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    (Original post by SagarG)
    haha yeah! i'm entitled to an excess scholar where i can get an extra 1K in cash, if i suceed my offer and get 3A's

    8/9k for me ! (if i get 3a's ofcourse....)
    Is that the debating scholarship

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    I've already answered this on other threads so I'm gonna keep it pretty short. There are some extremely posh students here, but only a small minority are snobbish/make it an issue. There are quite a lot of lower-middle class/working class people too, especially in the cheaper accomodations, one of the reasons I chose to live in Lafrowda was because I was worried I wouldn't fit in because of things I read on here. Pretty much everyone I've met here has been lovely, most of them pretty posh compared to at home but not in a way that's made me feel out of place. (Source: I'm a northerner at the uni )
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    (Original post by yg95)
    Is that the debating scholarship

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    No this was more of an incentive to firm them and excel my original offer
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    My family background is working class and I'm sure most people in my situation have already experienced people looking down on you, and its not nice. I can see why someone would be apprehensive about leaving home to live with 'snobs' as it could turn out to be one of the worst decisions you will make. I also think that if you compare the 'Jack Wills' clan, to someone wearing slightly down-market wear, say Burton or, if you want an extreme, Primark, they will give you an immediate judgement, that's what people are like. It horrible to bee judged on your appearance, but many people are and we all do it. Given that, I also think that you have to shrug it off in order to strive towards a place at fantastic institution, as there will be people in the same situation to you.
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    (Original post by joereed)
    My family background is working class and I'm sure most people in my situation have already experienced people looking down on you, and its not nice. I can see why someone would be apprehensive about leaving home to live with 'snobs' as it could turn out to be one of the worst decisions you will make. I also think that if you compare the 'Jack Wills' clan, to someone wearing slightly down-market wear, say Burton or, if you want an extreme, Primark, they will give you an immediate judgement, that's what people are like. It horrible to bee judged on your appearance, but many people are and we all do it. Given that, I also think that you have to shrug it off in order to strive towards a place at fantastic institution, as there will be people in the same situation to you.
    I don't think it's even clothes that are a big issue anyone with a part time job can afford jack Willis. Its more to do with the way people speak and their background but too be fair when I visited Exeter there weren't that many people who stood out as being affluent

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    (Original post by joereed)
    I also think that if you compare the 'Jack Wills' clan, to someone wearing slightly down-market wear, say Burton or, if you want an extreme, Primark, they will give you an immediate judgement, that's what people are like. .
    I <3 primark, and take no shame in saying so!
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    (Original post by SagarG)
    I <3 primark, and take no shame in saying so!
    I'm not saying you should haha
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    (Original post by yg95)
    I don't think it's even clothes that are a big issue anyone with a part time job can afford jack Willis. Its more to do with the way people speak and their background but too be fair when I visited Exeter there weren't that many people who stood out as being affluent

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    I think clothes is a definite discriminative factor, you get a snap judgement of someone and even subconsciously we all do it. However Exeter does seem a nice play to study, not too big not too small, and that reputation of it being posh I feel is probably wrong. There may be a larger percentage of 'upper class' people, but if they think you are not good enough to talk to them, then they probably need to rethink there socialising skills.
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    (Original post by joereed)
    I'm not saying you should haha
    hey yeahhh... just thought i'd say that for the sake of liking primark dont mind me
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    I've already said in this thread that I qualified for the access bursary because of my family income, but I still wear jack wills. I just got a job to pay for my ****. Don't go judging people because of their clothing, whether its better than yours or ****ter than yours, it really doesn't matter.
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    (Original post by Serentonin)
    I've already said in this thread that I qualified for the access bursary because of my family income, but I still wear jack wills. I just got a job to pay for my ****. Don't go judging people because of their clothing, whether its better than yours or ****ter than yours, it really doesn't matter.
    The whole point of what I'm saying is that it shouldn't be the case, but people will do it, and so a social hierarchy is formed straight from it.
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    (Original post by joereed)
    The whole point of what I'm saying is that it shouldn't be the case, but people will do it, and so a social hierarchy is formed straight from it.
    Lol jack Willis is bloody ugly I don't see how someone who wears it will think that they're better

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    OP here, using this resurrected thread as a procrastination tool, almost 3 and a half years later! I agree with pretty much all of the criticism that has been leveled at my OP, I don't remember posting it and I cringe a bit when I see how terribly worded and shallow it was.

    I think it reflects a mindset that I'm sure nearly all prospective students, when choosing a University, can relate to; "Will I find people like me?". This was one of my main concerns at the time and it is something that I'm sure many people feel is important in deciding on which University to attend. I suppose it is also the root of this "inverted snobbery".

    Only when you settle in to University do you realise that the essence of a fulfilling University experience lies in engaging with people who are not like you. Id be surprised if anyone could honestly say that they did not experience a culture shock during their first few weeks at University, I'm afraid it's pretty much inevitable. Only through this experience do you become much more open minded and much more willing to give people who are nothing like you, a chance.

