs in this area include: Arteriosclerosis detection, ultrasound scanners, automatic insulin pump, portable x-ray device, invisible braces, dental arch wire, palate surgery technology, clean room apparel, implantable heart aid, MRI, bone analyzer, and cataract surgery tools.

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    Industrial Productivity/Manufacturing Technology - NASA Spinoffs

    MAGNETIC LIQUIDS - Based on the NASA-developed ferrofluid concept involving synthetic fluids that can be positioned and controlled by magnetic force, the ferrofluidic seal was initially applied in a zero-leakage, nonwearing seal for the rotating shaft of a system used to make semiconductor chips, solving a persistent problem‹contamination due to leaking seals.

    WELDING SENSOR SYSTEM - Laser-based automated welder for industrial use incorporates a laser sensor system originally designed for Space Shuttle External Tank to track the seam where two pieces of metal are to be joined, measures gaps and minute misfits, and automatically corrects the welding torch distance and height.

    MICROLASERS - Based on a concept for optical communications over interplanetary distances, microlasers were developed for the commercial market to transmit communication signals and to drill, cut, or melt materials.

    MAGNETIC BEARING SYSTEM - Bearings developed from Space Shuttle designs support moving machinery without physical contact, permitting motion without friction or wear, and are now used in electric power generation, petroleum refining, machine tool operation, and natural gas pipelines.

    ENGINE LUBRICANT - A NASA-developed plasma-sprayed coating is used to coat valves in a new, ten-inch-long, four-cylinder rotary engine, eliminating the need for lubricating the rotorcam, which has no crankshaft, flywheel, distributor, or water pump.

    INTERACTIVE COMPUTER TRAINING - Known as Interactive Multimedia Training (IMT), originally developed to train astronauts and space operations personnel, now utilized by the commercial sector to train new employees and upgrade worker skills, using a computer system that engages all the senses, including text, video, animation, voice, sounds, and music.

    HIGH-PRESSURE WATERSTRIPPING - Technology developed for preparing Space Shuttle solid rocket boosters first evolved into the U.S. Air Force's Large Aircraft Robotic Paint Stripping (LARPS) system, and now used in the commercial airline industry, where the waterjet processing reduces coating removal time by 90 percent, using only water at ultra-high pressures up to 55,000 psi.

    ADVANCED WELDING TORCH - Based on the Variable Polarity Plasma Arc welding technology, a handheld torch originally developed for joining light alloys used in NASA's External Tank, is now used by major appliance manufacturers for sheet metal welding.

    Other spinoffs in this area include: Gasoline vapor recovery, self-locking fasteners, machine tool software, laser wire stripper, lubricant coating process, wireless communications, engine coatings, and engine design.

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    Public Safety - NASA Spinoffs

    RADIATION HAZARD DETECTOR - NASA technology has made commercially available new, inexpensive, conveniently carried device for protection of people exposed to potentially dangerous levels of microwave radiation. Weighing only 4 ounces and about the size of a cigarette pack, it can be carried in a shirt pocket or clipped to a belt. Unit sounds an audible alarm when microwave radiation reaches a preset level.

    EMERGENCY RESPONSE ROBOT - Remotely-operated robot reduces human injury levels by performing hazardous tasks that would otherwise be handled by humans.

    PERSONAL ALARM SYSTEM - Pen-sized ultrasonic transmitter used by prison guards, teachers, the elderly, and disabled to call for help is based on space telemetry technology. Pen transmits a silent signal to receiver that will display the exact location of the emergency.

    EMERGENCY RESCUE CUTTERS - Lightweight cutters for freeing accident victims from wreckage developed using NASA pyrotechnic technology.

    FIREMAN'S AIR TANKS - Lighter-weight firefighter's air tanks have been developed. New back-pack system weighs only 20 lbs. for 30 minute air supply, 13 lbs. less than conventional firefighting tanks. They are pressurized at 4,500 psia (twice current tanks). A warning device tells the fireman when he or she is running out of air.

    PERSONAL STORM WARNING SYSTEM - Lightning detector gives 30-minute warning to golfers, boaters, homeowners, business owners, and private pilots.

    SELF-RIGHTING LIFE RAFT - Developed for the Apollo program, fully inflates in 12 seconds and protects lives during extremely adverse weather conditions with self-righting and gravity compensation features.

    Other spinoffs in this area include: Storm warning services (Doppler radar), firefighters' radios, lead poison detection, fire detector, flame detector, corrosion protection coating, protective clothing, and robotic hands.

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    Transportation - NASA Spinoffs

    STUDLESS WINTER TIRES - Viking Lander parachute shroud material is adapted and used to manufacture radial tires, increasing the tire material's chainlike molecular structure to five times the strength of steel should increase tread life by 10,000 miles.

