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    (Original post by JakePearson)
    No, this is where you completely ignore the ever so valid point I just made and talk a load of nonsense! :woo:

    Now, please, criticise the other regimes for being apartheid. Go on.


    A Saudi road sign.
    Saudi is a religious country. It has been ordered by our prophet not to let in the non-believers. Don't we have the right to? If it does not need money from tourism because Mecca is not a tourist location it is a holy site. Anyway, if it was so important for you to see it, I am sure they would not know who is and who is not muslim.
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    (Original post by Squeegy)
    Suppose Germany started constantly shooting rockets to the French soil. What do you think France would do even if the casualties were low? What would you do?
    Suppose the French firstly cut off all supplies to Germany, how would Germany react?
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    (Original post by DJkG.1)
    Erm, no. :erm:

    I could tell you to watch a billion videos and read a thousand books I've read parts of.

    If you aren't going to invest the effort of speaking to me directly, I'll aptly ignore your YouTube links. :rolleyes:
    The video is that of a senior British soldier explaining the Gaza War. Watch it. Or would you rather just plough on with your own bias?
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    (Original post by JakePearson)
    The video is that of a senior British soldier explaining the Gaza War. Watch it. Or would you rather just plough on with your own bias?
    And a senior British soldier is not biased?
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    (Original post by JakePearson)
    The video is that of a senior British soldier explaining the Gaza War. Watch it. Or would you rather just plough on with your own bias?
    "Watch it!"

    That is a command is it?

    Well, do you want a reading list from me with a "read it" command? :rolleyes: I'd aptly start with a good few UN resolutions and independent reports on Israeli-war crimes, as well as Amnesty International's critique on Israel's inhuman treatment of Palestinians.

    Fine, I will watch it in a bit. Then I'll tell you what is right and wrong with it / your interpretation of it.
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    (Original post by jonjon123)
    Saudi is a religious country. It has been ordered by our prophet not to let in the non-believers. Don't we have the right to? If it does not need money from tourism because Mecca is not a tourist location it is a holy site. Anyway, if it was so important for you to see it, I am sure they would not know who is and who is not muslim.
    Just as Israel has the right to ban non-Jews from entering. I disagree with this, but you've just backed the argument of the ultra-Orthodox Jews.
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    (Original post by JakePearson)
    No, this is where you completely ignore the ever so valid point I just made and talk a load of nonsense! :woo:

    Now, please, criticise the other regimes for being apartheid. Go on.


    A Saudi road sign.
    Oh I see what you're doing here, you're comparing Israel with the authoritarian, racist, oppressive, apartheid practising monarchy of Saudi Arabia which kills people who disagree with what the state says- well no problem . So the question we've been asking ourselves is what makes the pure, virgin clean, human-rights abiding, non-phoshphorous using Israel an apartheid state, well I've developed an answer to this simple question:

    Unequal funding for Arab education

    There are separate and inferior school systems for Arabs inside Israel. In 2001, Human Rights Watch reported that one in four of Israel's 1.6 million schoolchildren is educated in a completely separate public school system. The report stated that "Palestinian Arab children attend schools with larger classes and fewer teachers than do those in the Jewish school system, with some children having to travel long distances to reach the nearest school. Arab schools also contrast dramatically with the larger system in their frequent lack of basic learning facilities like libraries, computers, science laboratories, and even recreation space… The educational system has given a low priority to teacher training for the Arab school system… Palestinian Arab teachers on average have lower qualifications and receive lower salaries than non-Palestinian Arab teachers."
    http://www.hrw.org/reports/2001/isra...AEL0901-01.htm
    http://www.hrw.org/reports/2001/isra...AEL0901-10.htm
    http://abs.sagepub.com/cgi/content/abstract/49/8/1075
    http://www.hrw.org/reports/2001/isra...AEL0901-06.htm
    http://www.hrw.org/reports/2001/isra...m#P1339_191271

    Arab history, Israel's borders removed from public school textbooks

    Teachers are not allowed to teach students in public schools about the Arab history in the region. Israeli textbooks do not show the "Green Line" or the internationally recognized border between Israel and the occupied territories. They refer to the West Bank as "Judea and Samaria." "Teachers for the Arab schools are approved by the state security service, the Shin Bet, and the curriculum is designed to remove references to Palestinian history and culture…. The Shin Bet prohibits even great Arab and Palestinian literature from inclusion in the curriculum"
    http://www.peykarandeesh.org/noFarsi/Condition.html,
    http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/796896.html,
    http://www.jewishsf.com/content/2-0-...playstory.html