    I didn't choose Exeter in the end as I didn't like the look of the course after attending an open day, but I'm sure I would've been happy there.
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    (Original post by joereed)
    My family background is working class and I'm sure most people in my situation have already experienced people looking down on you, and its not nice. I can see why someone would be apprehensive about leaving home to live with 'snobs' as it could turn out to be one of the worst decisions you will make. I also think that if you compare the 'Jack Wills' clan, to someone wearing slightly down-market wear, say Burton or, if you want an extreme, Primark, they will give you an immediate judgement, that's what people are like. It horrible to bee judged on your appearance, but many people are and we all do it. Given that, I also think that you have to shrug it off in order to strive towards a place at fantastic institution, as there will be people in the same situation to you.
    Burton is down market??? Damn, and I thought I was classy.

    In all seriousness though, the Uni does is above average interms of posh people, but that's not a bad thing, get in with these people and see where the opportunities take you. It sounds cold I know, but the world is cold, take this disadvantage and make it an advantage. Know a person who books skiing holidays to the alps every year? Well if you become genuine friends with them they might invite you down too.

    I'm not saying befriend people for what you can get off them, I'm saying keep an open mind, treat them as any other student, just be friendly, and actually you can benefit in 2 ways, having good friends, and also other perks.
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    Yes...but what kind of 'white' are we talking about? a nationalist white that walks backwards to glorify there own culture; with a history that should instead correct and progress to reverse? We are talking about the 'white' hunts/man/woman. Thats the issue, that they congregate at exeter.

    Another thing the diversity at exeter is primarily located in the business and medical centres, full of super-wealthy, Chinese, south asian, and Arab brat packs. Thats not diversity, that's pure money that dosent actually integrate in the general population. There is actually no diversity in English, drama, and art.

    Exeter is the most careerist/elitist institution. People have an issue with it because its not inclusive and progressive like most decent Universities whom at least try in there Admissions because they realise that diversity is necessary for a healthy, coherent environment , not because they feel inferior. If Exeter doesn't unnerve you there is something wrong with you.
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    (Original post by H.H.H.)
    Yes...but what kind of 'white' are we talking about? a nationalist white that walks backwards to glorify there own culture; with a history that should instead correct and progress to reverse? We are talking about the 'white' hunts/man/woman. Thats the issue, that they congregate at exeter.

    Another thing the diversity at exeter is primarily located in the business and medical centres, full of super-wealthy, Chinese, south asian, and Arab brat packs. Thats not diversity, that's pure money that dosent actually integrate in the general population. There is actually no diversity in English, drama, and art.

    Exeter is the most careerist/elitist institution. People have an issue with it because its not inclusive and progressive like most decent Universities whom at least try in there Admissions because they realise that diversity is necessary for a healthy, coherent environment , not because they feel inferior. If Exeter doesn't unnerve you there is something wrong with you.
    And another thing; there is no diversity in the actual academic department. There are no radical academics that proclaim themselves, or are particularity subversive. From my experience they are focussed on putting the students first, and the student experience. This kind of sensitivity does not create cultural changers, rather pretty, happy, little babies whom don't ever grow up even with a first class degree - this is pathetic and undesirable - academics deal in and speak the language of privilege in their manner that with only produce a student population of schizo narcs to put it plainly - whom are unable to integrate intelligentsia into reality. Instead academia becoming a badge of entitlement and pride/ instead of any real enlightenment and social change.

    And the facts expose even more truth; exeter has climbed the tables fast, and there is a reason why, because they are under a great deal of pressure to get the right numbers, and that's exactly why they have climbed, not because of any authentic progress. Note high rates of academic bullying also - that doesn't happen in politicized environments...that happens in careerist insitutions...

    Whilst they write on the uni newspaper that half of the population went to state school - an academic told me that majority of students have had private tuition throughout there school experience - not to mention the grammar school population. Thats the issue, the numbers lie, they do not reveal the truth but try and propagate a PC image. And that's the very same motivation, that students get involved in politics and charitable causes, images. The rare people who genuinely live and talk politics - who care- will find it impossible to integrate, there are very very few whom are actually political. You know this because the majority wont talk out of the seminar room and rarely in the seminar room, they are not open in their day to day actions. Obviously Its a world of concepts/ideas that don't make it into their day to day lives . Unless your conservative - which actually isn't a political stance for them - its an emotive position and a lifestyle that bleeds over into politics which means that they don't have to do/think at all.
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    But surely if you get offers from multiple RG universities, it's not unwise to avoid places like Exeter/choose somewhere where there will be more diversity?

    (Original post by nonswimmer)
    The thing that worries me about the number of enquiries you get re: class is that if students from working class backgrounds decide that they'd rather go to a university where the social mix will be more like the one they have grown up with, that excludes most of the 'top' and 'elite' universities.
 
 
 
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