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    If you thought funding those quack homeopathic medicines was a waste of the NHS budget, you’ll absolutely hate this waste of money. Taxpayers are paying for gay people to be “healed” of their homosexuality, even though homosexuality is perfectly normal.

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/al...e-homosexuals/

    Anyone here just thinking of family guy and the gay gene?
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    the comment by "barryobarma" half way down that page nearly made me cry :'(
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    Outrageous, especially considering taxpayers' money is being used.
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    For the love of penis!
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    I read something similar in the Independent yesterday: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...n-1884947.html
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    also that article is implying that the NHS is funding a "cure" on purpose. The NHS funds therapists who may or may not have bigoted views. They can't vet everyone for every single prejudice.
    And to most of the people who commented on that website- f*** you
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    That's not a cure, that's just therapists with their own personal views letting it interfere with their work.
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    it is terrifying to think that pretty much anyone can set themselves up as a therapist...take one vulnerable person and give them a one to one sitation with someone in authority who they believe is trying to help them and no wonder stuff like this happens...
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    I suppose the question is "does it work?"
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    Lol at this comment:

    Normal. Right. Not long until hetero’s are dubbed queer no doubt. Nothing feels more natural than sticking ones Johnson up the Hershey Highway.
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    surely it's optional?
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    (Original post by Hassan285)
    surely it's optional?
    The number of depressed LGBT teens in therapy that would be tempted by such an option is pretty large though. And it's been shown time and time again, such therapies are only destructive, nothing else.
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    Some of the comments on there are truly disgusting.
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    Wow, when you use phrases such as "apparently believes" it lends so much credibility to the story.

    Just another excuse to bash the NHS without any real evidence.
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    (Original post by Gesar)
    The number of depressed LGBT teens in therapy that would be tempted by such an option is pretty large though. And it's been shown time and time again, such therapies are only destructive, nothing else.
    no ones foring them to do it if they wna get treatment they can
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    can they make me gay then? Lol "gay for a week" treatments?

    I assume this is some major brain surgery?

    I mean it can't just be psychiatrists, since we all know that's not going to change someone's sexuality, make em feel crap about it and kill themselves, yeah sure, but actually change it...nope.
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    (Original post by L i b)
    I suppose the question is "does it work?"
    Do you know of studies that indicate that therapy does work?

    Edit: For Lib's attention particularly, and others generally:

    "NARTH, founded in 1992, is composed of psychiatrists, psychologists, certified social workers, professional and pastoral counselors and other behavioral scientists, as well as laymen from a wide variety of backgrounds such as law, religion, and education."


    Here’s a press release from their website, appealing to the media to accurately report on the work of the organisation.

    http://www.narth.com/docs/press14.html

    I haven’t browsed the site, but would urge those who are sufficiently interested in a scientifically validated source to do so as you might learn something you didn’t know before because it wasn't widely publicised by the media.

    I have however found these two links which show the 'successes' of reparative therapy.

    http://www.narth.com/docs/published.html
    http://www.narth.com/docs/published.html

    I'm not altogether sure that this thread belongs in Politics since it is a debate that is more akin to views on the treatment and not on the provision of the treatment.
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    I think there is still political relevance simply because it could be argued that the NHS is paid for by the taxpayer and I would think that, like with homeopathy, many, if not most people who are paying for the NHS do not want their money wasted on something that, in the case of homeopathy, almost certainly doesn't work, and in the case of this "therapy" is ethically dubious.
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    (Original post by The_Octopus)
    I think there is still political relevance simply because it could be argued that the NHS is paid for by the taxpayer and I would think that, like with homeopathy, many, if not most people who are paying for the NHS do not want their money wasted on something that, in the case of homeopathy, almost certainly doesn't work, and in the case of this "therapy" is ethically dubious.
    I think that's quite a fair point. If you don't want to be homosexual, and someone can 'cure' you of it, then fair enough - that's nothing but a good thing, if it makes you happy. I knew a bisexual guy who was far more inclined towards men, but was determined to settle down with a woman because the idea of marriage, children and socialising as a couple appealed to him enormously and he couldn't foresee that working out so long as he pursued chaps.

    But if the NHS were to treat it as a disorder then it would be making a moral judgement on homosexuality. Certainly not its place.
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    (Original post by Teaddict)
    If you thought funding those quack homeopathic medicines was a waste of the NHS budget, you’ll absolutely hate this waste of money. Taxpayers are paying for gay people to be “healed” of their homosexuality, even though homosexuality is perfectly normal.

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/al...e-homosexuals/

    Anyone here just thinking of family guy and the gay gene?
    The majority of people contributing to the blog you link do not consider homosexuality to be 'perfectly normal.'

    Try reading the responses and you'll see why they agree that those who would rather not have homosexual tendencies should be offered treatment on the NHS as much as anyone who has 'conditions' they want to be cured of.

    Whether reparative treatment is possible is not the debate...the funding of is.
 
 
 
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