    Unequal funding for Arab towns

    Arab towns and villages in Israel do not receive the same funding as Jewish towns, even though taxation rates are equal for Arabs and Jews. Israel has a system of progressive taxation, with wealthier individuals paying more than those with low incomes. Under such a system, poorer communities are supposed to be helped by the higher taxes paid in wealthier ones, but this is not the case when it comes to Arab neighborhoods in Israel According to a report by the US State Department, Government spending was proportionally lower in predominantly Arab areas than in Jewish areas, which adversely affected children in Arab villages and cities."
    http://www.jewishcurrents.org/2003-jan-muraskin.htm
    http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/hrrpt/2003/27929.htm
    According to Israeli journalist Ori Nir, "Between 1975 and 2000, only 0.3 percent of public construction initiated and subsidized by the Israeli government was for Arabs." In the years 2000 -- 2004,Arab citizens received less than 5% of the overall Regular Budget of Israel. In 2005, less than 3% of the Development Budget was allocated to the Arab communities.
    http://www.fmep.org/analysis/article..._minority.html,
    http://www.jfjfp.org/factsheets/arabsinisrael.htm
    http://www.mossawacenter.org/files/f...ews%202005.pdf

    Right of return for Jews only

    Palestinians are denied the right to return to homes and lands that have been taken from them in Israel, while a person with one Jewish grandparent anywhere in the world can settle on land that has been taken from Arabs inside Israel or on Palestinian land in the occupied territories in violation of international law. (The Geneva Conventions prohibit a country from moving its own population into territory it occupies: "The Occupying Power shall not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies." -- Article 49)
    http://www.unhchr.ch/html/menu3/b/92.htm,
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/...es/1099279.stm
    http://www.jatonyc.org/UNresolutions.html,
    http://www.nakbainhebrew.org/index.php?lang=english,
    http://www.jewishcurrents.org/2003-jan-muraskin.htm

    Denial of family unification for Arabs

    In 2003, the Israeli Knesset enacted legislation that denies any possibility of formal residency status for Palestinians from the West Bank or Gaza who are married to Israeli citizens or residents. According to UCLA professor Saree Makdisi, "Israel's newly revised nationality law … prohibits Palestinian citizens of Israel from marrying Palestinians from the occupied territories and living with their spouses in Israel. The same law does not apply to Jewish Israelis who marry Jewish settlers living in the occupied territories. Interestingly, similar legislation had been proposed in South Africa at the peak of Apartheid, only to be rejected by that country's supreme court. Israel's nationality law, however, was endorsed by Israel's High Court just this year." (2006) The law is unconstitutional as it discriminates on the basis of national origin.
    http://www.acri.org.il/english-acri/...ory.asp?id=255.
    http://www.monabaker.com/pMachine/mo...=A2104_0_1_0_M,
    http://www.ifamericansknew.org/cur_sit/racism.html

    Unrecognized Arab Villages Denied Basic Services or Destroyed

    Many Palestinian villages, some predating the establishment of Israel, are unrecognized by the government, and thus receive no running water, electricity, or access roads. Some do not appear on maps. A number have been destroyed in recent years.
    http://www.shalomctr.org/node/382
    Approximately 450 Palestinian villages were destroyed after Israel declared its independence in 1948
    .http://www.palestineremembered.com/.
    215,000 Palestinians in 220 villages have no connection to a sewer system.
    http://www.peykarandeesh.org/noFarsi/Condition.html

    Limits on Arab growth

    Since 1948, scores of new communities have been founded for Jews, but very few for Palestinians, causing Israeli Arabs severe residential overcrowding. According to Israeli Ori Nir, Washington bureau chief for The Forward, "No Arab community has been created since 1948, except for towns created for Bedouins in the Negev, whereas something like 1000 towns have been created for Israeli Jews."

