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    (Original post by secretmessages)
    You're so confusing, but thanks :yy:
    How am I confusing? As a Windows system builder, Apple offer ridiculous upgrade prices.
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    Hmm okay :holmes: I've hardly ever used 4GB before so I don't know.
    Are you sure you know how much you use?
    Resource monitor with Vista and 7 is quite handy, but if you haven't used 4GB (20 chrome tabs on generic sites with flash adverts will take a big chunk) then go for the CPU.

    That said, consider that Crucial offer Mac RAM and I've seen it installed successfully before - might be a cheaper option?
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    (Original post by spikeymike)
    How am I confusing? As a Windows system builder, Apple offer ridiculous upgrade prices.
    Because you said upgrading the RAM was ridiculously overpriced and then went ahead to say it was the best option :p:

    (Original post by Chrosson)
    Are you sure you know how much you use?
    Resource monitor with Vista and 7 is quite handy, but if you haven't used 4GB (20 chrome tabs on generic sites with flash adverts will take a big chunk) then go for the CPU.

    That said, consider that Crucial offer Mac RAM and I've seen it installed successfully before - might be a cheaper option?
    Yeah, well I use Ubuntu most of the time but I always have some kind of resource monitor open. Only using 1.2GB at the moment but I'm not doing much admittedly. Interesting what you say about Crucial RAM, thanks.

    Also, I'm an idiot when it comes to these things and don't really know what causes slowness so.. say.. when I open 10 Chrome tabs simultaneously, it goes a bit sluggish - what do I need more of to fix that?
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    (Original post by secretmessages)
    Because you said upgrading the RAM was ridiculously overpriced and then went ahead to say it was the best option :p:
    Well I was looking at this one and the default is 4GB... http://store.apple.com/uk/configure/...co=MjIwNTQ0OTA
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    (Original post by spikeymike)
    Well I was looking at this one and the default is 4GB... http://store.apple.com/uk/configure/...co=MjIwNTQ0OTA
    Oh sorry I completely misread your post :facepalm2: So you're saying you would just take the base build?
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    (Original post by secretmessages)
    Oh sorry I completely misread your post :facepalm2: So you're saying you would just take the base build?
    Thought so smug:

    Yes.

    Sandwich. NOW. :rofl: Y U NO btw? :holmes:
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    (Original post by spikeymike)
    Thought so smug:

    Yes.

    Sandwich. NOW. :rofl: Y U NO btw? :holmes:
    Meh, I want to upgrade one.

    I formatted my computer yesterday, haven't sorted it yet.
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    (Original post by secretmessages)
    Meh, I want to upgrade one.

    I formatted my computer yesterday, haven't sorted it yet.
    You're call.

    You have an iPad, Tm2, desktop, iPhone, Tosh netbook - sure you could come one via one of those methods. :rofl:
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    (Original post by secretmessages)
    Because you said upgrading the RAM was ridiculously overpriced and then went ahead to say it was the best option :p:


    Yeah, well I use Ubuntu most of the time but I always have some kind of resource monitor open. Only using 1.2GB at the moment but I'm not doing much admittedly. Interesting what you say about Crucial RAM, thanks.

    Also, I'm an idiot when it comes to these things and don't really know what causes slowness so.. say.. when I open 10 Chrome tabs simultaneously, it goes a bit sluggish - what do I need more of to fix that?
    What do you have at the moment? It could be either.
    HD videos will be CPU limited, lots and lots of tabs (just idling) will generally be RAM limited.

    Note that crucial do not currently sell RAM for mid 2011 iMacs, and that (when they do start selling it) you may have to take apart your mac to put in more ram (I think this has got better with recent models though see http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3918).
    Alternatively, look for RAM matching the specs listed on http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4621

    FWIW, these are the prices for last years iMac i5 RAM (which seems to be compatible, but I'd wait for confirmation from someone else in case I've misread in tiredness) - http://www.crucial.com/uk/store/list...202010&Cat=RAM

    Note they're over 5x cheaper than the upgrade offered on the Apple site...
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    Luls, i'm considering getting a mac pro case and hackintoshing... keep me busy before the start of term
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    That iMac builder made me rage.

    +£160 for an extra 4GB RAM :eek:.
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    Gotta love the joys of checking Apple's RAM prices =P £80 to upgrade the base model air from 2GB to 4GB is just plain insane, even if they do have to be soldered onto the motherboard
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    (Original post by secretmessages)
    Whatever the new iMacs have

    Sorry Vlad...
    Out...
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    (Original post by Chrosson)
    What do you have at the moment? It could be either.
    HD videos will be CPU limited, lots and lots of tabs (just idling) will generally be RAM limited.

