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    Right, the reason for this thread is because I just came across a member's sig which makes a rather overt reference to their sexuality.

    Now this got me thinking: why are some homosexual individuals inclined to be so blatant about their sexuality? It is widely recognised (obviously with the exception of homophobics, religious people etc) that heterosexuality and homosexuality are perfectly normal, however, I've yet to encounter a straight person who shouts about being straight. Also, why don't heterosexual people have a 'straight pride' festival?

    I can recognise that it's all centred around being proud of who you are etc, but by homosexuals highlighting their apparent difference, surely they're just making a 'rod for their own back' with regard to people who 'fear' them because they are different?

    Anyway, I just want to hear other people's opinions and views, and please let me make it clear that I am in no way homophobic; two of my best friends are gay, but with them, I also find that they engage in PDAs far more frequently than my straight friends. Discuss.
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    (Original post by IheartASOS)
    please let me make it clear that I am in no way homophobic; two of my best friends are gay
    Ahh, the age-old 'gay friend so I'm not homophobic' scapegoat.

    Cliché much?
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    (Original post by Christian_j)
    Ahh, the age-old 'gay friend so I'm not homophobic' scapegoat.

    Cliché much?

    I clichéd your mum
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    (Original post by Christian_j)
    Ahh, the age-old 'gay friend so I'm not homophobic' scapegoat.

    Cliché much?
    No, seriously. One's a guy, the other's a girl.
    It was only a question. Not once in my post did I make any comments that could be perceived as homophobic, so please don't assume that.
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    Maybe the overt refernence was due to feeling repressed somehow and wanting to express himself how he wanted to do it. If I can be perfectly honest with you - I dn't think your two gay mates PDA more often, I just think it's more noticeable.

    And gay pride - I think it's leftover from the days of unequal laws and people wanting to be proud of who they are. I don't think any of my friends go.

    Maybe if you want soemthing similar you could organise a straight pride ?
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    I totally agree with some of the things you are saying but a lot of people don't accept gay people and often discriminate and are abusive towards gay people when in actual fact, what a person does in their own time is nobody's business but their own.

    However a lot of the Gay pride festivals are to show everyone that they don't care what others opinions are and that they are proud to be gay and I believe the reason there isn't a straight pride march is because straight people don't need to fight for the right to be accepted whereas gay people do.

    It really annoys me when people are abusive and derogatory towards gay people. I mean what the hell has it got to do with anyone, what somebody does with their own body. You don't choose to be gay, I believe you are born that way in the same way that straight people are born straight. (btw this comment is aimed at you )
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    Camp people are turds.
    People who act like the opposite sex are turds.

    Gay people are fine unless they fall within said groups.
    Straight people are fine unless they fall within said groups.

    I hate anyone who falls within those 2 groups. It just so happens that there are more gay people within those groups.

    Why is it that when someone is gay, they usually adhere to the gay stereotype, like Will Young? Why do they suddenly just become gay?
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    (Original post by RiddleMeThis)
    I clichéd your mum

    haha tht is soooo funny
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    Straight people don't need a pride festival because they are the majority and they have rights.

    The whole point of gay pride (although this meaning has been lost along the way) is to campaign for equal rights. For example, in this country, gay people still cannot get married (civil partnerships are not marriages). I see pride as a celebration as to how far we (as a country) have come in terms of gay rights, just 40 years ago it was illegal to engage in homosexual acts.
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    Oh I love it when people justify their opinions with 'But I'm not prejudiced, some of my good friends are [whatever],' nice logic there.

    Because they can now and they couldn't before. I recommend reading or watching The Naked Civil Servant if you want to understand it properly. It's a way of meeting similar people. It's a way of breaking taboos or celebrating how much attitudes have changed, depending on where you are and the company you're in.

    You've never met a straight person that shouts about being straight? You've never met a butcher-than-butch, laddy-lad that could happily spend all day commenting on the breasts and ass of every girl that passes, interspersed with stories about who he last shagged and could happily talk your ear off about 'bloody poofs' and how metrosexual men are letting the side down, and how being gay- 'it's just not right', complete with mincing impressions? I've met several (and one was a teacher- nice), and god help us all if they ever get a pride.
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    (Original post by Jingers)
    Camp people are turds.
    People who act like the opposite sex are turds.

    Gay people are fine unless they fall within said groups.
    Straight people are fine unless they fall within said groups.

    I hate anyone who falls within those 2 groups. It just so happens that there are more gay people within those groups.

    Why is it that when someone is gay, they usually adhere to the gay stereotype, like Will Young? Why do they suddenly just become gay?
    I agree I don't see why, just because some1 is gay they have to act like or even dress like a woman. Tht is totally unnecessary, and is probably the reason they have the piss taken out of them. They are the reason that most people are homophobic. They bring it on themselves.
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    I don't mind or care about gays. Guy's acting feminine pisses me off though.
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    (Original post by IheartASOS)
    Now this got me thinking: why are some homosexual individuals inclined to be so blatant about their sexuality? It is widely recognised (obviously with the exception of homophobics, religious people etc) that heterosexuality and homosexuality are perfectly normal, however, I've yet to encounter a straight person who shouts about being straight.
    Well I haven't exactly seen a gay person who jumps around shouting "OMG LOOK AT ME I'M GAY!!!!!" every 5 seconds. What I have seen is the gay equivalent of a straight bloke constantly banging on about the girl they shagged at the weekend. In both cases, their sexuality is made blatant but it seems that it's only the gay person who gets criticised for it...
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    (Original post by chris_mkdfc)
    Sorry, probably being stupid but what are PDAs?
    Public Displays of Affection.