    http://www.fmep.org/analysis/article..._minority.html
    http://www.peykarandeesh.org/noFarsi/Condition.html
    In 2002, the Nature Reserve and National Park Authority presented to the Northern District Planning and Building Committee for a nature preserve and national park which would surround 5 Arab villages in northern Israel and border others. It included the provision that privately owned Arab land could be confiscated for this purpose. Restrictions would be placed on Arab farmers. The goal of this is to prevent further growth in these Arab communities.
    http://www.adalah.org/eng/intladvocacy/CESCR-land.pdf

    Confiscation of Arab Land for Jewish Use

    Land can be and is confiscated from Arab villages and made available for Jewish use. Susahan, a Jewish Israeli living in an Arab village inside Israel bears witness to this phenomenon in her book The Other Side of Israel.
    http://www.peykarandeesh.org/noFarsi/Condition.htm l

    Plans to "Judaize" the Arab areas of the Galilee

    The area of the Galilee in northern Israel is where many Israeli Arabs live. Some are descended from the earliest Christians, while others are Muslim. In September, 2001, the Israeli Government's Northern District Committee for Planning and Building issued a plan to "Judaize" the Galilee region, citing the presence of Arabs in that region as a problem. The plan restricts the development of industrial, commercial and development areas in Arab villages, and places industrial, commercial and tourism facilities in or near Jewish areas.
    http://www.adalah.org/eng/intladvocacy/CESCR-land.pdf

    Limits on Land leased to Arabs

    All land in Israel must be leased. It is not privately owned. Until recently, Israeli Arabs were not permitted to lease land from the Israeli Land Administration, which controls 93% of the arable land in Israel. This land is either state-owned (80%) or owned by the Jewish National Fund (13%). Much of it was expropriated from Arabs. In an effort to head off a legal challenge, the Attorney General announced that ILA should not discriminate; however, a deal was reached under which equally valued government land would be transferred to the Jewish National Fund for each lease of its land to Arabs. This would effectively keep at least the same amount of Israeli land in the hands of the Jewish National Fund.
    http://semitism.net/2005/02/09/OLD97

    Restricted access to good jobs for Arabs

    Service in the Israeli army is a prerequisite for the best private and public sector jobs in Israel. Most non-Jews other than Druze are not allowed to serve in the army so these jobs are not often available to Israeli Arabs. Arabs are thus denied the benefits that come from these jobs and from army service. However, religious Jews who do not serve in the army face no such discrimination and receive all benefits and opportunities accrued to those in army service.

    http://www.caabu.org/pdf/Israeli-Arabs-final.pdf,
    http://www.jfjfp.org/factsheets/arabsinisrael.htm
    According to a report by the US State Department, in 2004, only 3 percent of civil service employees in Israel were from the Arab sector.
    http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/hrrpt/2005/61690.htm

    Discrimination in public places

    Arab citizens of Israel are often discriminated against through denial of access to recreation spaces, swimming pools, water parks and other public places frequented by its Jewish citizens.
    http://www.law.nyu.edu/journals/jilp...ohen-Eliya.pdf
    Arab citizens of Israel have less "green space" available, even in mixed race towns inside Israel.
    http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi...0.1111/j.1467- 9663.2005.00474.x?cookieSet=1&jo urnalCode=tesg

    Discrimination at airports and train stations

    Arabs are frequently taken aside at Israel's airports and train stations and searched, often invasively. They are more likely to be detained or accompanied to the plane by security personnel. Most Jews normally travel without any difficulty, while Arab citizens of Israel often face aggressive questioning simply because of their ethnicity. There are exceptions. Israeli or international peace activists may also face delays or invasive searches, but Arabs face these regardless of political affiliation or activity.
    http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/796747.html
    http://www.adalah.org/newsletter/eng...hra-report.pdf.
    http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/827861.html
    http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/objects...?itemNo=851098
    http://www.peykarandeesh.org/noFarsi/Condition.html

    Failure to Protect Arab Citizens During Wartime

    Almost all Arab towns and villages in the northern part of Israel lack public bomb shelters, even though they have been constructed with varying degrees of adequacy in most Jewish communities. Similarly, the civil defense authorities failed to ensure that Arab communities had air raid sirens to warn inhabitants of incoming fire, though these are present in Jewish towns. As a result many people in Arab villages died in their streets during the Lebanon war while most Jews waited out the war in shelters, though some of these lacked air conditioning or other amenities.
    http://www.democracynow.org/article..../08/14/1358258,
    http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article5703.shtml
    http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satelli...2FJPArticle%2F
    During the war, civil defense officials issued emergency instructions to families about how to protect themselves -- on the radio and television, and in brochures -- only in Hebrew, though Arabic is one of Israel's two official languages.
    http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article5703.shtml

