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    Okay, I'm driving a Peugot 306 1.4 75bhp (2001 and 95k). I am looking to make some horsepower/perfomance gains. I have heard that for small petrol engines, induction kits are best, would this be wise? Also would a decat exhaust provide more than say, 5bhp?

    Finally, does lowering the car actually affect perfomance?

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    Lowering will have an effect on handling. It will be bumpy if you lower more than 40mil.

    Realistically id save your money, but if your hell bent on doing things then id say.

    Enclosed induction kit, with a cold air feed. 4-2-1 manifold and a decat (pugsport) exhaust system.

    New would cost around £480 odd, and you will probably see a gain of around 7-8 brake if your lucky! Decats are also illegal and wont pass an MOT on emissions.

    My advice? Save your money and invest in something with a bit more go. 106 GTi's 1.6.16v go quite well for their size.
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    (Original post by Alex Rallye)
    Lowering will have an effect on handling. It will be bumpy if you lower more than 40mil.

    Realistically id save your money, but if your hell bent on doing things then id say.

    Enclosed induction kit, with a cold air feed. 4-2-1 manifold and a decat (pugsport) exhaust system.

    New would cost around £480 odd, and you will probably see a gain of around 7-8 brake if your lucky! Decats are also illegal and wont pass an MOT on emissions.

    My advice? Save your money and invest in something with a bit more go. 106 GTi's 1.6.16v go quite well for their size.
    spending £480 is the cheapest way to get 7 horses?
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    (Original post by JamieSpedding)
    spending £480 is the cheapest way to get 7 horses?
    On small engine cars.
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    Youd be better off with an engine conversion
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    (Original post by hontoir)
    Youd be better off with an engine conversion
    you mean, a full replacment?
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    Im sure there is a Pug 2.0 Td engine, which you can chip to around 200bhp
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    http://www.europerformance.co.uk/pag...oduct=12569851
    does anyone know how much power i could get from this?
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    (Original post by Alex Rallye)
    Lowering will have an effect on handling. It will be bumpy if you lower more than 40mil.

    Realistically id save your money, but if your hell bent on doing things then id say.

    Enclosed induction kit, with a cold air feed. 4-2-1 manifold and a decat (pugsport) exhaust system.

    New would cost around £480 odd, and you will probably see a gain of around 7-8 brake if your lucky! Decats are also illegal and wont pass an MOT on emissions.

    My advice? Save your money and invest in something with a bit more go. 106 GTi's 1.6.16v go quite well for their size.
    Not necessarily. It would only fail it's MOT if the emissions were bad enough (my car doesn't even have a catalytic converter and it flies through emissions tests) and it only becomes illegal if decatting it pushes the noise above the specified legal decibels to come from a car. There are chavvy back boxes that produce much, much more noise than a simple de-cat so I wouldn't worry about it.

    I'm getting a straight through center section pipe for the Landy sometime to improve low range grunt a little, not to mention straight through diesels sound phit :love: especially with the turbo whistle.
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    (Original post by JamieSpedding)
    spending £480 is the cheapest way to get 7 horses?
    Yes, around that IF the parts are new. Second hand can be had for alot less, if you can fit them yourself.

    ETA:

    Weight also plays a huge part in the performance of small engined cars.
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    drop in a more powerful engine. rip out as much weight as you can.
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    (Original post by lodzinski)
    drop in a more powerful engine. rip out as much weight as you can.
    that's pretty specialist though, and theres not a lot of weight i can take out (still want to keep the backseats, spare wheel, air con etc)
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    (Original post by JamieSpedding)
    http://www.europerformance.co.uk/pag...oduct=12569851
    does anyone know how much power i could get from this?
    Yes. Somewhere between 0 and 1 HP.



    Im being serious - it wont help much if at all. Your better saving up and buying a faster car.
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    (Original post by Riderz)
    Yes. Somewhere between 0 and 1 HP.



    Im being serious - it wont help much if at all. Your better saving up and buying a faster car.
    Yeah.... but you get 50 extra NP!!!! (Noise Power :p:)
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    performance gains from such a small engine will be hard.
    add a fuel pressure boost valve and throttle response will increase.
    run on premium fuel and use ngk plugs will add a bit off power.
    uprate your clutch to reduce transmission losses
    upgrade suspension, bushes and add stut braces and anti roll bars to increase handling.
    upgrade brakes
    intake and exhaust might add some power depending on how restrictive oem is
    best option will be to add lightness though (and cheapest for a while)
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    (Original post by dh00001)
    performance gains from such a small engine will be hard.
    add a fuel pressure boost valve and throttle response will increase.
    run on premium fuel and use ngk plugs will add a bit off power.
    uprate your clutch to reduce transmission losses
    upgrade suspension, bushes and add stut braces and anti roll bars to increase handling.
    upgrade brakes
    intake and exhaust might add some power depending on how restrictive oem is
    best option will be to add lightness though (and cheapest for a while)
    whats the best way to lighten the car?
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    Strip out everything.

    Seats, interior panels, carpets.

    Then

    Carbon fibre/GRP panels, polycarbonate windows, lighter wheels.
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    (Original post by dh00001)
    performance gains from such a small engine will be hard.
    add a fuel pressure boost valve and throttle response will increase.
    run on premium fuel and use ngk plugs will add a bit off power.
    uprate your clutch to reduce transmission losses
    Top bit yes.

    No on "Pressure boost valves."

    No on "Higher octane fuel and different plugs"

    No on "Differnet clutch to reduce transmission loss".

    Doesn't work like that.








    You wanna get power out of that engine? It's gonna cost ya.

    I'm feeling:

    Throttle bodies
    Aggressive cam
    Balanced bottom end
    Different pistons and rods to higher compression ratio
    A decent aftermarket ECU to run all above.

    Still won't make that much power.

    Or a low boost turbo kit would be ok.

    You'd need:

    Exhaust manifold, intercooler, turbo, pipework, and either a new ECU or have the current one chipped/mapped (Probably neither, I don't know Pug ECU's at all).
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    To be honest, in terms of performance increase per cost, you're probably best off selling up and getting something faster. Though I appreciate those 306's are like road legal go-karts :P
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    Nitrous Oxide Systems.

    No joke. Cheapest solution.
 
 
 
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