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    (Original post by robinson999)
    she's my local MP and couldn't be any more annoying, its seems funny that in a time that the BNP are looking strong in that area(to the shame of it) she is nicking what they campaign on even in the 2005 local council elections

    lets clear this up i don't support the BNP but when they are the seconded largest party on the council you hear alot about them
    Dagenham and Barking constituency?

    The BNP are a racist party, no two ways about it. But Margaret Hodge has shot from the hip and said what a lot of Labour supporters (I myself don't vote) have been saying for a while.
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    (Original post by paddy__power)
    True, but experience tells me that there are many jobs that (a lot of)british people would prefer to fake a back injury than take, which they would take as, tbh, they are less fussy and are not in a position to be so.

    Inevitibly the impact would not be confined just to these kinds of jobs of course, but a significant proportion would be.

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    Whilst I do encourage the multi racial and multi culural evolotion of communities, it's true that those same communities can be over saturated by immigrants, making them ghettoised.

    As for the job market, who defines which jobs "people won't take". and which they will?

    Let's look at it.

    They're are plenty of blue collar jobs that British people WILL do. But they can't a lot of the time because of the economic migrants.

    Bus drivers for example. A well paid job, for the work it is. One of my local bus companies is almost entirely Polish. And I know there are British workers would do that job.

    My Dad is a baker by trade. Owns his own small business now, and makes ends meet, but is apprehensive about ever going b ack into the trade should he need to due to many websites advertising for migrant workers only.

    When I look at it, there are not many jobs British people "won't do". It's because they can't do them.
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    (Original post by robinson999)

    for people looking in, it seems like she hitting the nail on the head, saying what is right, but from the ones inside have heard it all before, it seen MP trying anything to remain in power
    You've got to empathise with the people who actually live in communities with immigrant populations to know what it's like. It's alright for the left wing observer who lives in the countryside and tries to prophesise about how bad inner city problems are. I don't know what the demographic of Barking is like but I assume it as a white minority? Or am I wrong.

    BTW not refering to you there when I said left wing country folk as I know Barking is urban :p:
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    (Original post by jaydoh)
    Whilst I do encourage the multi racial and multi culural evolotion of communities, it's true that those same communities can be over saturated by immigrants, making them ghettoised.

    As for the job market, who defines which jobs "people won't take". and which they will?

    Let's look at it.

    They're are plenty of blue collar jobs that British people WILL do. But they can't a lot of the time because of the economic migrants.

    Bus drivers for example. A well paid job, for the work it is. One of my local bus companies is almost entirely Polish. And I know there are British workers would do that job.

    My Dad is a baker by trade. Owns his own small business now, and makes ends meet, but is apprehensive about ever going b ack into the trade should he need to due to many websites advertising for migrant workers only.

    When I look at it, there are not many jobs British people "won't do". It's because they can't do them.
    I think atm, when there are so few jobs, you are probabaly correct as people are more willing to take a non-desireable job and even a move down the job ladder etc. I still think that in 'boom' years the problem is not as pronounced, not enough to be a huge issue, but still enough for it to be looked at.

    I can't help but hear 'British jobs for british workers' in the back of my mind but I don't think this is completely the way to go. In terms of european migrants, we are part of the EU - it comes with the territory really.

    I think essentially the problem is drawing the line somewhere, where do we draw it.

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    (Original post by robinson999)
    no matter what people say it still is, like 70%+

    i am left winged :puppyeyes:

    i am have come to a point where being very careful to what a MP says
    I lean to the left myself, if you were to place me on the political spectrum. BUT I am not so extreme left I am blind to see the problems.

    But there again, economically I have socialist views but am not keen on immigration to a great degree. So dunno where it leaves me.
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    (Original post by robinson999)
    immigration is not too bad if used in the right way


    anyway i still think Magaret Hodge will get elected, 30% majority needs to be turned around
    I meant to say lesser or greater degree. I too think if worked properly and controlled it is proactive.
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    Voting for Margaret Hodge if I lived in her constituency is something I'd do, to keep out the BNP and its evil policies. It would remind me of the French election in 2001 (I think) where some voters covered their noses to mask the 'smell' of voting for Chirac as the alternative was Le Pen.
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    (Original post by barnetlad)
    Voting for Margaret Hodge if I lived in her constituency is something I'd do, to keep out the BNP and its evil policies. It would remind me of the French election in 2001 (I think) where some voters covered their noses to mask the 'smell' of voting for Chirac as the alternative was Le Pen.
    Garlic, presumably.

    The very idea that housing should be assigned in such an arbitrary way as someone's position on a list or someone's length of residence in the country is ridiculous. Decent housing, like any commodity, should be traded to the highest bidder.

    As for benefits - again, ******* stupid. We give out benefits for a reason - to stop people starving on the streets, to give opportunities to the children of the poor and so on. It doesn't matter a blind jot whether these people are white or brown; British or foreign; long-term resident or recent migrant - the purpose is the same, and the treatment should be the same.
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    I have heard her say this before and IMO this is totally fair.
 
 
 
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