    Failure to Compensate Jewish and Arab Citizens Equally for War Damages

    After the Lebanon war, Arab villages were denied compensation for damages, though many Jewish neighborhoods received funds. Interest-free loans of up to $10,000 were available, but only to Jewish businessmen or those who had served in the Israeli army, which excludes almost the entire Arab population.
    http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/763244.html

    Destruction of Unrecognized Arab villages

    "The Bedouin citizens residing in the unrecognized villages of the Negev have for many years suffered from severe discrimination and marginalization; during this past year, they were the victims of particularly harsh enforcement policies -- aided by the amendment to the law that was enacted this year (the Public Land Law {Expulsion of Trespassers}) -- including the demolition of houses and the destruction of crops. While the Bedouin are subject to great pressure to leave their place of residence without a viable alternative or adequate compensation, these same state authorities who are applying the pressure are allocating large plots of land to Jews only, and empowering the local Jewish municipal authorities with the authority to "guard the land" from its original occupants." Association for Civil Rights in Israel 2006 Annual Report on Human Rights
    http://www.acri.org.il/english-acri/...ory.asp?id=244

    Poisoning, uprooting of Bedouin Israeli citizens' crops

    The government of Israel has sent planes to spread poison on Bedouin crops, poisoning livestock and causing health problems among the population. By some accounts, this practice was halted in 2006. More often now these crops are destroyed by Israeli authorities turning them under.
    http://www.oxfam.org.uk/what_we_do/w...el/bedouin.htm
    http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/S...&itemNo=275276
    http://web.amnesty.org/library/index/engmde150332004
    http://www.adalah.org/eng/intladvocacy/CESCR-land.pdf
    http://www.icahd.org/eng/articles.as...=2&article=336
    Israeli Anthem Discriminates

    The 20% of Israelis who are Muslim or Christian must extol the Jewish spirit when singing Israel's national anthem. The song begins with the words "In the Jewish heart A Jewish spirit still sings," (Some translations say "As long as deep in the heart, The soul of a Jew yearns" ) It speaks of 2,000 years of the Jewish people yearning to be free in this land. No mention is made of other religions.
    http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/850285.html
    http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/...y/hatikva.html
    http://www.science.co.il/Israel-Anthem.asp

    Israeli Flag Discriminates

    The flag of Israel displays the religious symbol of Judaism, though one fifth of its citizens are Christian or Muslim. Their religious symbols are not displayed on the flag or on public buildings. The Star of David on Israel's flag symbolically tells Palestinian citizens whose ancestors have lived here for hundreds of years : "You do not belong."
    http://imeu.net/news/article004053.shtml

    No Constitutional Protection for Minorities

    Israel has no constitution to protect the rights of the 24.5% of its citizens who are non-Jewish. It openly declares itself "a state of the Jewish people'" though a quarter of all Israelis are non-Jewish. Many of their families lived here for generations before Israel was established. Many believe there is an inherent contradiction between Israel's claims to be a democratic state and its actions to keep it a Jewish state without defining equal rights for all citizens.
    http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/981336.html
    http://www.mossawacenter.org/default...p=2&fl=25&pg=9
    http://www.wcl.american.edu/hrbrief/...tml/arabmi.htm

    Unequal application of the law to Jews and non-Jews

    "A dual system of law discriminates between Jewish Israelis and indigenous Palestinians based on a constructed status of "Jewish nationality." This prejudicial application of law is apparent in all processes of the legal system, from the rights to information and fair trial to detention and prison treatment."
    http://www.ohchr.org/english/bodies/...-PartIII-1.pdf
    (Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights)

    Government leaders talk openly of expelling Arabs from Israel.

