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    (Original post by rach101)
    Pleasssse does anyone have any info on what the edinburgh interviews are like??? the kind of stuff they like to ask about etc etc??

    It's my last interview to do and it's on tuesday, eeeek.
    I had mine on Monday. It's not too bad. The women are really nice. But the questions were pretty tough. Make sure you're really slick on any interesting w/e cases you've seen. And things like vaccinations. And a few common diseases.

    I found that it was very vet-science related. Not just the general 'describe an interesting case'

    hope this is of help.
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    Hey i made the nottingham offers 2010 group on facebook. Search it and join those who this applies to =)
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    Just read that someone died at seaworld today after being attacked and drowned by a killer whale..

    http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...,5560011.story

    Apparently the whale has killed another man before. Do you guys think it should have been euthanized? Or how do you feel about dangerous performing animals?
    I have been to seaworld and these shows are impressive. Also the training stimulates the animals so they arn't bored and they have a good quality of life but i'm not sure whether i agree with them being in captivity...
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    (Original post by Moonlight*)
    BRISTOL OFFER!!! :woo: :woo: :woo:
    Woah you heard in same day????!

    How was the interview? (well good I assume, but very vetty-cause mine was!)
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    (Original post by Paulamoto)
    Just read that someone died at seaworld today after being attacked and drowned by a killer whale..

    http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...,5560011.story

    Apparently the whale has killed another man before. Do you guys think it should have been euthanized? Or how do you feel about dangerous performing animals?
    I have been to seaworld and these shows are impressive. Also the training stimulates the animals so they arn't bored and they have a good quality of life but i'm not sure whether i agree with them being in captivity...
    I agree about how the training stimulates the animals, and generally they 'seem' to enjoy it. However, they seem to be expected to do about 2 shows a day and spend the rest of the time in a large pool (but considering the size of the whales, the large pool does not seem so large). I think they probably are expected to do too much, so they get stressed and act out.

    Apparently, the whale has been 'involved' in two incidents. A trainer drowned in 1991, and they blame this whale, and a dead man (who is thought to of snuck into the park when it was closed) was found in the pool in 1999 and they blamed this whale. Although it seems like they don't have solid evidence (because all the websites I've found said 'apparently, 'speculated' etc), I don't think it was right for them to continue using this whale for performances, given its history. Surely it's just common sense?

    It's a horrible, tragic accident, and working with animals, especially large, dangerous wildlife, always has its risks and the trainers understand this. However, this doesn't seem to be an isolated incident with this whale, so I don't think he should of been performing, anyway.

    I don't really know enough about to say I completely disagree with using these whales for entertainment, because they do try to keep them stimulated and the vast majority of the trainers really, really care about their animals, but I definitely don't really agree it because I don't think a life in captivity suits these animals at all. So, I'm sort of on the fence, but leaning towards disagreement.
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    (Original post by Paulamoto)
    Just read that someone died at seaworld today after being attacked and drowned by a killer whale..

    http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...,5560011.story

    Apparently the whale has killed another man before. Do you guys think it should have been euthanized? Or how do you feel about dangerous performing animals?
    I have been to seaworld and these shows are impressive. Also the training stimulates the animals so they arn't bored and they have a good quality of life but i'm not sure whether i agree with them being in captivity...

    Well, what would be the purpose of euthanizing?
    A) Prevent a repeated incident
    B) Some form of revenge/justice for the relatives and friends of the victim
    C) Probably some legal requirements
    D) Returning the whale back to sea carries predatory risks

    BUTTTTTT what are the negatives??

    A) Whales are not domesticated animals!!! (despite the fact they are trainable) - this whale should not have been used for show purposes in the first place- should have been left in the ocean
    B) It is possible to gradually introduce a whale back in to its natural environment despite the risks
    C) Was the whale really aware of it's actions and the consiq.s? why should it be punished?
    D) The species is endangered, surely preservation is key not euthanization

    i wanna think of more arguments but i'm late for uni.. really interesting topic though!!
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    (Original post by Paulamoto)
    Just read that someone died at seaworld today after being attacked and drowned by a killer whale..

    http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...,5560011.story

    Apparently the whale has killed another man before. Do you guys think it should have been euthanized? Or how do you feel about dangerous performing animals?
    I have been to seaworld and these shows are impressive. Also the training stimulates the animals so they arn't bored and they have a good quality of life but i'm not sure whether i agree with them being in captivity...
    In my personal opinion I see no reason for this whale to be euthanised. What was demonstrated there (from the description) was an Orca's natural hunting behaviour so technically the animal was not acting maliciously. Yes, this is a dangerous animal BUT the people who decide to become trainers know that, and accept the fact that they run the risk of being killed everytime they get in the water with these creatures.

