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    (Original post by blinkbelle)
    Then read the frickin' source!?
    I did, and I have in the past too.

    I would find extracts from the Journal of Applied Physiology but you don't seem to be getting my thread of argument here.

    Let's just agree to disagree, K?
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    (Original post by Muddy91)
    Yes they can!!! cigarettes are ******* taxed to the max!
    But its not in anyway possible to grow tobacco for persnol use.
    Also - people cannot profit from growing and selling tobbaco unless it is in bulk.

    However I am still for legalisation ofcourse, I was just giving the counter opinion.
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    (Original post by blinkbelle)
    To everyone who is saying 'yes' - you do realise that cannabis is a much less harmful (short term and long term) 'drug' than alcohol or nicotine?
    http://www.saferchoice.org/content/view/24/53/

    don't forget to cite something if your going to back a drug :p:



    But i don't take cannabis for the same reason i don't smoke - having a dependency on a drug in social situations is just weak. I enjoy alcohol to the extent where you will enjoy a recreational spliff, but the problem is if you start using it to 'fix problems' because it will make them worse.

    I personally just want to limit my drug usage as much as possible and alcohol is cheaper and legal and is nice in sensible amounts.


    Don't worry about the health effects, because it is actually healthy to do drugs occasionally (even alcohol) http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/abstr...;319/7224/1523

    It is when you start smoking to socialise and you become dependent on the drug to socialise. It also doesn't help doing them in disgusting environments, my last housemates used to do weed in our vile basement which had hundreds of used cigarettes on the floor. Really scatty and they were smoking nearly every day to escape from the problems of life - that ***** people up!
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    (Original post by DarkWhite)
    I know.

    The OP isn't asking about alcohol though, so what's the relevance?

    The relevance being the OP probably expected balanced advice and not that of a prude. From you original comment it wasn't clear whether you were a prude or an idiot. It has now become evident that you are a prude and so the balance is returned.
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    (Original post by GottaLovePhysics! :))
    But its not in anyway possible to grow tobacco for persnol use.
    Also - people cannot profit from growing and selling tobbaco unless it is in bulk.

    However I am still for legalisation ofcourse, I was just giving the counter opinion.
    http://www.tobaccoseed.co.uk/How_to_Grow_Tobacco.html
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    (Original post by DJkG.1)
    I did, and I have in the past too.

    I would find extracts from the Journal of Applied Physiology but you don't seem to be getting my thread of argument here.

    Let's just agree to disagree, K?
    Find them then. I refuse to agree with you, you obviously haven't read the source because on page it it clearly shows in a graph that alcohol should be class A, tobacco class B and weed class C if you're talking in terms of social and physical harms caused.
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    (Original post by Wardy23)
    Thats like saying "salt damages your arteries"

    Yes it does...in large amounts. Salt is perfectly healthy in moderation just not if you eat 12 bags of crisps a day and Big-Macs every meal. Same goes for most things including Cannabis. Moderation = Good. Excessive use = Very bad.
    This is a faulty analogy. Salt is necessary for basic biochemical processes--we'd die if we didn't have it, and the water poisoning mentioned elsewhere results from an imbalance of electrolytes.

    No one needs cannabis to survive, so while it won't cause particularly severe harm in moderation, it isn't necessary to consume it at all. (Alcohol isn't necessary, either, though some kinds of alcohol consumed in moderation can provide health benefits--the same has not, to my knowledge, been proved of cannabis.)
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    (Original post by n00)
    The relevance being the OP probably expected balanced advice and not that of a prude. From you original comment it wasn't clear whether you were a prude or an idiot. It has now become evident that you are a prude and so the balance is returned.
    Not at all. I could say that eating a sheet of paper once a week is unlikely to do any significant damage, but it's not worth the risks. Alcohol has nothing to do with what the OP is asking. I'm not giving my views on alcohol or eating paper though. They're asking is smoking weed once a week is likely to do any damage, so let's address that question maybe. It's not difficult.
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    (Original post by blinkbelle)
    Find them then. I refuse to agree with you, you obviously haven't read the source because on page it it clearly shows in a graph that alcohol should be class A, tobacco class B and weed class C if you're talking in terms of social and physical harms caused.
    Oh dear God. :facepalm:

    YES! I know it shows these graphs... I know it advocates the harms of cannabis to be below those for alcohol / tobacco (not nicotine though which is what you also said but that's besides my point here).

    But what you fail to understand is that the source you cited here is the result of ONE scientific study, and the collection of views of ONE group of scientists in this field. It is a point of view in itself, it is not "The one and only source of truth."

    You would win the argument if I disagreed that your source advocated what you say it does, as then you could show me what the source says and then I would be wrong.

    But I'm arguing that you cannot be so sure of your source's data to make such broad and widespread conclusions which you seem to treat as unassailable and unquestionable Gospel truths.