    Christians have lived in the land that became Israel for 2000 years, Muslims for more than 1300 years. Now these citizens are referred to as a demographic threat, or "the Arab Problem." The most offensive of these is Avigdor Lieberman, recently appointed to a key cabinet post by Ehud Olmert. When the first Arab minister was appointed to the government recently, Lieberman called on Defense Minister Amir Peretz to resign. Another official said "This is assimilation…I call on the prime minister not to approve this appointment to protect the state of Israel's interest as a Jewish and Zionist state." Lieberman said that Israel's Arab minority was a "problem" which required "separation," declaring that Israel must redraw its map to "exchange" part of the Arab population, in order to create a more "homogeneous Jewish state." Almost a third of Israel's Jewish citizens favor transferring Arabs out of Israel, and 60% think they should be encouraged to leave.
    http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/812447.html
    http://www.informationclearinghouse....ticle10522.htm

    Will love to see the "proud Zionists" reply to all this. EDIT: Apologies, forget to mention:

    Unequal Water Allocation

    Palestinians in the West Bank have access to only one fifth the amount of water consumed by Israelis, despite the fact that most of the aquifer used by both groups lies beneath Palestinian land. Israel has taken 83% of the water underlying the West Bank for its own residents and those of the settlements, leaving the Palestinians with desperate shortages. Palestinians have no access to water from the Jordan Basin, all of which is taken by Israelis. Most Palestinians are not allowed to drill new wells, and thus must buy water from Israel to compensate partially for this inequity.

    As of June 2006, some 215,000 Palestinians in 220 villages lived in communities without a running-water network. In Palestinian towns that do have running water, a rotating system is often in place which restricts flow at various times to divide available water among the villages. Due to the increased demand for water during the hot season, Merkorot [Israel's water company] discriminates and increases the amount of water supplied to the settlers, at the expense of supply to Palestinian towns. Reduction at times when water consumption increases is accomplished by closing the valve of the main water pipelines through which water flows to Palestinian towns.

    http://www.wws.princeton.edu/~wws401c/)

    http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn5037.html,

    http://www.btselem.org/English/Press...s/20010805.asp,

    http://www.btselem.org/English/Water/Index.asp

    http://www.btselem.org/english/Water...mption_Gap.asp

    http://www.btselem.org/Download/2000...lution_Eng.doc

    http://www.thenation.com/docprint.mh...26&s=taamallah

    Israeli soldiers sometimes fire at Palestinian water tanks, rendering them unusable. A Presbyterian minister describing his visit to a Palestinian village wrote: "Water is precious, and there is little of it. Due to the lack of a supply, and lack of access to their wells, the village has a very restricted supply. The Council has divided the village into 3 sections, and each section gets water in its pipes for 2 hours, three times a week. It is then that people are able to fill up the tanks which are on the tops of their houses, and this is their supply for the next three days. Recently, we were told, on 3 successive days Israeli soldiers came in to the village and fired indiscriminately at water tanks. We were shown pictures of many which had been punctured by bullets. Most of the bullet holes were in the upper parts of the tanks, as the soldiers could not see the lower parts. No justification by an occupying army has to be given for such actions -- but one wonders what they achieve. The one tank that they found at ground level, they shot in the bottom, making sure that any water in it would be lost. Next opportunity to fill up might be 3 days away." Similar army vandalism to water tanks occurred at the Al Sharooq School for blind children near Bethlehem. Christians from a church in Jerusalem had to take water to the school until the holes in the tanks could be repaired.
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    (Original post by george54)
    Yes, with all their powerful media influence and the billions of pounds they have to waste on propaganda. It's not as if they barely have enough money for food and water.
    It doesn't take billions of dollars to claim (and make it seem) a dead Hamas warrior an innocent civilian. This happens, believe it or not. The international organisations are only human and in such chaotic environment finding out the truth is quite difficult.
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    (Original post by DJkG.1)
    "Watch it!"

    That is a command is it?

    Well, do you want a reading list from me with a "read it" command? :rolleyes:

    Fine, I will watch it in a bit. Then I'll tell you what is right and wrong with it / your interpretation of it.
    Not a command, more of a recommendation.

    And yes, feel free to tell me that.
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    (Original post by Squeegy)
    It doesn't take billions of dollars to claim (and make it seem) a dead Hamas warrior an innocent civilian. This happens, believe it or not. The international organisations are only human and in such chaotic environment finding out the truth is quite difficult.


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    (Original post by ForeverIsMyName)
    Does Hamas deliberately target civilians to fulfil it's agenda? Yes, it does.

    Does Israel? I don't really know. Do you have any examples of it doing so?
    I wouldn't go as far as saying that it target's civilians and only civilians. I'm sure given the chance, it would rather kill an IDF solder rather than a civilian.

