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    (Original post by Cesare Borgia)
    Disregarding that the fact that English is the national language, good one.

    Actually, Welsh and Scots Gaelic can be used to demonstrate linguistic competence when applying for citizenship, as well as English - don't be complacent

    Edit: furthermore, English is not, de dure, the UK's official language
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    (Original post by az1992)
    especially as i cannot beleive that nearly 55 million people are descended directly from a couple of thousand or less people.
    It doesn't mean they're descended from only those people.
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    Multiculturalism is such a joke. In my friendship group there's muslims, hassadic Jews, Christians and atheists - from Israel, Pakistan, Uganda, South Africa, Australia etc. And despite our cultural differences we all want the same things, meaning it's not really multicultural, as we are all living the student culture.
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    (Original post by sunpro)
    Why should I be made to feel like a foreigner in my own country? It's this kind of attitude that is sending England down the crapper.
    It's not 'your' country, dear.
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    OP sucks their dads nuts. End thread/
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    I used to thing that muliculturalism is romantic, like you feel like you're on holiday 24/7 because everyone speaks a different language.
    BUT the 'melting pot' idea is not realistic, it's so bloody annoying that immigrants come here and stick to their own groups, thus making it impossible to socialise.
    And i'm polish myself.
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    (Original post by nolongerhearthemusic)
    It doesn't mean they're descended from only those people.
    yes well then their not indigenous. You would not call the great grandson of an aborigine an indigenous australian if the rest of his family were from somewhere else?
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    (Original post by az1992)
    yes well then their not indigenous. You would not call the great grandson of an aborigine an indigenous australian if the rest of his family were from somewhere else?
    Well, they'd be part indigenous. Is anyone who we'd call "indigenous" or "native" completely 100% of that one ethnicity?
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    (Original post by Barden)
    Actually, Welsh and Scots Gaelic can be used to demonstrate linguistic competence when applying for citizenship, as well as English - don't be complacent

    Edit: furthermore, English is not, de dure, the UK's official language
    Welsh can **** off and so can Scots Gaelic, they're pathetic. In England, nay the UK, you speak English, if I were to move to Poland I would have the decency to learn Polish, to India; Indian and so on. It really isn't hard to figure that one out.
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    (Original post by Cesare Borgia)
    Welsh can **** off and so can Scots Gaelic, they're pathetic. In England, nay the UK, you speak English, if I were to move to Poland I would have the decency to learn Polish, to India; Indian and so on. It really isn't hard to figure that one out.
    To be honest, parts of Yorkshire, Newcastle and Scotland barely speak English; how do you (you meaning one, not you personally) expect a foreign person to understand each different dialect when quite a few people within the country still don't, haha.
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    (Original post by Cesare Borgia)
    Welsh can **** off and so can Scots Gaelic, they're pathetic. In England, nay the UK, you speak English, if I were to move to Poland I would have the decency to learn Polish, to India; Indian and so on. It really isn't hard to figure that one out.

    come to north wales and say that :rofl:


    i hope u can run fast
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    (Original post by Cesare Borgia)
    Welsh can **** off and so can Scots Gaelic, they're pathetic.
    but people speak them. if you were to move to an area that speaks one of those, would you learn it? if not then why?

    also Doodahdoo's point. the English language in the UK is barely one language at all. when i lived on the edge of the Forest of Dean i could drive ten minutes down the road and actually struggle to understand some people.
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    (Original post by az1992)
    blonde moment there darling,

    there is a difference between granting an immigrant a visa to work here and giving them british nationality. You think an Asian family just turns up and are given british papers? No, infact there is criteria that must be met before one can be given british nationailty, amongst this is having stayed here for a certain amount of time and knowing the language to a decent level.
    Call centre workers aren't here on a work permit as you can only get a permit if you're doing a skilled job.
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    (Original post by electriic_ink)
    Call centre workers aren't here on a work permit as you can only get a permit if you're doing a skilled job.
    well i think its a safe bet that they arent british nationals either
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    (Original post by sunpro)
    A couple of years ago, I worked at the AA call centre between finishing A-levels and starting university (I'm 20 now). It was a fairly easy job, and paid £7 an hour for nearly 40 hours a week, and there was the chance to do work like 'Rapid Response' where you came in at their beckon call and got paid £27 an hour. Fair enough, I thought, and just worked there as a way to save money for uni (it saved me about £2,000 over 12 weeks).

    The problem was that, during my training, I was literally the only white girl in a group of 20 people (even the trainers were Asian). I wasn't bothered about that particularly at first, but it was obvious that the other people picked up on it, and kept making cultural references that they knew I wouldn't get. They kept making me feel like an uncultured 'aggora' or whatever they call white people, and doing things like all gathering round a computer to watch Youtube clips in Punjabi and laughing hysterically while I was sitting there like a numpty.

    They really fit the bill of stereotypical Asians, like making fun of one guy because he was studying Psychology and they thought it was a joke subject. Furthermore, all they seemed to talk about was their 'wealthy' friends and cars they'd just bought etc. I just felt like saying, 'if you're that sodding wealthy, what are you doing answering the phone here?'

    The funny thing is though, the AA wanted to have only UK call centres because of peoples' past experiences phoning places like bloody Bombay, but half of these Asians had such strong accents that it defeated the purpose. I loved it when customers commented to me that it was 'so nice to speak to an English person'.

    It was fine when my job started properly, because there were more white, friendly people on the call centre floor and I had a right laugh, but my 3 weeks of training were just horrible. Proof that multiculturalism is a load of tosh.
    I don't think multiculturalism is necessarily a good thing either, though if you use this story as evidence for your case you probably shouldn't aspire to anything more than working in a call centre....
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    (Original post by sunpro)
    I'm an indigenous Brit though. Why should I be made to feel like that by immigrants from developing countries?
    hurr hurr 'cause you're like white superior in your dingy call centre. :rolleyes: if their immigrants they got here through proper channels to be able to live and work here like you would if you went to another country to live, you're not so special.
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    (Original post by sunpro)
    Why should I be made to feel like a foreigner in my own country?
    Oh didums. You got socially excluded at work, big deal. I don't complain when white people talk about how they got smashed the other night or when black people talk about "drake" or whoever.

    (Original post by sunpro)
    It's this kind of attitude that is sending England down the crapper.
    No it's your attitude.
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    (Original post by Spinnerette)
    hurr hurr 'cause you're like white superior in your dingy call centre. :rolleyes: if their immigrants they got here through proper channels to be able to live and work here like you would if you went to another country to live, you're not so special.
    I'd only go and live in a country where I'm with other Europeans though i.e. USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, as none of the rest of the world has anything to offer in which I'm remotely interested, so there wouldn't be this cross-cultural nonsense.
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    So because of your personal bad experience, multiculturalism is a load of tosh? What complete rubbish. It's people like you making statements like that causing most of the problems, tbh. I'm starting to hope you're a troll. But I do know there are people out there with narrow-minded views, which is why I've responded to this thread as though you aren't one, OP.
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    (Original post by Bishamon)
    Most people who criticize "multiculturalism" are racists anyway
    That's right, drop the pathetic race card whenever anyone dares to criticise the flawed concept that is state-engineered, segregating multiculturalism. :rolleyes:
 
 
 
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