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    So i'm seriously reconsidering changing from dentistry and pursuing a more maths/economics based degree at a top uni, in order to have a higher chance of getting into FO in IB. (would this be of any real advantage?)

    I have offers from Barts and KCL for dentistry and I'm in y13. so I've still got a chance to change my career path - but is it actually any real advantage of changing course?
    I reckon dentistry at these unis are quite respectable but then again I may be wrong.


    if anyone has any knowledge of people doing this and if they succeeded, I'd appreciate it.
    I don't mind working hard for it if its realistically possible, but if its not, then that's my issue...

    thanks guys.
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    (Original post by fiddizle)
    So i'm seriously reconsidering changing from dentistry and pursuing a more maths/economics based degree at a top uni, in order to have a higher chance of getting into FO in IB. (would this be of any real advantage?)

    I have offers from Barts and KCL for dentistry and I'm in y13. so I've still got a chance to change my career path - but is it actually any real advantage of changing course?
    I reckon dentistry at these unis are quite respectable but then again I may be wrong.


    if anyone has any knowledge of people doing this and if they succeeded, I'd appreciate it.
    I don't mind working hard for it if its realistically possible, but if its not, then that's my issue...

    thanks guys.
    Clearly having a maths/econs background is an advantage. But as many people have already said on many threads, getting into IB depends upon a number of things. If you get a good degree (minimum 2.1) from a respectable uni and then have a number of other valuable things on your CV then yes you can get in.

    If you take the dentistry route, make sure you do lots of extra-curricular's, get involved in a lot of finance/econs related stuff to show your interest. Getting spring weeks/summer internships will be very very useful also.

    To be honest, a large percentage of people who get into IB come from the typical Oxbridge, LSE, Imperial, UCL, Warwick but there is always opportunities for anyone who can demonstrate their ability and desire to succeed in the industry.
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    (Original post by fiddizle)
    So i'm seriously reconsidering changing from dentistry and pursuing a more maths/economics based degree at a top uni, in order to have a higher chance of getting into FO in IB. (would this be of any real advantage?)

    I have offers from Barts and KCL for dentistry and I'm in y13. so I've still got a chance to change my career path - but is it actually any real advantage of changing course?
    I reckon dentistry at these unis are quite respectable but then again I may be wrong.


    if anyone has any knowledge of people doing this and if they succeeded, I'd appreciate it.
    I don't mind working hard for it if its realistically possible, but if its not, then that's my issue...

    thanks guys.
    Why on earth would you study Dentistry if you want to be a Banker?

    I'm pretty sure if I were recruiting I'd bin a CV that had Dentistry as its degree subject, if anything it shows that you have awful decision making ability.
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    If you really want to be a banker you should definitely change your degree... I understand those universities are good for dentistry but they are NOT targeted for finance.
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    thanks UCL90, i'm thinking along those lines - doing a summer internship, seeing how that goes, and try to learn as much as I can about IB so I can get myself a starting block to work from.
    i'm sure there are other threads about this kind of thing - except not exactly this situation, because it seems its the 'top' med students that have opted for a change, ie. oxbridge medics.

    oxbridge don't do dentistry however, though dentistry at kcl is arguably the best in the UK, from what i've heard, so maybe this will be taken into account? i don't know..

    thanks loggins for your input - i was worried i that may happen which is why I considered getting as much experience as possible to prevent such a thing - would that then change your mind?
    Afterall, i'm under the impression IB is entered by people of all sorts of degree backgrounds, so surely this won't really disadvantage me?

    onthecoast - your likely to be right, which is why im considering changing degree and going to a 'higher' university.

    whats more, if it didn't work out in the end - at least i have the dental route to fall back on? maybe I'm wrong but surely this is an advantage from where i'm sitting?

    thanks for the input guys.
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    (Original post by fiddizle)
    thanks UCL90, i'm thinking along those lines - doing a summer internship, seeing how that goes, and try to learn as much as I can about IB so I can get myself a starting block to work from.
    i'm sure there are other threads about this kind of thing - except not exactly this situation, because it seems its the 'top' med students that have opted for a change, ie. oxbridge medics.

    oxbridge don't do dentistry however, though dentistry at kcl is arguably the best in the UK, from what i've heard, so maybe this will be taken into account? i don't know..

    thanks loggins for your input - i was worried i that may happen which is why I considered getting as much experience as possible to prevent such a thing - would that then change your mind?
    Afterall, i'm under the impression IB is entered by people of all sorts of degree backgrounds, so surely this won't really disadvantage me?

    onthecoast - your likely to be right, which is why im considering changing degree and going to a 'higher' university.

