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    Someone say Bristol up in here?

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    (Original post by paddy__power)
    It's not 4th best in the world, although they like to quote the table that says it is lol.

    It's very good though yes - on a par with Warwick/Durham IMO.

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    Why is it not 4th best in the world, seeing as that is were the World University Ranking place them?
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    (Original post by Bubbles*de*Milo)
    So, loads of Americans have specifically heard of KCL rather than UCL? Hmmmmmm, don't think so

    And that has nothing to do with anything at all. Bristol is seen as more prestigious than London Met, it doesn't matter who's heard of Bristol or not, that's still a fact. Your counter argument is terrible and flawed.

    And if UCL isn't seen as more prestigious than KCL, why is UCL higher than KCL in every single league table?
    But do you agree kings is more prestigious then queens?
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    (Original post by cgpas)
    But do you agree kings is more prestigious then queens?

    I don't even know what Queens is, so...
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    (Original post by Bubbles*de*Milo)
    I don't even know what Queens is, so...
    sorry "QMUL" the uni you seem to go to..
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    (Original post by cgpas)
    sorry "QMUL" the uni you seem to go to..

    I've never heard anyone refer to it as 'Queens'. Ever. It's called 'Queen Mary', it's plural, get it right please.

    And yes I'd say Kings is more prestigious than Queen Mary. This somehow invalidates my argument and is totally relevant how?
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    (Original post by vas876)
    Why is it not 4th best in the world, seeing as that is were the World University Ranking place them?
    Are you being facetious or are you not aware how flawed the tables are? Trying to claim that UCL's research base is vastly superior to the majority of Ivies seems quite farcical to me, even though I currently go to UCL.
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    (Original post by The Blind Monk)
    Are you being facetious or are you not aware how flawed the tables are? Trying to claim that UCL's research base is vastly superior to the majority of Ivies seems quite farcical to me, even though I currently go to UCL.
    Considering a greater proportion of their research is world leading, than those ivies, then why not?. Then whats the problem or are you suddenly the authority on research assessment or a better judge than the RAE and US equivalent?
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    (Original post by Dynamitri)
    They're French, but still EU.

    Fees for EU are the same as UK fees. Your argument is therefore invalid - would have made sense with US applicants or people from Asia, but not European Union ones.

    /thread. kthxbai etc.
    ah. didn't know that.

    but you should probably calm down. it's just an internet forum
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    (Original post by choongsta)
    but you should probably calm down.
    :lolwut:

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    (Original post by gammaknifed)
    It's pretty good yeah, certainly top 5 in UK and probably top 10 in world as a mutlifaculty uni. Definitely not 4th in world for undergrad, lol @ that. It is also definitely not better for science/medicine than ICL but definitely better than KCL for loads of major courses (though it's probably on a par with KCL for Medicine).

    Imo, it's one of those unis where the absolute best students are happy to get an offer from, but it likely won't be their first choice, and for the "good/solid" students it is a uni they would aspire to get in to. I think that it is becoming more and more famous, but it certainly does not have the same reputation amongst the public as oxbridge and imperial, for example.

    However, it's important to realise that the most important thing for a uni is the career prospects it gives its students. In that respect UCL is elite, and on paper will give an applicant as good a chance as any other top uni would for professional jobs.
    Definitely not better than ICL for medicine and on part with KCL?
    Please don't bother coming here then, kthxbye.
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    (Original post by Philosoraptor)
    Definitely not better than ICL for medicine and on part with KCL?
    Please don't bother coming here then, kthxbye.
    Haha you actually think UCL is better than both ICL and KCL for med?

    lolz :rolleyes: yeah UCL is the best in the world evaaaaa^2 anyone who doesn't think so should be BANISHED

    Though I'm being a bit lenient with KCL... UCL are probs better but hey. Who cares (apart from you obv).
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    (Original post by Casshern1456)
    I seem to get the picture from what I've heard it's harder to get into LSE>ICL>KCL>UCL. Like OP has said alot of my classmates have recieved offers from UCL but less from the more "prestigious uni" like LSE, ICL or KCL. IMO UCL isn't picking the most able students but instead giving offers to whomever that makes the grades. Even though alot of courses at UCL is still require high grades like 3A or 2A/1B, maybe they think their not first choice in alot of the student's application and those who got offers would go to another Uni.