    Training may stimulate the animals, but from what I've seen vsiting these parks is that there are vast lengths of time every day where there is no stimulation at all (they tend keep training and shows short and sweet as -like dogs and other animals that can be trained- they respond better to frequent but short lessons rather than large block ones)
    The majority of the time the Orcas can be seen circling their small dolphin tanks repetatively with nothing to else to do.
    when you look at Orca's in the wild they can be seen breeching and reaching very high speeds, roaming hundreds of miles in family groups (pods). Social interaction is very important to them- as in captivity I have rarely seen more than one - maybe two, orcas being kept together. Of course, this may not be viable as a massive tank would have to be built to house such a captive pod, but in the long run I really do think that if people endevour to keep these creatures in captivity then they should make sure that they are kept in as natural environment as possible. We do that for terrestrial species - why not aquatic?

    I think that keeping captive animals is a great way of educating the general public about the other beings that share our planet, but I do think that when they are displayed to the public they should be kept in the best possible simulation of their natural surroundings and be able to exhibit natural behaviours. This way people will see them for what they really are- NOT some performing thing that can be kept in its cage and taken out at will and controlled.
    I know that they say "we train our animals by using ther natural behaviours" yes- that may be the case, but they are taking the natural behaviours and turing it into something that it's not, thus resulting in unnnatural behaviours being displayed.

    sorry for the long post
    (hope at least some of this makes sense)
    FAGV
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    (Original post by Dr. 2 be)
    BUTTTTTT what are the negatives??

    A) Whales are not domesticated animals!!! (despite the fact they are trainable) - this whale should not have been used for show purposes in the first place- should have been left in the ocean
    B) It is possible to gradually introduce a whale back in to its natural environment despite the risks
    C) Was the whale really aware of it's actions and the consiq.s? why should it be punished?
    D) The species is endangered, surely preservation is key not euthanization

    i wanna think of more arguments but i'm late for uni.. really interesting topic though!!
    A) True
    B) Is it really possible to introduce the whale back into the wild? it may not be able to fend for itself. It would not have been socialised as a member of a pod and may not be successful at hunting.
    C) Euthanasia is not a punishment, its a preventative measure.
    D) Orcas may be endangered, but theyre not really under any risk of extinction. Even if it does survive in the wild it may not be able to breed successfully, due to having had no interaction with other orcas. Or it might be too old.

    They say they are training them by using their natural behaviours - are they throwing live seals in there as rewards or something?
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    dumdeedum i was expecting loads of bristol offers when i came on this morning, maybe she has more to do today...

    im pretty sure on-holds and rejections will be done by email so will be quicker than a week, theyre gona have to get on with it if they have 2 more dates (one must be the 3rd which is only next week!!!) they have ALOT of people to get through!!!!!!

    i went to the vets last night for a Lambing workshop.. funfun!
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    Rejections are sent my email anyway.

    Do seaworld and those sort of organisations actually have anything to do with the preservation of the endangered animals they have or is it purely for show purposes? Sorry I don't know alot about it.
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    When does Lynda Moore usually start and stop calling to give offers after an interview? I'm stalking my mobile like crazy.
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    i watched a documentary on bbc2 last night about luna the orca. so sad. i cried buckets .
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    I'm stalking my mobile as well but that's incase Nottingham phone =)

    How sad are we lol =D
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    (Original post by ~*starlight*conquest*~)
    When does Lynda Moore usually start and stop calling to give offers after an interview? I'm stalking my mobile like crazy.
    Keep Stalking :yep:

    she will ring within 48hours i think, did u go to the talk? she normally gives a more accurate idea of when in that because its different for each interview date depending on how busy she is and things!


    i withdrew from my 5th choice today and then got a UCAS notification and got really scared but it was telling me that it had changed... i thought it was going to be a bristol rejection!!
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    Oh, and I was wondering, do you think that it would be fair if one of us was to set up a website or blog with lots of information on how to be a vet, interview questions, current issues and disease information? I would have killed to find such a website myself, but then I can't help but think that people who get information handed to them on a silver platter don't really deserve an offer? Like, they should do their own research and work hard find what they need? What do you think?
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    Ahh, wow, only gone 2 days and SO much has happened! WELL DONE on all the offers!! It's going to be crazy on here when RVC offers come through!