    whats more, if it didn't work out in the end - at least i have the dental route to fall back on? maybe I'm wrong but surely this is an advantage from where i'm sitting?

    thanks for the input guys.
    The other guys make important points. Its not only your degree but the uni. Whether or not it is a target uni. E.g. economics at Leeds uni would not be perceived by banks as highly as anthropology at Cambridge (generally). If you have the chance to change and you are really keen to go into IB, i think you should consider changing A) because it will help get into IB, B) if you want to do IB then surely you must have an interest in finance,econs,maths,stats etc. so doing a degree in one of these would suit your interests.
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    (Original post by UCL90)
    The other guys make important points. Its not only your degree but the uni. Whether or not it is a target uni. E.g. economics at Leeds uni would not be perceived by banks as highly as anthropology at Cambridge (generally). If you have the chance to change and you are really keen to go into IB, i think you should consider changing A) because it will help get into IB, B) if you want to do IB then surely you must have an interest in finance,econs,maths,stats etc. so doing a degree in one of these would suit your interests.
    Lool, I am guessing you saw the other thread? :rofl: :rofl: :lol:
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    (Original post by fiddizle)
    thanks UCL90, i'm thinking along those lines - doing a summer internship, seeing how that goes, and try to learn as much as I can about IB so I can get myself a starting block to work from.
    i'm sure there are other threads about this kind of thing - except not exactly this situation, because it seems its the 'top' med students that have opted for a change, ie. oxbridge medics.

    oxbridge don't do dentistry however, though dentistry at kcl is arguably the best in the UK, from what i've heard, so maybe this will be taken into account? i don't know..

    thanks loggins for your input - i was worried i that may happen which is why I considered getting as much experience as possible to prevent such a thing - would that then change your mind?
    Afterall, i'm under the impression IB is entered by people of all sorts of degree backgrounds, so surely this won't really disadvantage me?

    onthecoast - your likely to be right, which is why im considering changing degree and going to a 'higher' university.

    whats more, if it didn't work out in the end - at least i have the dental route to fall back on? maybe I'm wrong but surely this is an advantage from where i'm sitting?

    thanks for the input guys.
    I agree. It depends where your dentistry offer is from? If it is KCL then it is sufficiently reputable for investment banking. But you have to try hard on the extracurriculars. It would help if you have maths or economics at A-level.
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    (Original post by Comp_Genius)
    I agree. It depends where your dentistry offer is from? If it is KCL then it is sufficiently reputable for investment banking. But you have to try hard on the extracurriculars. It would help if you have maths or economics at A-level.

    i'm glad you mentioned this because it is kcl, and i believe i have some good ECs, whether they are what people are looking for i'm not sure, eg. DoE up to gold, sports captain etc. i'm also doing maths A level

    though you mention KCL, others seem to think even that is not realistically good enough, so i'm still quite unsure. thanks though
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    (Original post by fiddizle)
    i'm glad you mentioned this because it is kcl, and i believe i have some good ECs, whether they are what people are looking for i'm not sure, eg. DoE up to gold, sports captain etc. i'm also doing maths A level

    though you mention KCL, others seem to think even that is not realistically good enough, so i'm still quite unsure. thanks though
    It depends on how much security is important to you. Remember that you can be laid off in finance, but you'll always need dentists and doctors.

    Your ECs sound great. KCL isn't the best on investment banks' list, unless there is a dental school at Imperial, LSE or UCL, Kings is your best bet.
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    Why would you want to move to banking from dentistry??? dentists make $$$$$$$$$ unless dentists in the U.K. are poor.....
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    (Original post by loggins)
    Why on earth would you study Dentistry if you want to be a Banker?

    I'm pretty sure if I were recruiting I'd bin a CV that had Dentistry as its degree subject, if anything it shows that you have awful decision making ability.
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    (Original post by Comp_Genius)
    It depends on how much security is important to you. Remember that you can be laid off in finance, but you'll always need dentists and doctors.

    Your ECs sound great. KCL isn't the best on investment banks' list, unless there is a dental school at Imperial, LSE or UCL, Kings is your best bet.
    since the course is 5 years long, does that mean i'll have to apply later than others doing 3 year degrees, or can i apply in eg. 3rd year for jobs?


    if its the full 5 years, then i reckon its safe to assume reapplying next year for economics would still be a quicker route as its only 3 years.
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    Dude if I were you, and was serious about banking, then I'd take a gap year, either go travelling, or apply for a gap year scheme at a Big 4 or a bank, and then get on to a good Econ/Business degree. You should probably make your mind up now, because Dentistry is such a specialist route to take...

