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    I was under the impression it was a sonnet and i have a presentation tomorrow and i can't anything to say about the format

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    Just say that Carol Ann Duffy is one of the worst "poets" that humans have ever had to study. If your teacher has any taste she will agree and give you an A.
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    It's a 14-line poem, therefore it's a sonnet.

    Look at how the lines are separated into groups; why are they broken apart, and what effect does it have? Look at how ideas are ordered within the poem, consider the same. Look at the sentence structure, the choice of words, and the imagery used to construct the poem.
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    (Original post by dbmag9)
    It's a 14-line poem, therefore it's a sonnet.

    Look at how the lines are separated into groups; why are they broken apart, and what effect does it have? Look at how ideas are ordered within the poem, consider the same. Look at the sentence structure, the choice of words, and the imagery used to construct the poem.
    its not a sonnet because the lines don't have 10 syllables?
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    (Original post by atheistwithfaith)
    Just say that Carol Ann Duffy is one of the worst "poets" that humans have ever had to study. If your teacher has any taste she will agree and give you an A.

    both my english teachers worship carol ann duffy so no way but i agree
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    (Original post by Frankiiee)
    its not a sonnet because the lines don't have 10 syllables?
    A sonnet is not a sonnet because it has fourteen lines, or because it has ten syllables per line. Fourteen lines is a requirement, but is not sufficient alone to make something a sonnet. Sonnets generally have ten syllables per line, but I have seen them with 12 before. A sonnet is mainly distinguished by the rhyme scheme. There are Petrarchan sonnets, and Spenserian sonnets, and several other types, but they first 8 lines have one rhyme scheme, and then it changes for the last 6 (or 4 and 2). The first 8 normally set some issue, which is resolved in the last six. This part isn't a requirement, but is often the case. If it doesn't rhyme, then it isn't a sonnet. Also, some rhyme schemes are not allowed in sonnets, they can't have the same rhyme scheme throughout.
    I also don't like Carol Anne Duffy, but her poem Demeter is about the return of Persephone, after her abduction by Hades. She returns for the spring (and is a personification of the spring), and goes into the underworld during autumn and winter. Demeter is not a sonnet because it doesn't rhyme properly.
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    only the last two lines rhyme so does that count?
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    (Original post by Frankiiee)
    its not a sonnet because the lines don't have 10 syllables?
    (Original post by Frankiiee)
    both my english teachers worship carol ann duffy so no way but i agree
    Traditionally, English sonnets have been in iambic pentameter, so 10 syllables per line, usually with a strict rhyme scheme to boot. However, you can use the term sonnet to refer to any 14-line poem (if someone complains, point out that one of Shakespeare's sonnets is not in iambic pentameter). You might want to clarify that it's a much more modern variant on the sonnet than what might be expected - indeed, the form itself has implications for analysis of the poem: what topical connotations do sonnets have, and how does the poem use these?

    Carol-Ann Duffy's not a bad poet, although like any poet some poems are better than others. It seems to have become fashionable to disparage her for no reason, though. :shifty:
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    my god you people are clever
    thanks ever so much
 
 
 
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