    For example: I know a girl who spent 4 years at college studying for her A-levels and while I was 3 years younger than her- she was still in my C1 exam :shock: so lets face it she wasnt the most able person in the world. But she still got an offer at UCL studying Chemical Engineering, a tough and demanding course.

    Final note: I think UCL is a good university, their not high ranked for no reason. But I don't think they're as competitive as they're rival Uni's like LSE or ICL.

    Hope this helped.

    UCL >>>> KCL
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    (Original post by vas876)
    Why is it not 4th best in the world, seeing as that is were the World University Ranking place them?
    It's not even 4th in the country in some tables.

    Lesson: League tables are crap. If, as you have just implied, tables are always correct then UCL would have to simultaneously occupy several places.

    Anyone with any sense, except those at/applying to UCL, won't think UCL is 4th. Top ten maybe. It's a very good uni, just not that good lol.

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    (Original post by paddy__power)
    It's not even 4th in the country in some tables.

    Lesson: League tables are crap. If, as you have just implied, tables are always correct then UCL would have to simultaneously occupy several places.

    Anyone with any sense, except those at/applying to UCL, won't think UCL is 4th. Top ten maybe. It's a very good uni, just not that good lol.

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    Different league tables rank universties by different criteria, hence the inconcitnecy in poitioning in UK leage tables.

    Depending on the subject different criteria matter, but research regardless of the subject is probably the most important.

    This is where UCL rank 4th in the world.

    (Unless we all want to argue with the body which asseses research in the uk and other counties world wide.)
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    (Original post by vas876)
    Different league tables rank universties by different criteria, hence the inconcitnecy in poitioning in UK leage tables.

    Depending on the subject different criteria matter, but research regardless of the subject is probably the most important.

    This is where UCL rank 4th in the world.

    (Unless we all want to argue with the body which asseses research in the uk and other counties world wide.)
    Even if we assume that it is 4th best for research (may well be, I dont know or care lol), this does not = 4th 'best' in the world.

    Overall, there is no way UCL is better than: Harvard, Oxbridge, Yale, MIT that's 5 already.

    All tables will give different results yes but the world one is very dodgy in terms of what it uses.

    Even most people who go to UCL will admit it's certaily not the 4th best in the world.

    Saying this everyone has their opinions and if you think it is then fair play mate =]. It's certainly good either way.

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    (Original post by paddy__power)
    Even if we assume that it is 4th best for research (may well be, I dont know or care lol), this does not = 4th 'best' in the world.

    Overall, there is no way UCL is better than: Harvard, Oxbridge, Yale, MIT that's 5 already.

    All tables will give different results yes but the world one is very dodgy in terms of what it uses.

    Even most people who go to UCL will admit it's certaily not the 4th best in the world.

    Saying this everyone has their opinions and if you think it is then fair play mate =]. It's certainly good either way.

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    I dont think it is, and i dont see why it matters.

    But its most definately in the top 1% of all universties worldwide.

    (thats top 100, if you wondering)
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    (Original post by vas876)
    I dont think it is, and i dont see why it matters.

    But its most definitely in the top 1% of all universties worldwide.

    (thats top 100, if you wondering)
    Yes it is, comfortably. It doesn't matter - just in the last few months I have had to lol at the amount of UCL applicants and such who quote that fact and honestly beleive it, clearly this does not extend to you - so you have sense.

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    Soooo... should I accept my UCL offer, or my Imperial offer (Theoretical Physics). And what about Durham?
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    Yes it is a very good university and highly thought of for amost all subjects. and this KCL>UCL thing is a load of crap, UCL is very high in all subject rankings and extremely high in world rankings and highly rgarded all over the world. Degree from UCL = very very good!
    Imperial and LSE are specialised universitys, UCL offers the full range of subjects from jewish studies to medicine, you can't compare it as the others dont even attempt to do a full range of subjects. And theyre amazing at most of them. Overall it is amazing. Employers love a degree from UCL just as they ove oxbridge.
 
 
 
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