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    (Original post by george54)
    OOOHHHhhh i love this tactic! This is where you try and justify acts of extreme terror because, well, someone else does it worse! hehe! dude, you guys have like, millions to go before you as bad as hitler! and thats virus - whats it called... malaria! Israel has killed nowhere near as many as malaria!
    No, this is where you completely ignore the ever so valid point I just made and talk a load of nonsense! :woo:

    Now, please, criticise the other regimes for being apartheid. Go on.


    A Saudi road sign.
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    (Original post by ForeverIsMyName)
    Given that the wall has prevented almost every suicide attack since its construction and also saved the lives of Palestinians from retaliatory attacks from Israel, don't you agree in principle that the wall serves a greater good, other than it's placement, which is a contentious issue.
    Erm, don't know what era your from mate, but nowadays, some of the very latest fighter jets can fly above 50 feet.
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    (Original post by ForeverIsMyName)
    Either you can't read, or you just don't have any other arguments, so I'll spell this out for you.

    IF YOU WISH TO CLASS ISRAEL AS A TERRORIST STATE, DO SO. I DON'T CARE.

    What Israel does or doesn't do is irrelevant in classing Hamas as a terrorist organisation. Do you get it yet?
    I actually don't understand your point. So you agree that Israel may be a terrorist state, as long as Hamas isn't overlooked?

    How can you even put Israel and Hamas in the same boat, they are numerically and physically worlds apart. Explain!
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    (Original post by ForeverIsMyName)
    Either you can't read, or you just don't have any other arguments, so I'll spell this out for you.

    IF YOU WISH TO CLASS ISRAEL AS A TERRORIST STATE, DO SO. I DON'T CARE.

    What Israel does or doesn't do is irrelevant in classing Hamas as a terrorist organisation. Do you get it yet?
    You don't care? Hm, I can see this discussion collapsing within a few minutes.

    Let's class both the Israeli government and Hamas as terrorist organisations then shall we - would you be alright with that?
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    (Original post by JakePearson)
    No, this is where you completely ignore the ever so valid point I just made and talk a load of nonsense! :woo:

    Now, please, criticise the other regimes for being apartheid. Go on.


    A Saudi road sign.
    I'd rather criticise Israel thanks, it's easier, what with all the massacres and that.
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    (Original post by PeeWeeDan)
    You're replacing me as head Zionist :mad:
    Ah let's be a team. Someone needs to show these people what really goes on.
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    (Original post by george54)
    Erm, don't know what era your from mate, but nowadays, some of the very latest fighter jets can fly above 50 feet.
    What does the word 'retaliatory' mean?
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    (Original post by JakePearson)
    Many countries in the area have a law of return for Muslims - including the Palestinian Authority.
    The same PA that is under the control of Israel?

    (Original post by JakePearson)
    In fact, Jordan specifically has a law preventing Jews from becoming citizens.
    But Jews have never controlled or constituted a large minority in Jordan so I don't see what they're returning to.

    (Original post by JakePearson)
    So before you lambaste the policies of the Israeli government, look at the fanatical regimes elsewhere. :rolleyes:
    In other words, don't comment on Israeli policy?
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    (Original post by george54)
    I'd rather criticise Israel thanks, it's easier, what with all the massacres and that.
    Easy to just designate war as a massacre, therefore those who win wars are always committing massacres. However perhaps you should blame the wside which is causing the wars(Eg. Palestinian militant groups such as Hamas) rather than the side which is trying to minimize civilian casualties in a very difficult situation.
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    (Original post by Sakujo)
    The same PA that is under the control of Israel?
    No, the PA that takes the role of the Israeli military in the West Bank.

    (Original post by Sakujo)
    But Jews have never controlled or constituted a large minority in Jordan so I don't see what they're returning to.
    Still racist. Still apartheid.

    (Original post by Sakujo)
    In other words, don't comment on Israeli policy?
    Comment all you want, just don't limit it to Israel.
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    (Original post by JakePearson)
    Which has reduced suicide bombings to the grand total of.......... 0! :woo:

    Or would you prefer the bombings to continue?
    Israeli logic... :facepalm:

    Another parallel issue:

    Some black people who wear white shoes occasionally are murderers; killing all black people who have ever worn white shoes will stop all black-person-wearing-white-shoes murders against anybody else.

    Is that an agreeable thing to do then? :rolleyes:

    You're literally justifying the oppression of an entire population on these petty grounds.

    (Original post by ForeverIsMyName)
    Given that the wall has prevented almost every suicide attack since its construction and also saved the lives of Palestinians from retaliatory attacks from Israel, don't you agree in principle that the wall serves a greater good, other than it's placement, which is a contentious issue.
    OK. Yes, it would be a good thing in principle, if it was around Israel's territory (which is less than half what they currently occupy) and Israel did not use it to humiliate the 100s of 1000s of innocent Palestinians who have to cross through their intentionally slow check-points several times a day, send troops across to terrorise the population and shoot at its rain-collectors, subject them to water-torture (according to Amnesty International) and generally have a heavy hostile presence in land which is not there.