    Either that or start your degree, reapply and drop out of Dentistry asap.
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    (Original post by fiddizle)
    since the course is 5 years long, does that mean i'll have to apply later than others doing 3 year degrees, or can i apply in eg. 3rd year for jobs?


    if its the full 5 years, then i reckon its safe to assume reapplying next year for economics would still be a quicker route as its only 3 years.
    I think you can still apply for spring programs in the first year and third year. You can only apply to summer internships in your penultimate, i.e. 4th year. But if you do an intercalated degree you can also apply for the summer scheme the year before that.

    There are arguments both sides. If i were in your position I would do the dentistry degree. There is no guarantee in finance that you will be doing IBD at an investment bank, so if that doesn't fall through you need backup options.
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    [QUOTE=fiddizle]So i'm seriously reconsidering changing from dentistry and pursuing a more maths/economics based degree at a top uni, in order to have a higher chance of getting into FO in IB. (would this be of any real advantage?)

    HAHAHA

    I am currently a 3rd year dental student at Bristol and am trying to get into IB - this rings so many bells its not even funny

    I think that Dentistry would be a great degree to go into now, it is a safe respectable job; unfortunately it isn't banking. It doesn't even compare.

    so I feel your pains

    Anyone can break into banking, you just gotta have a kick ass spin on your story and why you want to transfer

    It is hard to balance as they are two very demanding industries - to be honest it is way harder than entering through the traditional route. But not unheard of

    If you think you have the balls to enter dentistry - a 5 yr full time, and i mean full time! IB is probably the hardest industry to break into - and it will most likely remain so with our economy going down the pan.

    I am in a good position but that is only because I have surrounded myself with friends who are now graduating and going into banks now, so i have garnered a very good knowledge of the industry and what it entails. If it is your dream - don't do dentistry, saying that, if you want a job to fall back on when your get made redundant from a bulge bracket then do it.

    Pay is similar until you get high up in a bank. but the hours you will work will be mental in comparison

    My advice - change course now, or if you think you have the balls to juggle both - good luck but it will not be easy, trust me, I am doing it now...
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    I think i'll make life harder for myself by sticking with dentistry but trying for IB, after building up a portfolio of work exp etc relevant to IB and try my luck there,

    that way I can always fall back on dentistry if it doesn't work out.
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    You must not have read Taleb's "Fooled by Randomness" -- otherwise you would have known that the dentist is rich, very rich...
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    (Original post by fiddizle)
    So i'm seriously reconsidering changing from dentistry and pursuing a more maths/economics based degree at a top uni, in order to have a higher chance of getting into FO in IB. (would this be of any real advantage?)

    HAHAHA

    I am currently a 3rd year dental student at Bristol and am trying to get into IB - this rings so many bells its not even funny

    I think that Dentistry would be a great degree to go into now, it is a safe respectable job; unfortunately it isn't banking. It doesn't even compare.

    so I feel your pains

    Anyone can break into banking, you just gotta have a kick ass spin on your story and why you want to transfer

    It is hard to balance as they are two very demanding industries - to be honest it is way harder than entering through the traditional route. But not unheard of

    If you think you have the balls to enter dentistry - a 5 yr full time, and i mean full time! IB is probably the hardest industry to break into - and it will most likely remain so with our economy going down the pan.

    I am in a good position but that is only because I have surrounded myself with friends who are now graduating and going into banks now, so i have garnered a very good knowledge of the industry and what it entails. If it is your dream - don't do dentistry, saying that, if you want a job to fall back on when your get made redundant from a bulge bracket then do it.

    Pay is similar until you get high up in a bank. but the hours you will work will be mental in comparison

    My advice - change course now, or if you think you have the balls to juggle both - good luck but it will not be easy, trust me, I am doing it now...
    lol

    jeez....there is an abundance of bloody dentists who want to go in to IB...must be something to do with being money motivated to some extent.

    i've pm'd fdizzle, but thought i'd add here.

    I'm a second year dental student, and considering my options. i have some work experience at Evo lined up through a family contact and will see how that goes. am aiming to do an AS in maths and apply to a few uni courses come september probably ppe or similar as have strong interest there. what annoys me is everyone sees dentistry as the vocational subject it is and forgets that dentists essentially have the same skills as medics, I bet makign the switch from medicine to iB is nowhere near as hard yet both require the same analytical thinking, logic, stress, etc....

    out of interest how are you thinking about switching??? i take it you are sticking with the 5 years and then trying?

    cheers. (quite surreal thread)
 
 
 
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