    I quit here... I foresee that I won't get anywhere. :rolleyes:
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    Better things to spend money on IMO.. Not that I would know how much a roll or whatever you call it costs, anyway :p:
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    (Original post by jjarvis)
    This is a faulty analogy. Salt is necessary for basic biochemical processes--we'd die if we didn't have it, and the water poisoning mentioned elsewhere results from an imbalance of electrolytes.

    No one needs cannabis to survive, so while it won't cause particularly severe harm in moderation, it isn't necessary to consume it at all. (Alcohol isn't necessary, either, though some kinds of alcohol consumed in moderation can provide health benefits--the same has not, to my knowledge, been proved of cannabis.)
    Whether we need it to survive or not is irrelevant. My point is that you can't say "It can cause damage therefore it is bad". My point to the OP was that If he uses Cannabis in moderation then he will be fine. It doesn't need to provide health benefits as long as it doesn't have any detrimental effects. Cannabis has been proven to help with cancer i think. As a secondary thing to chemotherapy. Don't hold me to that though as I'm not quite sure.
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    Look, just chill out. Smoking it occasionally is not going to hurt you. Obviously it's not going to keep you as healthy as if you didn't smoke it at all, but it won't kill you.
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    (Original post by CD005)
    I was just wondering seeing on average bout every other weekend i'd go out with some mates, have a bit of laugh & get baked.
    Would this be damaging to my health in a major way at all? ...or even just psychologically come to that.

    I haven't done many times before either
    It may do it may not. I know of friends who do occasionally take it and have had nothing bad happen to them, but there are stories in the news of people who have gotten seriously ill from taking drugs for the first time. Overall though it's probably not a good idea.
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    (Original post by jjarvis)
    This is a faulty analogy. Salt is necessary for basic biochemical processes--we'd die if we didn't have it, and the water poisoning mentioned elsewhere results from an imbalance of electrolytes.

    No one needs cannabis to survive, so while it won't cause particularly severe harm in moderation, it isn't necessary to consume it at all. (Alcohol isn't necessary, either, though some kinds of alcohol consumed in moderation can provide health benefits--the same has not, to my knowledge, been proved of cannabis.)
    Cannabis is probably the best and most multifunctioning medicines on the planet. It also contains anti-psychotics and reduces stress.
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    (Original post by blinkbelle)
    Find them then. I refuse to agree with you, you obviously haven't read the source because on page it it clearly shows in a graph that alcohol should be class A, tobacco class B and weed class C if you're talking in terms of social and physical harms caused.
    That really only depends on how you rank each harm.
    DJkG.1 does have a point but there is very little actual scientific evidence for the harms i assume he is referring to just a lot of sometimes very poorly carried out statistical research.
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    (Original post by DJkG.1)
    Oh dear God.

    YES! I know it shows these graphs... I know it advocates the harms of cannabis to be below those for alcohol / tobacco (not nicotine though which is what you also said but that's besides my point here).

    But what you fail to understand is that the source you cited here is the result of ONE scientific study, and the collection of views of ONE group of scientists in this field. It is a point of view in itself, it is not "The one and only source of truth."

    You would win the argument if I disagreed that your source advocated what you say it does, as then you could show me what the source says and then I would be wrong.

    But I'm arguing that you cannot be so sure of your source's data to make such broad and widespread conclusions which you seem to treat as unassailable and unquestionable Gospel truths.

    I quit here... I foresee that I won't get anywhere.
    To consume nicotine you need to smoke tobacco. Nobody ever goes out and just buys patches for the sake of it. As I said already, your sources bring into question just how dangerous cannabis is, even if those sources are true and it is more harmful cannabis is still well below nicotine and tobacco in the harm league tables by anyones standard.
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    (Original post by Elipsis)
    Cannabis is probably the best and most multifunctioning medicines on the planet. It also contains anti-psychotics and reduces stress.
    Care to provide a peer-reviewed source for this claim? I'm disinclined to leap to agree about cannabis with someone who has a cannabis leaf as their avatar.
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    (Original post by Wardy23)
    Whether we need it to survive or not is irrelevant. My point is that you can't say "It can cause damage therefore it is bad". My point to the OP was that If he uses Cannabis in moderation then he will be fine. It doesn't need to provide health benefits as long as it doesn't have any detrimental effects. Cannabis has been proven to help with cancer i think. As a secondary thing to chemotherapy. Don't hold me to that though as I'm not quite sure.
    Cannabis can have detrimental effects, particularly if it's smoked. What seems to be missing throughout this discussion is the fact that consuming any substance poses certain risks. Risk is an ineradicable part of life--we have to decide how much risk we'll tolerate. So, while a person might tolerate the detrimental effects of cannabis, that does not mean the detrimental effect doesn't exist. I don't particularly care about cannabis consumption, but you can't compare consuming cannabis with consuming salt--one's necessary for biological functioning, the other is not.
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    (Original post by jjarvis)
    Care to provide a peer-reviewed source for this claim? I'm disinclined to leap to agree about cannabis with someone who has a cannabis leaf as their avatar.

    http://www.ukcia.org/research/Cannab...iPsychotic.pdf
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    You'll be 'right.
 
 
 
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