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    Hi
    just want to find out whether there is any difference between a BEd and BA(hons) course in Primary Education... I've got an offer and I just realised that Edge Hill university offers a BA(hons) and not a BEd. is one better than the other?

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    The difference isn't in the BEd/BA distinction, the difference is in (1) the length of time you have to study and (2) whether you graduate with proper QTS ("qualified teacher status" ) or the "provisional" QTS (and thus, once you get your first teaching job, have to do a few bits on the side in order to obtain proper QTS).

    Basically, the old degrees were 4 year degrees that led to full QTS.
    Then some universities offered shorter degrees that were cut back to 3 years, and graduates had to do a bit of study during their first year as a teacher to make up the difference.
    Then the PGCE became popular. The PGCE is a 1 year post-graduate certificate that lets people with non-teaching degrees train to become teachers. PGCE students have to study a bit more during their first year of teaching like those who have studied for 3 years to become a teacher.

    You *may* find that the BA indicates a 3 year degree, and the BEd a 4 year degree, but that will be the only difference (if it exists at all, you may find that some 4 year courses are called BA, and some 3 year courses are called BEd - it all comes down to what the university likes the sound of).
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    (Original post by The Boosh)
    The difference isn't in the BEd/BA distinction, the difference is in (1) the length of time you have to study and (2) whether you graduate with proper QTS ("qualified teacher status" ) or the "provisional" QTS (and thus, once you get your first teaching job, have to do a few bits on the side in order to obtain proper QTS).

    Basically, the old degrees were 4 year degrees that led to full QTS.
    Then some universities offered shorter degrees that were cut back to 3 years, and graduates had to do a bit of study during their first year as a teacher to make up the difference.
    Then the PGCE became popular. The PGCE is a 1 year post-graduate certificate that lets people with non-teaching degrees train to become teachers. PGCE students have to study a bit more during their first year of teaching like those who have studied for 3 years to become a teacher.

    You *may* find that the BA indicates a 3 year degree, and the BEd a 4 year degree, but that will be the only difference (if it exists at all, you may find that some 4 year courses are called BA, and some 3 year courses are called BEd - it all comes down to what the university likes the sound of).
    thank you very much! got really confused this helped clear the confusion!
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    (Original post by The Boosh)
    The difference isn't in the BEd/BA distinction, the difference is in (1) the length of time you have to study and (2) whether you graduate with proper QTS ("qualified teacher status" ) or the "provisional" QTS (and thus, once you get your first teaching job, have to do a few bits on the side in order to obtain proper QTS).

    Basically, the old degrees were 4 year degrees that led to full QTS.
    Then some universities offered shorter degrees that were cut back to 3 years, and graduates had to do a bit of study during their first year as a teacher to make up the difference.
    Then the PGCE became popular. The PGCE is a 1 year post-graduate certificate that lets people with non-teaching degrees train to become teachers. PGCE students have to study a bit more during their first year of teaching like those who have studied for 3 years to become a teacher.

    You *may* find that the BA indicates a 3 year degree, and the BEd a 4 year degree, but that will be the only difference (if it exists at all, you may find that some 4 year courses are called BA, and some 3 year courses are called BEd - it all comes down to what the university likes the sound of).
    Without sounding rude, this isn't quite right.

    No course in the UK, can give full QTS as your not awarded QTS until you have completed your NQT year.

    All universities can do, is give you a recommendation of QTS to the TDA.

    Is the BA, a BA in Education Studies, as if this is the case you will still have to complete a PGCE or GTP in order to get QTS.
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    (Original post by youngteacher)
    Without sounding rude, this isn't quite right.

    No course in the UK, can give full QTS as your not awarded QTS until you have completed your NQT year.

    All universities can do, is give you a recommendation of QTS to the TDA.

    Is the BA, a BA in Education Studies, as if this is the case you will still have to complete a PGCE or GTP in order to get QTS.
    This was the only thing I wasn't sure about. I'm aware that NQTs are given provisional QTS, but I thought the NQT year for the 4 year undergrad. degrees where different (at least, that is how it has been described by an old girlfriend who did the 4 year BA (Ed) (Hons) ITT with Music (QTS). I have a PGCE and haven't personally passed through the undergraduate system.
 
 
 
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