    BETTER BRAKES - New, high-temperature composite space materials provide for better brake linings. Applications includes trucks, industrial equipment and passenger cars.

    TOLLBOOTH PURIFICATION - A laminar airflow technique used in NASA clean rooms for contamination-free assembly of space equipment is used at tollbooths on bridges and turnpikes to decrease the toll collector's inhalation of exhaust fumes.

    WEIGHT SAVING TECHNOLOGY - NASA research on composite materials is used to achieve a 30-percent weight reduction in a twin-turbine helicopter, resulting in a substantial increase in aircraft performance.

    IMPROVED AIRCRAFT ENGINE - Multiple NASA developed technological advancements resulted in a cleaner, quieter, more economical commercial aircraft engine known as the high bypass turbofan, featuring a 10-percent reduction in fuel consumption, lower noise levels, and emission reductions of oxides of nitrogen, carbon monoxide, and unburned hydrocarbons.

    ADVANCED LUBRICANTS - An environmental-friendly lubricant designed to support the Space Shuttle Mobile Launcher Platform led to the development of three commercial lubricants for railroad track maintenance, for electric power company corrosion prevention, and as a hydraulic fluid with an oxidation life of 10,000 hours.

    ENERGY STORAGE SYSTEM - The Flywheel Energy Storage system, derived from two NASA-sponsored energy storage studies, is a chemical-free, mechanical battery that harnesses the energy of a rapidly spinning wheel and stores it as electricity with 50 times the capacity of a lead-acid battery, very useful for electric vehicles.

    NEW WING DESIGN FOR CORPORATE JETS - NASA-developed computer programs resulted in an advanced, lighter, more aerodynamically-efficient new wing for Gulfstream business aircraft.

    AIDS TO SCHOOL BUS DESIGN - Manufacturer uses three separate NASA-developed technologies originally developed for aviation and space use in their design and testing of a new school bus chassis. These technologies are a structural analysis computer program infrared stress measurement system, and a ride quality meter system.

    Other spinoffs in this area include: Safer bridges, emission testing, airline wheelchairs, electric car, auto design, methane-powered vehicles, windshear prediction, and aircraft design analysis.
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    (Original post by Saff123)
    And Americans living on earth are supposed to pay financially and in terms of failing infrastructure for your expectations?

    You realise that despite the worst recession and the highest recorded deficit in America, he still plans on increasing NASA's budget. And preparing and testing the technology that will eventually allow human space flight projects like the moon landings to resume once we are in better economic shape.
    I think that it was a long-term project which would have reaped economic rewards, created future growth industries, and allowed for the development of new technology. I believe it is short-sighted to cut this program, but only time will tell - you're right, the NASA budget is still going up. However, will that be enough to compensate for this colossal hold-up?
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    (Original post by theBOON)
    You mean the Kepler mission. Yeah I agree that it would bring more to the scientific world than this programme could ever have done.
    Yup. And we could test for life on Mars on Mars with the right kind of technology. We don't need humans for that. We didn't need humans on the ISS. Their advantages are negligible vie the enormous cost, overruns, and complexity.

    To make the manned missions reality he would have had to make cuts in other areas and given NASA a massive bonus for at least a decade.

    All of which would have gone down badly in the US.
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    You guys should read the actual changes proposed. I think the plan is to essentially focus on developing technologies, instead of systems -- ie, having NASA focus more on research and farm the actual building stuff to private companies. They're actually pouring in over $100 billion in the next 4 years to NASA (according to the NYT)

    Link: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/02/sc...02nasa.html?hp

    Under the proposal, NASA’s budget would rise to $19 billion in the 2011 fiscal year from $18.7 billion. It would also get additional increases in subsequent years, reaching $21 billion in 2015. In total, NASA would receive $100 billion over the next five years.
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    Many of you clearly don't realise that economies all over the world are/have been suffering from a recession. Fiscally, this was the right thing to do. I believe there is a lack of transparency in what this project was going to achieve and besides, there are more pressing issues that the world face today. Why explore other worlds when ours is in jeopardy?
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    (Original post by Liptease)
    His not cut the link between the two his changed the emphasis on something that would serve science rather than the wow factor associated with human space flight.

    The technology will be be developed with an emphasis on robotics and rockets. Rather than the more costly human element. Less PR more substance.
    What isn't substantial about putting and keeping human beings in space? Our very survival depends on it.

    We should be pursuing both robotic and manned spaceflight - it is foolish to eliminate one or the other.
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    MY GOD!! Obama's first good decision.
 
 
 
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