    Note that crucial do not currently sell RAM for mid 2011 iMacs, and that (when they do start selling it) you may have to take apart your mac to put in more ram (I think this has got better with recent models though see http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3918).
    Alternatively, look for RAM matching the specs listed on http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4621

    FWIW, these are the prices for last years iMac i5 RAM (which seems to be compatible, but I'd wait for confirmation from someone else in case I've misread in tiredness) - http://www.crucial.com/uk/store/listparts.aspx?model=iMac%203.6G Hz%20Intel%20Core%20i5%20%2827-inch%20-%20DDR3%29%20Mid%202010&Cat= RAM

    Note they're over 5x cheaper than the upgrade offered on the Apple site...
    I'm not entirely sure, Core 2 Duo-P7450 (P) 2.13 GHz (25W) apparently, and 4GB of RAM. I assume then, that the CPU on my current computer is severely lacking, so I should see a very big improvement should I get the 3.1 iMac?

    I'm beginning to think that perhaps I should buy the base model without upgrading either CPU or RAM, and then I can always add more RAM at least at a later date (and cheaply) if I want to, right? Though to be quite honest, I'm starting to think 3.1GHz and 4GB of RAM is going to be plenty in the first place.
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    RAM looks quite easy to get at on an iMac: http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Repair/I...nch-RAM/1630/1

    Replacing the HDD seems to involve removing the display, so that's not for the faint-hearted. Replacing the CPU is impossible as far as I know.

    I'm forced to use a 2GB RAM MacBook at work, and it's fairly dire. 4 GB should be enough for you, but you may want to look for an upgrade later.
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    (Original post by Dez)
    RAM looks quite easy to get at on an iMac: http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Repair/I...nch-RAM/1630/1

    Replacing the HDD seems to involve removing the display, so that's not for the faint-hearted. Replacing the CPU is impossible as far as I know.

    I'm forced to use a 2GB RAM MacBook at work, and it's fairly dire. 4 GB should be enough for you, but you may want to look for an upgrade later.
    So assuming 4GB should be okay for me, and I can upgrade it later, I think I'll forget about 8GB for now. Maybe.

    What would you do about the CPU?
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    So assuming 4GB should be okay for me, and I can upgrade it later, I think I'll forget about 8GB for now. Maybe.

    What would you do about the CPU?
    I'd go for the beefier one, but it depends what you'll be using it for. I tend to run things like Photoshop, VMs, etc. that eat CPU cycles, so having a stronger processor makes sense for me. :p:
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    I'm not entirely sure, Core 2 Duo-P7450 (P) 2.13 GHz (25W) apparently, and 4GB of RAM. I assume then, that the CPU on my current computer is severely lacking, so I should see a very big improvement should I get the 3.1 iMac?

    I'm beginning to think that perhaps I should buy the base model without upgrading either CPU or RAM, and then I can always add more RAM at least at a later date (and cheaply) if I want to, right? Though to be quite honest, I'm starting to think 3.1GHz and 4GB of RAM is going to be plenty in the first place.
    Core 2 Duo to an i5 will be a nice jump, yes. Whether you want the i7 really depends on how long you want it lasting/what you want it doing (and if you can justify another £160 on top of the current price...). But then if you're buying a Mac £160 must be like pocket change
    Note that the iMac spikey linked to is the 21.5 inch, not the 27 inch that you were originally asking about (I inferred that from the CPU speeds).

    Yes, you'll have 2 free slots for RAM if you go with the base model so an upgrade should be quick and easy - absolutely no reason to take the plunge now and spend an extra £160 (!) on 4GB of RAM. IIRC OSX (and included applications like safari and itunes) can be quite heavyweight so you may find you need to upgrade sooner than you thought.
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    (Original post by Dez)
    I'd go for the beefier one, but it depends what you'll be using it for. I tend to run things like Photoshop, VMs, etc. that eat CPU cycles, so having a stronger processor makes sense for me. :p:
    (Original post by Chrosson)
    Core 2 Duo to an i5 will be a nice jump, yes. Whether you want the i7 really depends on how long you want it lasting/what you want it doing (and if you can justify another £160 on top of the current price...). But then if you're buying a Mac £160 must be like pocket change
    Note that the iMac spikey linked to is the 21.5 inch, not the 27 inch that you were originally asking about (I inferred that from the CPU speeds).

    Yes, you'll have 2 free slots for RAM if you go with the base model so an upgrade should be quick and easy - absolutely no reason to take the plunge now and spend an extra £160 (!) on 4GB of RAM. IIRC OSX (and included applications like safari and itunes) can be quite heavyweight so you may find you need to upgrade sooner than you thought.
    Decisions decisions :sad: Is the i5 -> i7 upgrade worth the £160, or is that vastly over-expensive too?

    Edit: and ha, I wish £160 was pocket change :p: I want an iMac but I'm trying to justify spending an extra £160 on an already overpriced piece of hardware. I know I'd feel more comfortable money-wise if I just bought the base model but I do want something that will last.
 
 
 
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