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    So i opened my mail today, and received a great big red valentines card... from the NHS.

    "Roses are Red, Violets are Blue, 1 in 14 have Chlamydia, don't let it be you"

    Seems like every 18-24 y/o in my London borough (Croydon) was sent one. Now i appreciate that they want to raise awareness of issues like these, but am i the only one who think they've kind of crossed some kind of line here? I don't ever want to receive a valentines card where the subject isn't valentines related, especially not 'You probably have a sexually transmitted infection'. Am i the only one who thinks the NHS have just gone a bit too far? There was a case up north where they sent out free condoms to 18-24 year olds, should a public funded body such as this be promoting sex among teenagers. Have as much sex as you want as long as you wear a condom seems to be the message from the NHS at the moment, is this really the right thing to do?
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    I want one now. :unsure:

    Yeah, it's a bit far-fetched and it won't work anyway.
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    Point is teens are going to have sex, telling them isn't going to stop them, consider the chav population.
    So at least if they wear a condom the odds of reproduction/disease is reduced.
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    (Original post by Joluk)
    So i opened my mail today, and received a great big red valentines card... from the NHS.

    "Roses are Red, Violets are Blue, 1 in 14 have Chlamydia, don't let it be you"

    Seems like every 18-24 y/o in my London borough (Croydon) was sent one. Now i appreciate that they want to raise awareness of issues like these, but am i the only one who think they've kind of crossed some kind of line here? I don't ever want to receive a valentines card where the subject isn't valentines related, especially not 'You probably have a sexually transmitted infection'. Am i the only one who thinks the NHS have just gone a bit too far? There was a case up north where they sent out free condoms to 18-24 year olds, should a public funded body such as this be promoting sex among teenagers. Have as much sex as you want as long as you wear a condom seems to be the message from the NHS at the moment, is this really the right thing to do?
    The only thing I don't like about the idea is that it is overly presumptive that all teenagers are having unprotected sex and I absolutely HATE being stereotyped in this way.

    I went to the docs one time about problems with a new pill I was on, and she was trying to tell me that I probably had an STI even when I continually told her I had never had unprotected sex with my bf and that we have only ever slept with each other!!! I don't think she believed me that I hadn't had unprotected sex as she kept asking me "Are you sure you haven't???" !!!!

    I HATE being an 18 year old sometimes, I HATE being treated like a child or treated like an idiot who goes around having lots of unprotected sex with lots of random men!
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    Argh I got the card last year, my mum being nosey as she is opened it up and told me I had a valentines card from chlamidya. How embarassing. BUT the NHS have really out done themselves this year imo, cos today I came home from college to find a letter with my name on it and one of those cups for a urine sample lol. I know its for the good of everyone but still....
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    (Original post by HaNzY)
    I went to the docs one time about problems with a new pill I was on, and she was trying to tell me that I probably had an STI even when I continually told her I had never had unprotected sex with my bf and that we have only ever slept with each other!!! I don't think she believed me that I hadn't had unprotected sex as she kept asking me "Are you sure you haven't???" !!!!
    I sympathise with your position, but lets hypothetically assume that you did have unprotected sex, multiple partners etc, would you be honestly truthful about that?

    Even if you would, from my experience (as a medical student), the vast majority of people who have a problem that could potentially be caused by unprotected sex, teenagers are nortoriously unforthcoming about it, even if it's apparent (one girl was pregnant and claimed she never had sex ever, let alone unprotected sex). So it would be nice if you could cut doctors a little bit of slack, even if you find the questions a little disconcerting.
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    (Original post by HaNzY)
    The only thing I don't like about the idea is that it is overly presumptive that all teenagers are having unprotected sex and I absolutely HATE being stereotyped in this way.

    I went to the docs one time about problems with a new pill I was on, and she was trying to tell me that I probably had an STI even when I continually told her I had never had unprotected sex with my bf and that we have only ever slept with each other!!! I don't think she believed me that I hadn't had unprotected sex as she kept asking me "Are you sure you haven't???" !!!!

    I HATE being an 18 year old sometimes, I HATE being treated like a child or treated like an idiot who goes around having lots of unprotected sex with lots of random men!
    hmm I know what you mean about the doctors. I went to get something checked out and he asked how much I drink and I told him I didn't drink and he was said I probably didn't realise how much I was drinking so I told him again that I don't drink but he just rolled his eyes and told me if I stopped binge drinking the problem would clear up :rolleyes:


    I think the Valentine's cards are a waste of money and could have been better spent elsewhere, its also quite patronising.
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    (Original post by kamc)
    hmm I know what you mean about the doctors. I went to get something checked out and he asked how much I drink and I told him I didn't drink and he was said I probably didn't realise how much I was drinking so I told him again that I don't drink but he just rolled his eyes and told me if I stopped binge drinking the problem would clear up :rolleyes:
    Again, this is largely because teenagers (or indeed anyone) who does drink tends to lie or hide the fact. Don't take it too personally if a doctor doesn't believe you.
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    To be fair, they're going to be relevant to one in 14 of the thousands of people they send them to.
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    How did they get your email addresS?
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    (Original post by Captain Crash)
    Again, this is largely because teenagers (or indeed anyone) who does drink tends to lie or hide the fact. Don't take it too personally if a doctor doesn't believe you.
    I have no problem with him asking how much I drink, or asking again to make sure I wasn't lying but he kept pressing the issue and he actually rolled his eyes at me and talked to me like I was a complete idiot. He didn't even consider it could be caused by anything else but my binge drinking. He then told me to stop wasting his time and to only come back if I had a serious medical complaint.

