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    (Original post by TShadow383)
    So, if you don't object to the porn in Nuts etc, what do you object to? The articles? The TV Guide? Games reviews?
    Pornography is different because it's not part of the mainstream culture. I think it still shows women as sex objects but people are more discrete about it. When nearly naked women are placed alongside items such as TV guides, it normalises the objectification of women.
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    I feel like the only girl here who disagrees with the feminists banning these magazines.
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    I disagree with the feminist's arguments on principle, however I am surprised that anyone at LSE actually buys that trash.
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    (Original post by ArtGoblin)
    Pornography is different because it's not part of the mainstream culture. I think it still shows women as sex objects but people are more discrete about it. When nearly naked women are placed alongside items such as TV guides, it normalises the objectification of women.
    Isn't porn also perfectly capable of showing men as sex objects?
    You know why it doesn't bother me? Because nobody is stupid enough to think that real life is like that.

    And it's not just women who are used to sell products through sex appeal - a single flick through any womens magazine would tell you that. I believe one of Cosmo's sections is called "Torso of the week" - the girls in my sixth form tore about a hundred of them out and wallpapered one side of our common room, in the end we had the six pack wall and the tits wall. Theirs had more pictures :p:

    Interesting how that doesn't seem to bother you at all...
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    I say fine, let the lad mags be published, but then let women breastfeed in public.
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    (Original post by Walkin'Butterfly)
    I say fine, let the lad mags be published, but then let women breastfeed in public.
    I am honestly unsure as to why it is still illegal for women to breastfeed in public in this day and age.
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    (Original post by Jxhn)
    Have you ever seen the sales figures for Cosmopolitan? etc?
    I said girls I know :dontknow: Never read the Cosmopolitan so don't know if its the girls' version of lad mags.
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    Nice to see feminists have their priorities sorted..as Aeolus said Instead of tackling real issues like the burka or forced marriage, marital rape and abuse etc.. They are instead trying to ban saucy lads mags because apparently they over sexualise women which contributes to sexaul assault. To be honest i think the onus should be more on the mentally disturbed men who can't control themselves. As for airburshing models and affecting young girls, i think they should start at the womens mags full of dieting tips and size zero.

    Maybe they will call for all women to be dressed head to toe next so they definitely wont tempt men.
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    (Original post by TShadow383)
    So, if you don't object to the porn in Nuts etc, what do you object to? The articles? The TV Guide? Games reviews?
    ...What?
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    (Original post by Moe Lester)
    Nice to see feminists have their priorities sorted..as Aeolus said Instead of tackling real issues like the burka or forced marriage, marital rape and abuse etc.. They are instead trying to ban saucy lads mags because apparently they over sexualise women which contributes to sexaul assault. To be honest i think the onus should be more on the mentally disturbed men who can't control themselves. As for airburshing models and affecting young girls, i think they should start at the womens mags full of dieting tips and size zero.

    Maybe they will call for all women to be dressed head to toe next so they definitely wont tempt men.
    What do you expect a university soc. to do about forced marriage? I'm sure their concerns go further than this issue, but at least they're doing something practical and relevant instead of saying 'oh, forced marriage, so that sucks doesn't it? shall we do a... petition or something?' It's like saying the school council representative at primary school should be tackling the economic crisis instead of school dinners. Working on a small scale is as valuable as working on a large scale.
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    (Original post by Smack)
    I am honestly unsure as to why it is still illegal for women to breastfeed in public in this day and age.
    ..Wow, is it?
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    (Original post by missygeorgia)
    ..Wow, is it?
    According to Walkin'Butterfly it is. Not something I've researched, but I am sure I can recall some controversy over this a while ago.
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    It most certainly isn't illegal to breastfeed in public here in the UK. In fact breastfeeding mothers are protected under discrimination laws.
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    (Original post by Smack)
    I am honestly unsure as to why it is still illegal for women to breastfeed in public in this day and age.
    Well, it's not illegal, but women who do it are shunned and looked down upon. What I mean is, if society thinks its ok to have bare breasts in a national newspaper, then let women use their breasts for their real purpose, without persecution.
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    Because of this, and just because of this, I won't be choosing LSE as my insurance choice. :mad:
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    lol @ how ******* stupid the threadstarter is

    have you ever even read a copy of the sun?

