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    (Original post by Samrout)
    Not really my friend, as I didn't specifically state economic policy, rather you should have applied your intelligence to assume I meant social policies. I am all for a socialist economy.

    what what
    You altered my quote to read "Im gay"
    That is pathetic.

    (Original post by Bobifier)
    Lovely, but I'm not sure this is the place to bring it up...
    You are just as bad as the above loser.

    (Original post by humz2)
    I despise terrorists and rapists actually
    Good :P

    Looking at your sig, you can see why people may think you're a racist _______

    edit: sorry I thought you were OP...i was referring to OP's sig
    Mistakes happen
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    (Original post by Good Apollo)
    The number of ad homs in this thread is amusing. Although my views on immigration more or less align with the BNP (although I will never vote for them, for separate reasons), I do get the feeling that the opposition to restricted-immigration in this thread is woefully lacking in logical rebuttles to the BNP's arguments.
    Can you provide evidence that the costs of immigration are greater than the benefits?
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    This is BS. It's all good and pretty for the BNP to talk about issues such as immigration, 'Islamification', but when it comes to economic policy they are absolutely clueless.
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    :facepalm: Not standing a candidate will make it easier for Griffin the win.

    At present if a tory stood then the white working class vote be divided between Labour, the BNP and the Tories (who are starting to migrate to the Tories). This will hurt the BNP because their only support base will be very much divided three ways.


    However if the Tories don't stand then it'll be divided 2 ways. Makes a BNP victory easier
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    (Original post by adamrules247)
    :facepalm: Not standing a candidate will make it easier for Griffin the win.

    At present if a tory stood then the white working class vote be divided between Labour, the BNP and the Tories (who are starting to migrate to the Tories). This will hurt the BNP because their only support base will be very much divided three ways.


    However if the Tories don't stand then it'll be divided 2 ways. Makes a BNP victory easier
    Yeah that's what I thought as well. Not like BNP supportes are going to vote labour is it? Especially Margaret ******* Hodge :rofl:
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    do you know what i find disgusting about those who seriously oppose the BNP...

    You don't want 'racist' (the level of racism present is also debatable too) people in parliament but you are quite happy backing parties who love to line their own pockets with your money. Besides, if we assume that nick griffin is polishing up his party to make it more appealing, can you same that this isn't true for any other political party out there?


    The problem is the BNP are a very inexperienced and attract the far right population of the UK. Extremists exist in the BNP due to their nature of tackling potentially racist issues. At the end of the day Nick Griffin is genuine in that he stands for the british people, I don't know who the hell our current government stands for these days, what with lining their pockets with my money, or shipping a load of my money over to Haiti (oh and yes i did VOLUNTARILY donate money too), or declaring war in the middle east when we frankly had no business over there (well not counting the oil like :P: ).


    I tell you what, if the BNP were to halt immigration but ALLOW current british citizens (black/white) to retain their citizenship and actually tighten up control on illegal residents, then they would stand a really good chance.

    We all have to place an element of trust in the party we choose, and if the BNP were given a chance i'm sure that they wouldn't be as racist as people make them out. Of course, the counterargument is simply 'but daytona01 you are delusional' but in retrospect weren't you when you voted for them greedy ***** who claimed your taxpayer money illegally? All governments **** up, and in all honesty if you don't give the BNP a chance to **** up then YOUR the ones being brainwashed.


    I haven't ever voted for the BNP by the way, but unfortunately nobody takes a constructively equal stance when it comes to the BNP. They obviously have good points, and the allegations of racism aren't completely accurate (don't get me wrong they have had incidents in the past), but they haven't been given the chance to '**** up' like the other main parties have.
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    (Original post by PGtips92)
    Can you provide evidence that the costs of immigration are greater than the benefits?
    Of course. I'm not going to sit here and write you an essay (that will have to wait for a later thread), but here a few things to think about:

    -Mass immigration is by definition a contradiction. People's reason for coming to the UK from elsewhere is because the UK has some desirable trait. This trait is present because of the current behaviour of the British population. By rapidly replacing and changing the constituents of the population, you actually end up destroying what made the country attractive in the first place (Britain becomes "less British). Examples of this include the introduction of Sharia courts after the influx of Muslims into the country - a key example of womens and homosexuals legal rights being removed.

    -The economic benefits of immigration are far outweighed by the negative social and cultural issues arising from immigration, look at this: http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/4274 to get an example. This country isn't a corporation whose only concern is financial gain, other aspects of our society are far more worth conserving.

    Plus about 10 other reasons which I won't type for now.
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    (Original post by Kickflip)
    Racism is hating other races, the BNP is about looking after their own race first, there is a difference.
    And what race would that be?

    I agree that this whole conspiracy against the BNP is completely out of line, but that doesn't make the BNP any more correct in their policies.
    It is wholly ignorant to think the total exclusion of non-white/non-British people would solve the problem of immigration, and an excuse for people who are too lazy/stupid to make their own way in life. Immigrants are extremely important for this country, and the solution lies in bi-lateral integration (at least partial adoption of British culture/traditions on their part, acceptance of theirs on our part).

