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    Yeah. For maths that is.
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    Well, the only way you'll find out is to compare the exam papers. But they might not all do the same modules, or teach the same stuff, so it's pretty much subjective.
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    Probabaly not - but it will be easier to ensure you get one of the top marks if the calibre of student is lower.
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    (Original post by paddy__power)
    Probabaly not - but it will be easier to ensure you get one of the top marks if the calibre of student is lower.
    Which it isn't. I bloody love TSR and its all-knowing A level students.
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    (Original post by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher)
    Which it isn't. I bloody love TSR and its all-knowing A level students.
    I have never claimed to be all knowing darling, or that it was, hence the word if :rolleyes: . I bloody love TSR and it's presumptuous, overly defensive, university students ^^

    Have a nice day. -lol-

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    (Original post by -WhySoSerious?)
    Well, the only way you'll find out is to compare the exam papers. But they might not all do the same modules, or teach the same stuff, so it's pretty much subjective.
    Well, suppose I got a 1 in Leeds and a 2:1 in Nottingham; do you think employers will favour the Nottingham grade over the Leeds one?
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    (Original post by TRStemporaryusername)
    Well, suppose I got a 1 in Leeds and a 2:1 in Nottingham; do you think employers will favour the Nottingham grade over the Leeds one?
    If you're going for a heavily quantitative job at a firm that knows where the best unis for maths are, then maybe. For most other jobs, the 1st will count for more.
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    I'm glad you've asked ... yes i've been to all 3 uni's and leeds exams was a piece of piss :holmes:
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    (Original post by dennisthe3rd)
    I'm glad you've asked ... yes i've been to all 3 uni's and leeds exams was a piece of piss :holmes:
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    (Original post by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher)
    Which it isn't. I bloody love TSR and its all-knowing A level students.
    But surely that's true? Would it not easier to get a first from say, Thames Valley, than from Oxford? After all, most people who get into the top Unis, eg, Oxbridge, Durham etc, are already the best in the country. And of course, most of them will get 2.1s. Whereas, most people who go to the "bad" universities won't be anywhere near as academically capable, and yet some of them have to be given firsts.
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    (Original post by DaveJ)
    But surely that's true? Would it not easier to get a first from say, Thames Valley, than from Oxford? After all, most people who get into the top Unis, eg, Oxbridge, Durham etc, are already the best in the country. And of course, most of them will get 2.1s. Whereas, most people who go to the "bad" universities won't be anywhere near as academically capable, and yet some of them have to be given firsts.
    Well, Thames Valley vs Oxbridge is a whole different question. You have a very low ranking university against the best two, so yeah.
    But when it comes to Nottingham, Leeds, Kings, Bristol, etc vs Oxbridge, surely there is a much smaller difference in the quality of the examinations. Also, the idea of 'giving' firsts surely has to involve making the exams piss easy.
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    If you actually look at the final year statistics papers at Leeds they're coparable to a slightly harder S4 paper. Srsly. It's not very good for maths.
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    (Original post by TRStemporaryusername)
    Yeah. For maths that is.
    Love how you answered your own question in the OP of your own thread.
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    (Original post by TRStemporaryusername)
    Potato.
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    (Original post by dennisthe3rd)
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    (Original post by Totally Tom)
    If you actually look at the final year statistics papers at Leeds they're coparable to a slightly harder S4 paper. Srsly. It's not very good for maths.
    Would you be so kind as to show me this paper?
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    (Original post by TRStemporaryusername)
    Would you be so kind as to show me this paper?
    There you go.
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    (Original post by Totally Tom)
    There you go.
    Have you got anymore of these papers? Preferably not stats though. Or is there a link with more papers on?
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    (Original post by TRStemporaryusername)
    Well, Thames Valley vs Oxbridge is a whole different question. You have a very low ranking university against the best two, so yeah.
    But when it comes to Nottingham, Leeds, Kings, Bristol, etc vs Oxbridge, surely there is a much smaller difference in the quality of the examinations. Also, the idea of 'giving' firsts surely has to involve making the exams piss easy.
    There is a gulf between Nottingham and Leeds and then Oxbridge, ICL and Warwick for maths.

    This is less than the difference between Thames Valley and Oxbridge - so what you said was technically correct - but you must understand that the calibre of students, quality of teaching and difficulty of exams is way higher at, say, Cambridge than at Nottingham.

    As for your comments about 'giving' firsts; unis will standardise exams so a certain fraction (roughly 10-15% at most unis?) will get a first. So really, the top 15% of the student body will get a first.
    Using the above example again, the 16th percentile at Cambridge who "only" get a 2:1 would be significantly stronger mathematicians than, say, the 7th percentile at Nottingham who are getting a first.
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    There you go.
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