    1. there's a page 3 and that's it. it's not a porn mag.
    2. the page 3 girls are being paid for their photos, and are not being forced into anything - the glamour models that do page 3 are ****s that LOVE doing it
    3. apart from page 3 , how does the sun 'portray women as passive sex objects' ?? i don't understand?? and even then, how does page 3 have anything to do with any kind of "heteronormative relationships" it's some slosh with her tits out. doesn't say anything about sex. what's wrong with looking at human bodies or do you think everybody should go round in burqas?
    4. the sun is the most read newspaper in the uk, so clearly most ppl don't agree with you. but then again you don't read it and probably do'nt know anyone who does and you think everybody who doesn't read the financial times is scum.
    5. why does it bother you if i read it? if you don't like it don't read it. same way if you don't like the food on my plate then you don't have to eat it. live your ******* life.

    why don't you spend your time giving money to charity or suttin?

    pathetic
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    (Original post by Aeolus)
    At the end of the day. What two consenting individuals decide to do or sell to other consenting individuals should not be affected by you being offended.
    It is far more complex than one individual being offended. The ubiquity of 'lads mags' casts aspersions on society's values and attitudes towards women in general. Widespread availability of porn coarsens and brutalises society; there must be boundaries in place to maintain the equality and compassion within society, and this is undermined by the mainstreaming and normalisation of porn and 'lads mags'.
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    (Original post by Elipsis)
    Women don't need lads mags to sexualise or objectify them, and that is if we even agree that women are indeed any more sexualised or objectified by men. Indeed the objectification of women in society is done largely by women; who in our free society choose what they wear and how they act. The men who behave like women; i.e. tight clothes, work out a lot, get fake tans etc. get just as much sexualisation and objectification as women do. I would say that the entire argument of feminists in this thread has been based on huge falty leaps of logic and looking at the situation from a very biased vantage point.
    No it isn't. The objectification and sexualisation of women occurs through the ubiquity and normalisation of porn and 'lads mags' which contribute to the notion that women exist solely as sex objects for the gratification of men. These magazines and the porn industry in general, are mostly run by men. These values have filtered down into mainstream society, and thus women are encouraged to wear very little clothing etc.
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    Would be nice if more attention was paid to the severe abuse of women in other parts of the world and less to horny teenagers and fifty year olds.
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    (Original post by Olivia_Lightbulb)
    No it isn't. The objectification and sexualisation of women occurs through the ubiquity and normalisation of porn and 'lads mags' which contribute to the notion that women exist solely as sex objects for the gratification of men. These magazines and the porn industry in general, are mostly run by men. These values have filtered down into mainstream society, and thus women are encouraged to wear very little clothing etc.
    If that sort of dressing and sexualisation was male led why didn't it happen before the 60s? When men had control they hated that sort of behaviour. In countries where they still hold full power they still hate it. Look at all girls schools; they are much more fashion orientated, have higher incidences of eating disorders, and generally objectify and sexualise themselves at a much younger age. First and foremost magazines and the porn industry need women who are willing to use their sexuality to manipulate men into handing over their cash, without them it just doesn't work. At the end of the day it is the female that uses her sexuality to have the choice of partners, not the men. Like I said, any woman can get laid at almost any time. Men can't. Therefore women are the picky judgemental sexualising ones. I believe that although women are more sexualised it benefits more than it harms them; it isn't a case of being useful vs sexualised; they can be useful and sexualised giving them the best of both worlds, meaning women have a far wider amount of activities at their disposal to make it to the top.
 
 
 
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