    And I can honestly say that I see the complete opposite of what the OP said. I see PDAs between straight couples all the time and hardly ever between gay couples.
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    (Original post by 89sr11)
    Straight people don't need a pride festival because they are the majority and they have rights.
    I was under the impression homosexuals also have rights? At least in the UK...
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    (Original post by dean91290)
    I totally agree with some of the things you are saying but a lot of people don't accept gay people and often discriminate and are abusive towards gay people when in actual fact, what a person does in their own time is nobody's business but their own.

    However a lot of the Gay pride festivals are to show everyone that they don't care what others opinions are and that they are proud to be gay and I believe the reason there isn't a straight pride march is because straight people don't need to fight for the right to be accepted whereas gay people do.

    It really annoys me when people are abusive and derogatory towards gay people. I mean what the hell has it got to do with anyone, what somebody does with their own body. You don't choose to be gay, I believe you are born that way in the same way that straight people are born straight. (btw this comment is aimed at you )
    Yes, completely agree with that.
    I suppose I'm just too quick to assume that both types of sexuality are accepted as the norm, because quite evidently a lot of people are prejudiced, and thats obviously why events such as gay pride still exist :dontknow:
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    Because gays are often oppressed by ignorant straight people.
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    (Original post by IheartASOS)
    Right, the reason for this thread is because I just came across a member's sig which makes a rather overt reference to their sexuality.

    Now this got me thinking: why are some homosexual individuals inclined to be so blatant about their sexuality? It is widely recognised (obviously with the exception of homophobics, religious people etc) that heterosexuality and homosexuality are perfectly normal, however, I've yet to encounter a straight person who shouts about being straight. Also, why don't heterosexual people have a 'straight pride' festival?

    I can recognise that it's all centred around being proud of who you are etc, but by homosexuals highlighting their apparent difference, surely they're just making a 'rod for their own back' with regard to people who 'fear' them because they are different?

    Anyway, I just want to hear other people's opinions and views, and please let me make it clear that I am in no way homophobic; two of my best friends are gay, but with them, I also find that they engage in PDAs far more frequently than my straight friends. Discuss.
    Watch Before Stonewall.

    Yes, in once sense it seems silly to have "pride" over things that we don't choose and are just aspects of who we are, but when you understand the truly epic struggles that LGBT people have faced in order to be as accepted as we are now in the UK, you can surely see why some people feel entitled to express their sexuality in a very open way.

    Being open about sexuality also challenges those people who believe we should hide away and not display our "perverted" natures in public. It's about challenging stereotypes and people who wish we didn't exist and about having the confidence to be honest about who we are despite the crap that still comes with it.

    "Pride" also isn't about being proud of being gay. It's about being proud of overcoming adversity, being proud of achieving more equal rights and about showing people that we do exist, we do have rights, we will still fight for them and we are a powerful group of real people. It's also about having solidarity with those who still struggle and about showing people that sexuality is nothing to be ashamed of.

    It's also a damned good excuse for a party.
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    (Original post by Pheonixx)
    I was under the impression homosexuals also have rights? At least in the UK...
    Sorry, I probably should have worded that a little better.

    I realise that gay people have rights, a lot more than in other places in the world. What I was trying to say, is that straight people have (or at least had) more rights when it comes to marriage, employment, etc. That's (mostly) changed under the current government, however there are still areas which need to be addressed for gay people to have all the same rights as straight people.
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    The reason that there's no Hetero version of gay pride is that heterosexuality is the social norm, there's no need for it; it's exactly the same as when people say "why is there no white history month etc etc". You could argue that gay pride does do the "rod for your own back" thing, but a lot of gay people I know find it comforting to go to events like that where they feel like they can be themselves and socialise/celebrate with people like them. Of course they socialise and celebrate with straight people, but it's something deeper than that, especially since a lot of my gay friends (and myself, although I'm bisexual) have had difficult times dealing with their sexuality. If you're straight, nobody's too bothered and nobody's struggled.

    In relation to the other part of the question about shouting about sexuality, it depends on who you know but none of my friends really do that. I have a friend who's head of the LGBT Union at his uni and he didn't shout about his sexuality to people, he just liked embracing it and supporting people who might have struggled like him, I wish someone like that was around when I was trying to figure myself out He's organising LGBT History Month events right now and they're really interesting. Often with the people I know you'll be quite surprised if they mention a partner in passing.

    Overall I would say the whole issue has nuances, this is just my personal experience and opinion and it might not be fully representative

    PS-in relation to PDA, if I kissed my now ex-boyfriend goodbye in the train station nobody gave a crap. when I kissed my now ex-girlfriend goodbye in the same station, a man actually stopped and gaped at us. It's not seen every day, therefore it's more noticed.
 
 
 
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