    If you had your job taken/can't find a job, that is no-one's fault but your own. So man up and stop trying to stir up a reaction.
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    Would be funny if this backfires, ******* airbrushed Cameron
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    (Original post by Moe Lester)
    Yeah that's what I thought as well. Not like BNP supportes are going to vote labour is it? Especially Margaret ******* Hodge :rofl:
    Yeah I agree. Last time the Tories stood they got just under 5,000 votes. Now if half of those go to the BNP they'll score 7,500, now lets say 15% of the Labour vote goes to the BNP then they get another 2,000votes. 9,500. Now lets say Labour lose another few thousand votes to the Lib Dems, Greens, etc. Oh look it's Nick Griffin MP.
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    This is 100% ********.
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    thread fails

    of course mainstream parties would rather have the opposition rather than BNP in parliament as BNP in parliament makes UK look bad and article has no source and is probably false like all the other articles citing anonymous sources
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    (Original post by Kickflip)
    Racism is hating other races, the BNP is about looking after their own race first
    Why is that a particularly good way of running a country, especially in London, why would you knowingly elect somebody who would ignore large parts of the electorate on the basis of colour?
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    (Original post by Kickflip)
    A Labour-Tory pact to keep BNP leader Nick Griffin out of Parliament was floated by David Cameron.

    The Standard has learned that the Conservatives considered a radical plan to help arts minister Magaret Hodge fend of the challenge from Mr Griffin in Barking.

    Under the proposal, the Tories would have agreed not to put up a candidate against Mrs Hodge in the hope of giving her a better chance of defeating the far-Right party leader at the general election.

    http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standa...wn-over-bnp.do

    Believe your eyes, believe your ears: The LibLabCon - the one party with three names. People complain nothing changes whoever they vote for and that the politicians are all the same. Would you like your Internationalism in Blue, would you like it in Red, Yellow, Green or would you rather a British government put British people first? They've been giving our money and our birthright away for fifty years, and it's clear they have not intention of stopping unless we stop beliving their lies and find the courage to stop them, by voting them out!
    I'm voting BNP this year, and this is the first time I've ever voted
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    You're one of those paranoid bnp supporter, please go seek some help
    Stop spauting baseless accusations and lies, go play with nick griffin.
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    (Original post by hunty91)
    And what race would that be?

    I agree that this whole conspiracy against the BNP is completely out of line, but that doesn't make the BNP any more correct in their policies.
    It is wholly ignorant to think the total exclusion of non-white/non-British people would solve the problem of immigration, and an excuse for people who are too lazy/stupid to make their own way in life. Immigrants are extremely important for this country, and the solution lies in bi-lateral integration (at least partial adoption of British culture/traditions on their part, acceptance of theirs on our part).

    If you had your job taken/can't find a job, that is no-one's fault but your own. So man up and stop trying to stir up a reaction.
    This is NOT a conspiracy, it's a fact that bnp consist of racially motivated members who use violence against innocent people. Their racist expressions further elevates tension among different cultures, which is unacceptable in the 21st century.
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    (Original post by Kiwiguy)
    That is basically their support base, working class whites scattered around up north.
    Not so. Huh.

    It's not only the north. And isn't it those that don't work (or do have a job, but which is of such a low standard it's not really classed as a ''proper'' job) and live off benefits - those on council estates?

    Haha.
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    (Original post by Teaddict)
    I survived my mother's abortion



    mistakes happen
    I know you despise quote tampering, but i just couldn't help myself.

    The fact of the matter is you assumed that I meant economic policies, when in fact I meant social policies. You bent my quote, and now you are complaining that I am pathetic. Well I may be slightly immature for my age come evening time when my blood sugar is rather high, but you Sir are a doucher, and although I respect your argumentative qualities, I don't respect your political views, nor your willingness to misquote me for a jolly chuckle and whatnot. pip pip :hump:
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    (Original post by Kickflip)
    A Labour-Tory pact to keep BNP leader Nick Griffin out of Parliament was floated by David Cameron.

    The Standard has learned that the Conservatives considered a radical plan to help arts minister Magaret Hodge fend of the challenge from Mr Griffin in Barking.

    Under the proposal, the Tories would have agreed not to put up a candidate against Mrs Hodge in the hope of giving her a better chance of defeating the far-Right party leader at the general election.

    http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standa...wn-over-bnp.do

    Believe your eyes, believe your ears: The LibLabCon - the one party with three names. People complain nothing changes whoever they vote for and that the politicians are all the same. Would you like your Internationalism in Blue, would you like it in Red, Yellow, Green or would you rather a British government put British people first? They've been giving our money and our birthright away for fifty years, and it's clear they have not intention of stopping unless we stop beliving their lies and find the courage to stop them, by voting them out!


    if only the germans had had this attitude pre-1933.....
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    (Original post by ajgaj)
    only a BNP guy would be dumb enough to start a thread like this, knowing that they are going to just make themselves look like complete cocks.

    btw Nick Griffin said that he wont deport any immigrants if he gets any power, so if this country is in a huge mess right now because of immigrants, then it isnt going to get any better if you ever gain any power.

    If you dont like whats happened to this country then get out, because it aint changing any time soon mate!

    lol actually its a girl.......i just think kickflip needs a good seeing to tbh
 
 
 
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