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    They're not necessarry, any more than are night clubs, casinos, or strip clubs, but if people want to go to them then they should have to choice of doing so. Creating laws to ban us from having choices about the decisions we make absolves us of morality. We should be allowed to go to faith schools if we want to, for the same reason that we should be given the choice about doing other things. I also think that faith schools should have the choice of allowing only religious people to attend them. Children need to learn discipline and morals from authority, while they are too young to be able to make their minds up for themselves. When they grow up they can make their own minds up about things. Without discipline and good teaching, children run wild in the streets, behave like chavs, and show no respect to anyone. Faith schools, irrespective of whether the religion itself is true, would not in general have a harmful affect on society, were they more widespread.
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    (Original post by Pink Bullets)
    What do you mean by 'the opportunity to practice their faith while at school'? If you mean they're allowed to pray during the normal breaks then okay... but all pupils can do that if they're so inclined. If you mean that they have designated 'prayer times' or something, then that is wrong. What if some pupils don't have a faith? At the very least, blatant waste of educational time should not be state-funded.
    Like mass after school which is completely voluntary (so essentially no one went). Or voluntary mass at 8am before school. I completely agree with you, there are some faith schools that do have designated prayer times where everyone has to pray - those schools should fund themselves.
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    (Original post by Wardy23)
    I'd say they're...what's the opposite of necessary?

    As far as 'keeping it alive' is concerned, religion can go to hell! (see what I did there!)

    I don't think it's always the case but I think faith schools and faith in general can be damaging to education. Especially scientific education.
    Unnecessary...?
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    Are religious buildings necessary? No. Its all ******** used to brainwash the next generation. Not only does it segregate communities but it leads people to waste their lives.
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    (Original post by Get Cape.Wear Cape.Fly.)
    Just lie? :o:
    seriously, it's crazy.. i know people who've applied there and you have to have references from loads of people, no-one gets in without firm proof!
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    i went to a c of e primary school and everyone tended to ignore all the religion stuff.

    The comprehensive phased it out when I got to year 8 so we had a christian society but it wasn't prominent. I'm not religious so I tended to miss out all those things like autumn services etc.
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    (Original post by annab1684)
    seriously, it's crazy.. i know people who've applied there and you have to have references from loads of people, no-one gets in without firm proof!
    Ah, I suppose it depends on your contacts too.
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    Ridiculously over-funded.
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    In my personal opinion, I don't think they're necessary, noone should be forced to go to an environment in which they will not fully integrate because of their beliefs, surely this would be (at least minorly) detrimental to the chance of success. Either way, I don't believe in a God, and find the concept of religion archaic and outdated.
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    (Original post by xarcul)
    Unnecessary...?
    Hahaha.

    How stupid do i look now?!?

    I'm honestly not normally that dense. Blonde moment.
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    Of course they are, some parents don't want their children to be exposed and pressured to do things that have become socially permissible in society.
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    I went to a C of E primary because the state primary was full.

    So if the faith school hadn't been there, I wouldn't have gone to school! It was very religious though- communion in assembly and all that. But I don't really think they should be influencing children as young as 4/5 especially since children are very easily influenced at that age. Perhaps it should be more like the French system where, as far as I know, religion is kept seperate from education.
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    It's unfair for people to think that all faith schools brainwash people with the particular religion.
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    Perfectly fine in the private sector, but not at all in the state sector. Unless they are essentially open to all anywey, such as my CofE primary school, which although a "christian" school let in all religions etc. Its the state schools which have a certain religion on their entry requirements i have a problem with.
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    (Original post by Diaz89)
    Of course they are, some parents don't want their children to be exposed and pressured to do things that have become socially permissible in society.
    So perhaps they try being good parents rather than shifting responsibility to someone else, i.e. teachers?

    Refusing to expose children to something will not make it go away - they'll be confronted with the state of modern society at some point, and they're going to have to deal with it. Better to arm and prepare them with the knowledge to survive and thrive than experience a culture shock after years of being sheltered and kept in a homogeneous cultural environment.
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    (Original post by SarahSmiles:))
    There are 7,000 faith schools in the UK at the moment - but are they actually necessary?? Do we need them to keep religion 'alive' and encourage children/young people to show religiosity in everyday life - or do they cause segregation and do not aid in education?

    What do you think??
    As with many other things in a democracy, education should remain secular.
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    (Original post by Leto)
    I went to a C of E primary because the state primary was full.

    So if the faith school hadn't been there, I wouldn't have gone to school! It was very religious though- communion in assembly and all that. But I don't really think they should be influencing children as young as 4/5 especially since children are very easily influenced at that age. Perhaps it should be more like the French system where, as far as I know, religion is kept seperate from education.
    I don't think anyone is advocating decreasing the number of schools in existence. I'm sure everyone agrees that the government has the responsibility to provide school places for all children; some of us just believe that these places shouldn't be religiously-affiliated.
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    (Original post by Aphotic Cosmos)
    No.

    Education should be secular, and parents should let their children make up their own damn mind as to what religion they want to pursue, if any.

    We say we're a society that allows self-determination, yet before we're even born choices are already being made for us that will have a profound effect on our existence.
    This. :yep:

    But in some areas the local faith schools (particularly C of E) are well known to be some the best schools in the area, which is often the reason parents are so keen to get their kids in there. My parents sent us to C of E schools for primary education, simply because they were the nearest/most dominant primary schools in the area, not because they wanted to indoctrinate us. Local village schools are often C of E, and where I grew up three of the four local primaries were C of E.

    I personally find it rather ridiculous though that being a member of another religion got you out of going to church and having prayers in assembly and the like, but not believing in God didn't. :rolleyes:

    Religiously affiliated schools shouldn't be allowed (or at the very least shouldn't be state-funded). They're just an excuse to try and brainwash kids at the age when they're most vulnerable.
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    I think yes, the "give kids a choice" brigade often mistake choice for atheism.
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    They serve little purpose other than as a way for parents to escape dodgy schools in their catchment areas to be honest. If as a parent you understand the way that the system works, then you are very likely to suddenly discover religion when your children are born as the most selective schools require a vicar/priest/rabbi etc to sign some kind of form about a family's attendance at church/synagogue etc.
 
 
 
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