    Then, it would be OK but it is nothing like this in reality, hence why it is an apartheid regime.

    Oh, and a source for what I said:
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle6891154.ece

    (Original post by Samrout)
    Are we done here? I think Pearson has run out of bull ****
    Since he's probably being paid to do this, I doubt he'll be stopping any time soon. (I hope he doesn't though, he's really worth the laugh).
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    (Original post by Stalin)
    You don't care? Hm, I can see this discussion collapsing within a few minutes.

    Let's class both the Israeli government and Hamas as terrorist organisations then shall we - would you be alright with that?
    You can if you like. I don't really know the Israel/Palestine conflict well enough to say. Do you have any examples of the Israeli government targeting civilians to fulfil a political aim? I can't really. I don't think Israel attacks the pali civilians for any specific purpose.
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    (Original post by JakePearson)
    Ah let's be a team. Someone needs to show these people what really goes on.
    Gosh! Was that other dude right? Does Israel actually pay people like you to post on forums like these?

    It seemed far fetched when he mentioned it, but after reading the article he posted (http://afpakwar.com/blog/archives/1139) it seemed an actual possibility :eek:

    Please elaborate, although if its true I doubt you'll admit it
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    (Original post by JakePearson)
    Now, please, criticise the other regimes for being apartheid. Go on.


    A Saudi road sign.
    :rofl:

    You do realise what that is? It's a road sign to Mecca. A place where non-Muslims haven't lived for over a thousand years and is considered holy to Muslims. It's not comparable to the land of Palestine, where Arabs had lived for over a thousand years then Zionist settlers displaced them or to the Law of Return.
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    (Original post by PeeWeeDan)
    Easy to just designate war as a massacre, therefore those who win wars are always committing massacres. However perhaps you should blame the wside which is causing the wars(Eg. Palestinian militant groups such as Hamas) rather than the side which is trying to minimize civilian casualties in a very difficult situation.
    My friend, war and massacre - to most of those outside the IDF anyway - have two very different meanings.

    And unless you've been living in a cave the last few days, you would know that Israel has done anything but try and reduce the number of civilian casualties.
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    (Original post by Straightpath)
    Gosh! Was that other dude right? Does Israel actually pay people like you to post on forums like these?

    It seemed far fetched when he mentioned it, but after reading the article he posted (http://afpakwar.com/blog/archives/1139) it seemed an actual possibility :eek:

    Please elaborate, although if its true I doubt you'll admit it
    The only people that have ever paid me are the owners of a fine pub in an English seaside resort.

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    Where, from the cellar, me and PeeWeeDan run our secret plot to control the world's media and drink Palestinian blood! /sarcasm
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    (Original post by george54)
    My friend, war and massacre - to most of those outside the IDF anyway - have two very different meanings.

    And unless you've been living in a cave the last few days, you would know that Israel has done anything but try and reduce the number of civilian casualties.
    Calling civilian homes, dropping leaflets, limiting the use of fire power... youtube what Richard Kemp said of Operation Cast Lead. Only after you have done this will I bother to properly debate you on the topic(and win, because I am smarter and more informed than you) because I don't waste much time on, nor do I tolerate, idiocy.
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    (Original post by george54)
    I think your lying.

    I also think that they don't want to kill your family, I think they'd rather have their houses back.

    I also think that your sob stories may have more effect being told to someone who hasn't visited the home (check that; tent) of a family who's 7 year old son was sniped for throwing a rock at the tank that bulldozed through his home, and, coincidentally, his granddad.
    This.
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    (Original post by Straightpath)
    I actually don't understand your point. So you agree that Israel may be a terrorist state, as long as Hamas isn't overlooked?

    How can you even put Israel and Hamas in the same boat, they are numerically and physically worlds apart. Explain!
    *sigh*

    terrorist refers to the methods of fighting the enemy. hamas are terrorists, the israeli government might be a terrorist organisation, but you can't use what israel does as any kind of reason to not class hamas as a terrorist organisation.
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    (Original post by JakePearson)
    Plenty more to come. :p:

    Seeing as all you've said all night is single sentences on the evil Joos, care to stop talking bull **** yourself and say something constructive?
    Not the jews my friend, the Zionists. Those are the evil turds who give the human race a bad name.

    You want something constructive?

    (Original post by Straightpath)
    Is it just me or is more and more evidence beginning to come out of the atrocities that are reported to have happened last year in Gaza, which Israel always denies?
    Nope, its not just you, I see it too.



    I see it in the way that Israel knew full well the consequences of their actions, by ignoring Ban Ki Moon's wishes for a ceasefire. Why did Israel continue to bomb heavily populated areas? Why did an IDF jet bomb the only flour mill in the Gaza strip? Why did Israel give figures concerning dead Palestinians, different to that of the U.N? Why did Israel ban Arab parties from running for office? Why did Israel cut off water supplies to Gaza?

    Please answer the above unanswered questions Mr Pearson, and Ta-Daaaa you have before you a constructive post.
 
 
 
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