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    Which do you think would: prosper, become rich, become powerful, good standard of living, etc. first? Or, in general, how do you think they would progress? And which one would you rather live in?

    By "rich" and "powerful" et al, I mean more so than now.

    And this means the UK would become truly and fully left wing and right wing (non of this Labour/Tory centrist stuff). And everything would adopt such values: public services, courts, parliament (all left or right wing MPs/peers), foreign policy, etc.

    This is all hypothetical, of course. Oh, and I know the terms left wing and right wing are quite ambiguous, but you know what they usually encompass in terms of social/political/economic policy.
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    Both are fairly useless as they are obsessed with maintaining the centre ground. Centrism is the biggest fail ever.

    If we had real left wing and right wing parties, think Socialist Party of England and Wales and LPUK, I would definitely opt for the former.
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    Depends what branch of leftism it is, but my understanding is that it is near-impossible to have one communist country if there are no others. There needs to be a global switch to communism, or it won't work.
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    Right wing
    The introduction of capitalism is directly linked to growth in GDP and GDP is a very good meaure of the quality of life the people in that country.
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    Socialism not communism, we would pull out of needless wars and start profiting from the nationalisation of public services, and have capable, intellectual and intelligent people in power.
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    (Original post by FinishHim!)
    Which do you think would: prosper, become rich, become powerful, good standard of living, etc. first? Or, in general, how do you think they would progress? And which one would you rather live in?

    By "rich" and "powerful" et al, I mean more so than now.

    And this means the UK would become truly and fully left wing and right wing (non of this Labour/Tory centrist stuff). And everything would adopt such values: public services, courts, parliament (all left or right wing MPs/peers), foreign policy, etc.

    This is all hypothetical, of course. Oh, and I know the terms left wing and right wing are quite ambiguous, but you know what they usually encompass in terms of social/political/economic policy.

    So you're asking, which of a hypothetical left wing or right wing government would do better in running the country?

    It really depends on your definition of left wing and right wing, they're such oversimplified terms. By left wing, do you mean old fashioned liberalism, socialism, communism etc... By right wing, do you mean populism, traditional conversativism, libertarianism, nationalism etc..

    All extremes are as bad as each other. That's why they're considered extreme...
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    Left, quite emphatically personally.
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    (Original post by Samrout)
    Socialism not communism, we would pull out of needless wars and start profiting from the nationalisation of public services, and have capable, intellectual and intelligent people in power.
    Socialism has nothing to say about foreign policy whatsoever. and why would socialists be any more "capable, intellectual and intelligent" than anyone else?
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    Depends what you mean by right wing. People use the phrase right wing to mean a strong state with strict rules and restrictions. Or do you mean a libertarian free market economy?

    Do you mean a society where the state would act to prevent monopoly interests controlling the market to allow the free market to operate or one which stood back and allowed a small number of firms to take over the market and dominate the economy and society like the state would?
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    Neither. Attachment to a particular political ideology tends to lead to enormous amounts of fail, and tends to blind people to the many failing both approaches have. We need politicians to focus on actual evidence, not on ideology.
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    (Original post by Samrout)
    Socialism not communism, we would pull out of needless wars and start profiting from the nationalisation of public services, and have capable, intellectual and intelligent people in power.
    How can people who believe in socialism be intelligent, when socialism has failed at every attempt?
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    What we need is a common sense party without any isms.

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    (Original post by py0alb)
    Socialism has nothing to say about foreign policy whatsoever. and why would socialists be any more "capable, intellectual and intelligent" than anyone else?
    Name me a right wing intellectual

    (Original post by usainlightning)
    How can people who believe in socialism be intelligent, when socialism has failed at every attempt?
    Because people who believe in a dog-eat-dog capitalist world want nothing but inequality. Those people are otherwise known as dumb-asses.
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    VOTE GREEN!!! lol.

    Far left is the lesser of 2 evils i suppose.
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    (Original post by Arthur11)
    What we need is a common sense party without any isms.

    Arthur
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    Right wing would certinally do better. We do have countries with liberal government which works. Yes, inequality is huge, but they are still relatively rich. For instance Singapore, Taiwan, South Korea, Chile do have liberal governments.

    The other way has shown to be a complete failure. Cuba, east-bloc countries, etc. They all failed.
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    (Original post by Camlon)
    Right wing would certinally do better. We do have countries with liberal government which works. Yes, inequality is huge, but they are still relatively rich. For instance Singapore, Taiwan, South Korea, Chile do have liberal governments.

    The other way has shown to be a complete failure. Cuba, east-bloc countries, etc. They all failed.
    Depends what you judge as success and failure.
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    (Original post by JNV)
    Depends what you judge as success and failure.
    Well, yes. But at least their productivity is very low and Cuba's health care system is hyped up. It's better than other poor countries, because in most poor countries people don't receive health care. But compared to western standards including the USA, it's terrible.

    I think if you gave people a choice, move to Cuba or move to Taiwan permanently with no money. I think most people would choose Taiwan.
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    surely far left doesn't embrace capitalism and thus will find it hard to economically grow ?
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    (Original post by Samrout)
    Name me a right wing intellectual

    That wasn't what I said, but ok, why not.

    Hobbes. Adam Smith. Rousseau. Nietzche.
 
 
 
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