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11) a) Show that log43=log2(3)log_43=log_2(\sqrt{3})
b) Hence or otherwise solve the simultaneous equations:
2log2y=log43+log2x2log_2y=log_43+log_2x
3y=9x3^y=9^x
x,y>0x,y > 0

I've done part a, but not sure how to start part b.
ViralRiver
11) a) Show that log43=log2(3)log_43=log_2(\sqrt{3})
b) Hence or otherwise solve the simultaneous equations:
2log2y=log43+log2x2log_2y=log_43+log_2x
3y=9x3^y=9^x
x,y>0x,y > 0

I've done part a, but not sure how to start part b.


I'd start with your second equation. From what you know of the laws of indices you should be able to get y in terms of x.
Reply 2
I can derive ylog3=xlog9ylog3=xlog9?
ViralRiver
I can derive ylog3=xlog9ylog3=xlog9?


Well, what's 9 in terms of 3?
Reply 4
3^2, but I don't see how that helps >< .

OOOHH!! y = 2x
ViralRiver
3^2, but I don't see how that helps >< .

OOOHH!! y = 2x


Grin! Now sub into your first equation and use the hint from a)
Reply 6
Ok, so I now have 2log2(2x)log2(x)=log2(3)2log_2(2x)-log_2(x)=log_2(\sqrt{3}) I'm not sure how to put everything in terms of x though.
ViralRiver
Ok, so I now have 2log2(2x)log2(x)=log2(3)2log_2(2x)-log_2(x)=log_2(\sqrt{3}) I'm not sure how to put everything in terms of x though.


Using the laws of logs, try and combine the left hand side into one log function.

a log x = log (x^a)

log b - log a = log (b/a)
ViralRiver
Ok, so I now have 2log2(2x)log2(x)=log2(3)2log_2(2x)-log_2(x)=log_2(\sqrt{3}) I'm not sure how to put everything in terms of x though.

do what the person above just said but be careful with the 2 in front of the first term, youll have to take it up as a power
Reply 9
Ahh ok, doing that I have x=34x=\frac{\sqrt{3}}{4}?
ViralRiver
Ahh ok, doing that I have x=34x=\frac{\sqrt{3}}{4}?



Why the question mark. Have faith, you got it right. You just need y now.
Reply 11
Ahh yes, got y and they're both right. I'm just stuck on the last question now.

12). a) Given that 3+2log2x=log2y3 + 2log_2x=log_2y, show that y=8x2y=8x^2.

Do I need to turn 3 into a logarithm, or is that unnecessary?
ViralRiver
Ahh yes, got y and they're both right. I'm just stuck on the last question now.

12). a) Given that 3+2log2x=log2y3 + 2log_2x=log_2y, show that y=8x2y=8x^2.

Do I need to turn 3 into a logarithm, or is that unnecessary?


There's no simple yes/no answer to that one. Do it, and see where you get (it will work it).
Reply 13
That's the thing, I'm not sure how to turn it into one >< . Because 3log33 \not= log3.
ViralRiver
That's the thing, I'm not sure how to turn it into one >< . Because 3log33 \not= log3.



You can write 3 as 3×log223\times\log_22 since log22\log_22 is equal to 1. And use that as the basis for conversion, using the rules previously stated.
Reply 15
Thanks ! I've just worked out parts b c and d from that so I must be getting the hang of it :P .

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