    My Ed interview was ok I think, but I'm not sure, again can think of things I should have added to my answers to make them better :s And in answer to your question Rach, know your ps and we b/c so far it's been the only interview of mine that actually asked the kind of questions they say they will, e.g. stress of working as a vet, ps stuff, but also some weird questions, so be ready for some curve balls, but it's not that bad. I had to guys and they were really nice and smiley, so don't be worried about that

    Ah, I REALLY hope I'll get at least 1 vetmed offer, I'll go to Imperial, but I want to go to vet school NOW!!

    PS: When did Ed offers come through to ppl after their interviews? And did they come by post / track / EUCLID?
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    (Original post by Rachhyyyy)
    Keep Stalking :yep:

    she will ring within 48hours i think, did u go to the talk? she normally gives a more accurate idea of when in that because its different for each interview date depending on how busy she is and things!


    i withdrew from my 5th choice today and then got a UCAS notification and got really scared but it was telling me that it had changed... i thought it was going to be a bristol rejection!!
    Hah, scared by your own shadow! What's your first choice? Bristol I imagine?

    She said she'd probably ring the next day, or email within a week to say whether rejected, on hold or offer. She didn't mention anything about being busy...Well I didn't notice her saying so anyway.

    Does she sometimes call after 6pm?

    We're not sad FireandIce, just desprate and obsessed :p:
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    Sami.... im pretty sure offers were quite quick, people had interviews around the 15/16th of december and they heard just before xmas, i think they tell u by euclid and UCAS but not 100% sure, this is edinburgh by the way!!!! did u think it was a tough interview, i have mine next week!! i think i must have the last date (4th) so i wdnt be suprised if they wait til after that to get back to everyone? who knows!!!

    and starlight.. yeh scared by own shadow, i didnt think they wud need to tell me that I had changed it myself!!!! edinburgh is my 1st, bristol 2nd

    i think she does call in the evenings sometimes, shedlife (will :p: ) got an offer this morning but hasnt come on to write in big letters because he is a looser lol. but congrats!!! and moonlight got one last night so she is getting on with it, just keep stalking that phone :yep:
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    (Original post by ~*starlight*conquest*~)
    Oh, and I was wondering, do you think that it would be fair if one of us was to set up a website or blog with lots of information on how to be a vet, interview questions, current issues and disease information? I would have killed to find such a website myself, but then I can't help but think that people who get information handed to them on a silver platter don't really deserve an offer? Like, they should do their own research and work hard find what they need? What do you think?
    I agree, I would have loved a website like that, however, I also agree that if ppl don't have the motivation to do their own research, then I don't think they really deserve an offer...I know everything I know on vet stuff b/c I watched every vet-related thing I could on tv, looked up close to each issue i came across in we on the internet and asked questions at the end of the day/after a consult so that I would know more. I KNOW that i'm motivated enough, and if ppl just get the information handed to them...i dunno how certain they would end up being...Also, the we is there to let you know what it's like to be a vet, including the constant learning that you have to do even after uni, so I think we get important research experience and independent learning experience out of the research that we do 4 interivews...

    So to conclude ( :p: ) I don't think we should do it, it would be a nice gesture, but I think it's important that we all do our own research

    PS: sorry about the double post...

    In asnwer to Rachy: it was quite tough, but they were rly nice so it was enjoyable, i stumbled on a few things but got there in the end, and they seemed to make a joke out of it, rather than look at me like I was a complete idiot and why did i even apply if i'm going to take so long to work something out! So i think even though i took some time to work out the answer they wanted me to give, they were nice about it (wow, ramble!)
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    Wahey, I wish people would write it in big letters when they get offers though! So well done Will when you come on, that's amazing!

    Seriously getting scared about Bristol now, I don't feel prepared at all and I am rapidly running out of time because I have mocks and a deadline for my Chem coursework sitting on me
 
 
 
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