    Take a look at the casualties - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_war

    There have been reports of IDF solders using Palestinians as human shields and also shooting water tanks.

    I see no difference between the IDF, Hamas, the British Army, the IRA and the US army.
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    (Original post by JakePearson)
    The video is that of a senior British soldier explaining the Gaza War. Watch it. Or would you rather just plough on with your own bias?
    In the 'related videos' section, there was this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvmcM...eature=related

    If you're going to watch one from 1 side then you might aswell watch this aswell
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    (Original post by Sakujo)
    Suppose the French firstly cut off all supplies to Germany, how would Germany react?
    Now that is a good question. But I believe I asked you a question too.
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    (Original post by Squeegy)
    It doesn't take billions of dollars to claim (and make it seem) a dead Hamas warrior an innocent civilian. This happens, believe it or not. The international organisations are only human and in such chaotic environment finding out the truth is quite difficult.
    And yet, the Israelis (and their supportive Jews worldwide) spare no expense releasing "information" and employing internet talk-backers to ensure that we find out the "truth" from only the perspective they would like us to know. :rolleyes:
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    Are you forgetting about the Korean War or Vietnam - where the US, China and the Soviet Union fought against one another? Moreover, each side, by the time the Vietnam War came about had WMDs.
    I didn't explain myself very well. There hasn't been a significant conflict involving whole empires, significant amounts of people/countries, etc in over 60 years. Sure there's been conflicts but in the grand scheme of things they've been relatively small.
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    "Just as antisemitism denies Jews their rights as individuals in society, anti-Zionism attacks the Jewish people as a nation, on the international level. Similar to the use of "the Jew" as a scapegoat for many of society's problems, Israel has been singled out for special condemnation in the international arena.

    "The goal of anti-Zionism is to undermine the legitimacy of Israel, thereby denying the Jewish people their place in the community of nations. Denigration of Zionism is therefore an attack on Israel's basic right to exist as a nation equal to all other nations, in violation of one of the fundamental principles of international law.

    "Moreover, it is no coincidence that the recent censure of Israel in international forums and the media has been accompanied by a sharp increase in antisemitic incidents in many parts of the world."




    I doubt Hamas were big on ceasefires.



    To root out terrorists. The IDF took the utmost care and precision in their operations.



    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...841604,00.html



    Source? Israeli figures? UN figures? It'd help.



    They didn't. In Israel you mean? The same Israel that mandates 15% of seats in their parliament be filled by Arabs?


    They didn't. They gave them 20 million more gallons than was agreed in the water treaty.
    First of all, don't reply back with a quote, have you not heard that every proverb has an equal anti-proverb ?

    “If they don’t stop after we kill 100, then we must kill a thousand,” said Shmuel Eliyahu. “And if they do not stop after 1,000 then we must kill 10,000. If they still don’t stop we must kill 100,000, even a million. Whatever it takes to make them stop."



    If Hamas were not big on ceasefires, why did they accept it? Or better yet, why did Israel not hold fire after killing 500 people?




    So you justify killing about *gets figures for you petty argument*


    PCHR - 1,417 dead, 491 armed. Armed - policemen - 255.

    IDF - 1,166 dead, 709 armed.

    Armed - militants/policemen, people with guns yo.

    Do the math sucka, as I am bad at math.




    Next, all the article says is that Israel denies it. Written by a biased newspaper.



    Yes Israel banned the Arab parties,

    http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1054867.html


    On the topic of H20
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...r-1809948.html


    How do you like them apples and honey :p:
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    he wasnt
    Yes, you just proved me wrong. After all, nobody ever took a photograph that made the situation seem different to what it was. But, yes, certainly things like these happen. At least I don't doubt it.
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    Seriously I'm confused. I've just been negged for starting this thread, is that even allowed
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    (Original post by ch0c0h01ic)
    I didn't explain myself very well. There hasn't been a significant conflict involving whole empires, significant amounts of people/countries, etc in over 60 years. Sure there's been conflicts but in the grand scheme of things they've been relatively small.
    When compared to WW2, then yes, the Korean War and the Vietnam war do look rather small, however they could've easily escalated into something far worse than WW2 - a nuclear war(i.e the end of humanity).
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    POW

    All I can say is, holy ****, you deserve some sort of award.
 
 
 
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