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    I don't why you would bother doing that? That just means it's a waste of a year and you have nothing to show for it.

    Besides I'd want to achieve better grades than the ones they asked for. If not for them, for myself.
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    If you're playing by the book then as has been said an unconditional is still subject to you completing what you said you would, so that if your situation changes then you should contact the university to ensure that the offer still stands. As has also been said, A-levels are considered by most employers (certainly most graduate schemes) so they're definitely worth finishing. You have the whole of the summer to earn some cash.
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    (Original post by F1 fanatic)
    If you're playing by the book then as has been said an unconditional is still subject to you completing what you said you would, so that if your situation changes then you should contact the university to ensure that the offer still stands. As has also been said, A-levels are considered by most employers (certainly most graduate schemes) so they're definitely worth finishing. You have the whole of the summer to earn some cash.
    I admit I am confused. A conditional offer is subject to you completing what you said would would do. Otherwise the unconditional offer you described, would simply be, a conditional offer?

    Sorry if I'm muddled up hah, I just got the impression that an Unconditional means you definitely have a place no matter what, unless you decide to decline it. Otherwise you have to meet conditions of an offer... making it a conditional offer?

    So if I go by my logic, an unconditional offer means you get in no matter what. Though I personally think you should grab as many qualifications as you can, A-levels come in handy in future life as well you know. There's a chance I will be getting an Unconditional offer for one of my top two choices, after doing a scholarship exam, but I'm not going to suddenly leave/slack off on my A-levels, I wouldn't risk it after the work I've put into my subjects so far!
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    (Original post by FTstudies)
    I admit I am confused. A conditional offer is subject to you completing what you said would would do. Otherwise the unconditional offer you described, would simply be, a conditional offer?

    Sorry if I'm muddled up hah, I just got the impression that an Unconditional means you definitely have a place no matter what, unless you decide to decline it. Otherwise you have to meet conditions of an offer... making it a conditional offer?

    So if I go by my logic, an unconditional offer means you get in no matter what. Though I personally think you should grab as many qualifications as you can, A-levels come in handy in future life as well you know. There's a chance I will be getting an Unconditional offer for one of my top two choices, after doing a scholarship exam, but I'm not going to suddenly leave/slack off on my A-levels, I wouldn't risk it after the work I've put into my subjects so far!
    Yeh, I totally get that. So by the uni wanting me to stay at college they have made a condition to my offer meaning it is not unconditional...
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    (Original post by sbarrie2)
    Yeh, I totally get that. So by the uni wanting me to stay at college they have made a condition to my offer meaning it is not unconditional...
    Exactly. You said you've had an unconditional offer with conditions? To be honest it may just be a mistake on their part. My friend got an unconditional offer for history at Kent, 1 day later it turned to conditional, obviously they made an error!

    But I'm not sure, it could be the same in your case or not!
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    (Original post by sbarrie2)
    Yeh, I totally get that. So by the uni wanting me to stay at college they have made a condition to my offer meaning it is not unconditional...
    It's unconditional on the basis of what you told them. If what you told them is not correct, then in theory your offer becomes void. Hypothetically they are making you an offer on the basis of what you tell them, they assume that you will complete your education because that is what you said you would do. It is you who have broken the terms of the contract, so to speak, because you didn't do what you said you were going to do.

    Realistically, they're unlikely to decline you on the basis of this, but like i said if you are doing it by the book then you should inform them that you are changing your status (if you decide to do so) and then they can consider if they still wish to keep the offer valid.
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    (Original post by sbarrie2)
    Yeh, I totally get that. So by the uni wanting me to stay at college they have made a condition to my offer meaning it is not unconditional...
    F1 Fanatic is quite right. Think of it this way: Universities are entitled to rely on everything you declare in your application as a commitment on your part; this is completely in accordance with the rules of the UCAS system. The rules clearly state that candidates must notify UCAS and the universities of any change, and that offers can be amended or withdrawn if such changes are made. Don't confuse the conditions of an offer with these conditions of the process. An offer is made (either conditional or unconditional) but subject to you adhering to the rules.

    You would be foolish in the extreme to drop what you declared you would do without first consulting the university concerned.
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    (Original post by Good bloke)
    F1 Fanatic is quite right. Think of it this way: Universities are entitled to rely on everything you declare in your application as a commitment on your part; this is completely in accordance with the rules of the UCAS system. The rules clearly state that candidates must notify UCAS and the universities of any change, and that offers can be amended or withdrawn if such changes are made. Don't confuse the conditions of an offer with these conditions of the process. An offer is made (either conditional or unconditional) but subject to you adhering to the rules.

    You would be foolish in the extreme to drop what you declared you would do without first consulting the university concerned.
    I contacted the university and they said that they would not retract the unconditional offer if I was to leave college. So now it's a money v education dilemma for the next few months...
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    (Original post by sbarrie2)
    I contacted the university and they said that they would not retract the unconditional offer if I was to leave college. So now it's a money v education dilemma for the next few months...
    Get it in writing.
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    Get it in writing.
    why?
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    because if you do drop out theres a huge chance they may deny any knowledge of saying it was fine for you to do so, and in the event of this you'll have no proof, therefore no offer.
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    (Original post by sbarrie2)
    why?
    Because, as you have just been reminded, an oral agreement is not worth the paper it is written on. What happens if the person who said it would be all right has left by August, or "forgets" what was said to you when the pressure for places comes on after results are better than expected?
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    Oh how i wish I got unconditionals. I got BCC but unis want CCC and CCD
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    I stayed on. Wish i hadn't though. It was a complete waste of a year.

    In Scotland we apply with our Highers already sat and have the grades for them so if you've met the conditions an unconditional is likely. I stayed on til March (was waiting for St Andrews who then rejected me!) and figured there wasn't much point in leaving! I got an unconditional to Glasgow in November and realistically should have left then. I know quite a few Scottish students who leave school after getting unconditionals.
 
 
 
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