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    Not all jobs require uni degrees, therefore not all people need to go to uni.
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    I think a lot of the demand is a bit artificial really; people with no enthusiasm nor ability for academic study, but nevertheless going to University because they feel it essential in order to get a "good job", when really those are jobs that don't really require a University degree. For instance, my Mum's god daughter did a Law degree at Sheffield Hallam, despite not being particularly interested in it, nor good at it, and now works for the Tesco graduate management scheme, whereas, really, you don't need a degree in order to be able to do that job. So making more jobs accessible to those without degrees would perhaps help to lessen the numbers.
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    Yes, everybody knows it
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    I'm a bit on the fence about it I suppose. I think some people though need to evaluate what they want to do after their degree what they want it to lead too. 'Cause most people I know don't have a clue and are in their last year of their degree.
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    (Original post by hamster33)
    i was talking to a quite intelligent person, he told me how he was planning on doing an apprenticeship to be an electrician. i was a bit surprised. he then explained the amount of money he would make and then the lack of student debt, and how he thought he would not enjoy the university environment. and by the end i thought this i had changed my mind, yet everyone else in the class was help bent on thinking a degree was the best for everyone.
    Hmm. I know this guy who is training to be an electrician too. I don't think he's thick, he just didn't want to go to uni. Obviously student debt didn't come into it for him though since he's Scottish. He's also built for the job too nice and strong and 6 ft 4 :p: Anyways, back to the main point, I'm not too fussed anyway. If a person wants to go to uni let them.
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    (Original post by FinishHim!)
    Law is a con? Economics is a con?
    Since when was Law a social science? Its a BA
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    (Original post by Crimsonchilli)
    Not all jobs require uni degrees, therefore not all people need to go to uni.
    Not all women are fertile, therefore not all women need to have sex.

    Its the same pathetic logic.
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    (Original post by FXX)
    Too many worthless degrees and too many people going to uni so they don't have to go to work. Yes, it is a problem.
    This.

    There are ridiculous amounts of somewhat worthless degrees about these days, encouraging people to attend university who 'ordinarily' wouldn't. I don't see the problem with educating the nation, but it just seems that half of the people picking up these less prestigious degrees are just neglecting this and nabbing the first job they find. But hey, Im just a kid; I don't know?
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    (Original post by microfatcat)
    Is it just me or does that course look like a GREAT course? :O it shouldn't be something you learn at uni though...
    Its not a degree.

    Are you saying universities can only award degrees?
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    (Original post by FinishHim!)
    Also, the 'degrees' of recent times would just move on to something else, as candidates would need something to differentiate themselves. Perhaps masters or PHDs, thus more students in debt.
    Yes that's what's happening. Why do you think most science students do MSci rather than BSc?
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    about the right amount - shouldn't keep expanding though
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    (Original post by HJV)
    Yeah, all that politics stuff, pointless. I mean what do we need the United Nations for, just scrap it. Diplomatic service? Nah, we don't need to maintain relations with other countries.
    You don't need a degree in politics to do any of those. Physics with Theoretical Astrophysics is just as good as PPE to get into it.
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    (Original post by YL_LDN)
    Lol i saw a course called 'circus studies' at Bath Spa University i think. Would love to have applied to it as a piss take lmao. Shows how ****** up the university system is, the degree wouldn't even be worth the paper it was written on!
    Because its not a degree?
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    (Original post by Quady)
    Since when was Law a social science? Its a BA
    LLB, mainly.

    And I was referring to his point that anything other than sciences aren't worth it.
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    (Original post by Rosamund123)
    at my school, everyone was encouraged to go to university, whether they really wanted to or not. and people who wanted to leave and get a job were generally looked down on. I think the schools know that the more people they get into university, the better they'll look - whether it's right for the person or not.
    (this was a comprehensive btw)
    IA. So many people were pushed into going to university - "it will guarantee you a good job!!" - and half of them are dropping out because it is too hard for them...
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    (Original post by inksplodge)
    IA. So many people were pushed into going to university - "it will guarantee you a good job!!" - and half of them are dropping out because it is too hard for them...
    If by half you mean 6-7% :P
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    (Original post by Quady)
    If by half you mean 6-7% :P
    I'm talking about people at my college :tongue: A lot of them achieved Cs only but went anyway when really they probably would've been better off getting a job. They wanted to go for the 'uni experience'.
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    Definitely. I know people who have "gone to uni" and have wasted 4 years of their life in the SU, but still don't know where the library or the careers service is. The sad thing is these people will get 1sts because their course content is pathetically under par, and their marking scheme awards As if you can carry a pencil to the exam.
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    (Original post by ish90an)
    Definitely. I know people who have "gone to uni" and have wasted 4 years of their life in the SU, but still don't know where the library or the careers service is. The sad thing is these people will get 1sts because their course content is pathetically under par, and their marking scheme awards As if you can carry a pencil to the exam.
    Why is it sad? If the course is rubbish they won't get a good job so what does it matter what their degree class is?
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    (Original post by AshMcD)
    You're not related to the sixty symbols website by any chance are you?

    That is pretty much the finest you tube channel I have ever come across. And the Periodic videos are also immense.

    Sorry for the OT. Personally, whilst I think there probably are too many people at university doing degrees that are not really worth while, far from detracting your position at post grad it may strengthen it.

    If you've done physics/maths/chemistry/other "respected" degree you're more likely to stand out in a field of media and film study post grads.
    No that's wrong.

    Which media company in their right mind would hire a physics student over someone who has actually studied the subject. But if they want to do it then fair doos.

    "Oh hey I need someone who knows a lot about media for this job"

    "I dont know anything about media but I did a physics course"

    "Ok thats cool but my job isnt physics related, but I'm going to give you the job anyway purely on the fact that you have a respected degree and I'm going to reject this dude who has all the skills I want but didnt do a maths degree which I dont need anyway."


    Likewise a media student wouldn't get a physics job over a physics student. People have a retarded way of thinking how employers think.

    However I wouldn't do a media studies degree, but that's me, I think Uni is a place for specialisation of a subject your interested in.
 
 
 
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