    I complained about his behaviour and changed doctors and my new dr found the problem without being disrespectful and accusing me of lying.
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    People lie about who they've had sex with, some of your partners may well lie or indeed in the future lie about who they've had sex with. I have chosen a module where I teach sex education and to be honest some of the statistics and anecdotes are actually quite shocking. There are so many people with STIs and so many people who don't understand basics about contraception that it is actually quite scary. Chlamydia is becoming the worst one and it is often asymptomatic, which is why the government are promoting the tests so because there is often no way you can know yourself (and to be fair, I can actually see it working. there are tests available pretty much everywhere and people can just conveniently do it, they even do them in clubs and give away free stuff).

    People also forget STIs aren't only spread through unprotected sex. You can also get some forms of them through touching of genitals or oral sex. The condom can split, and whilst rare, you can get it through the eye.

    If you feel patronised you take these things to heart waaay too much. Feeling as though you are being patronised through simple health promotion and not treated like an adult is quite an immature attitude itself. It's going to help in some way, just because you think it challenges your "maturity" and oh so great "knowledge" about STIs doesn't mean they shouldn't send it just in case.
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    (Original post by Ryan W)
    To be fair, they're going to be relevant to one in 14 of the thousands of people they send them to.
    Yeah but thats what 7.2ish percent?

    Thats a shocking success rate.

    Besides, lets say the NHS is footing the postage, what an epic waste of NHS funds, if people arent going to respond to tv ads, and god knows what else, posting them a valentines card is the wrong way to go about it.
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    Tbh I got a free Chlamydia test through my door this week from the NHS. Honestly, there's a tube and everything. :lolwut:

    I kid you not. :nothing:

    Questionnaire; Are you the partner of someone with Chlamydia? Uh, I hope not, no! :erm:
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    (Original post by Fatal_Microbes)
    Yeah but thats what 7.2ish percent?

    Thats a shocking success rate.

    Besides, lets say the NHS is footing the postage, what an epic waste of NHS funds, if people arent going to respond to tv ads, and god knows what else, posting them a valentines card is the wrong way to go about it.

    You forget that that 7% of people isn't really that shockingly low for diseases (considering they spend a lot more on things like HIV and cancer promotion in certain ways which are rarer, that 7% is quite important), in fact it's quite a high proportion, and that percent would increase exponentially if, anecdotally, that 7% were not tested and continued having sex with various partners, and those partners had sex with other people...
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    (Original post by Fatal_Microbes)
    Yeah but thats what 7.2ish percent?

    Thats a shocking success rate.

    Besides, lets say the NHS is footing the postage, what an epic waste of NHS funds, if people arent going to respond to tv ads, and god knows what else, posting them a valentines card is the wrong way to go about it.
    We do screening for things (e.g. Breast cancer) that have a prevalance of much less than 7%. In fact 7% is shockingly high when it comes to disease prevalance, especially in younger age groups.
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    (Original post by kamc)
    I have no problem with him asking how much I drink, or asking again to make sure I wasn't lying but he kept pressing the issue and he actually rolled his eyes at me and talked to me like I was a complete idiot. He didn't even consider it could be caused by anything else but my binge drinking. He then told me to stop wasting his time and to only come back if I had a serious medical complaint.

    I complained about his behaviour and changed doctors and my new dr found the problem without being disrespectful and accusing me of lying.
    I'm sorry to hear that, if that was the case. It's no secret that some doctors don't have quite the same tact and communication skills as others, particularly when it comes to teenagers.
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    I think it's an absolutely brilliant idea.

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    (Original post by Jessaay!)
    People lie about who they've had sex with, some of your partners may well lie or indeed in the future lie about who they've had sex with. I have chosen a module where I teach sex education and to be honest some of the statistics and anecdotes are actually quite shocking. There are so many people with STIs and so many people who don't understand basics about contraception that it is actually quite scary. Chlamydia is becoming the worst one and it is often asymptomatic, which is why the government are promoting the tests so because there is often no way you can know yourself (and to be fair, I can actually see it working. there are tests available pretty much everywhere and people can just conveniently do it, they even do them in clubs and give away free stuff).

    People also forget STIs aren't only spread through unprotected sex. You can also get some forms of them through touching of genitals or oral sex. The condom can split, and whilst rare, you can get it through the eye.

    If you feel patronised you take these things to heart waaay too much. Feeling as though you are being patronised through simple health promotion and not treated like an adult is quite an immature attitude itself. It's going to help in some way, just because you think it challenges your "maturity" and oh so great "knowledge" about STIs doesn't mean they shouldn't send it just in case.
    This. 110%.
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    (Original post by Jessaay!)
    You forget that that 7% of people isn't really that shockingly low for diseases (considering they spend a lot more on things like HIV and cancer promotion in certain ways which are rarer, that 7% is quite important), in fact it's quite a high proportion, and that percent would increase exponentially if, anecdotally, that 7% were not tested and continued having sex with various partners, and those partners had sex with other people...
    (Original post by Captain Crash)
    We do screening for things (e.g. Breast cancer) that have a prevalance of much less than 7%. In fact 7% is shockingly high when it comes to disease prevalance, especially in younger age groups.

    Yes, in disease terms 7% is alot, my point was more that if we were doing a job or were sitting a test and we were correct 7% of the time we'd be doing a pretty bad job.
    I guess the sarcasm was kind of lost on this topic.

    However I do believe that personally posting these cards is a waste, considering there are much more effective ways to reach people. If it comes through the post people are more likely to regard it as span, whereas myspace/facebook campaigns, tv ads etc are a lot more effective.
 
 
 
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