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    Hey I'm in year 12 at the moment just having initial thoughts on universities and courses.

    I really enjoy English and History but can't decide which to do or whether to do joint honours in both.

    I was just wondering if joint honours are less respected for career aspects later on (or postgraduate study in one of the subjects)? Is it better to specialise in one subject or am I just being silly?

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    Before you reply, I am now in my second year studying Law, this is a very old thread :p:
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    (Original post by lattywatty)
    Hey I'm in year 12 at the moment just having initial thoughts on universities and courses.

    I really enjoy English and History but can't decide which to do or whether to do joint honours in both.

    I was just wondering if joint honours are less respected for career aspects later on (or postgraduate study in one of the subjects)? Is it better to specialise in one subject or am I just being silly?
    I wouldn't say they're less respected - nor are they more respected - but it does give you a wider careers 'net', which is always useful if you don't know what you want to go in to.

    For example with an "English and history" degree you will have open to you both the careers of an English graduate and a history graduate. I realise there is a lot of overlap between those specific subjects, but there may be a few jobs that don't overlap...but even so, with other less-similar subjects (ie maths with spanish, just for example) it may improve your career prospects a lot.

    This is of course assuming you go to a good uni and both subjects are equally well respected, etc.
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    I personally always think of them being slightly more respected, in the sense that you have to be better at more things to do well, if you see what I mean. I'm not sure if they're more respected by employers, but they impress me! I'm sure they're not less respected than a single honours, though.
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    Actually I know a few people who do hiring in the companies they work in and they say they prefer single as it's betetr to know one subject in a lot of depth than two in less depth. This said, if the subjects are cognate then this critisism is diluted.
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    (Original post by paddy__power)
    Actually I know a few people who do hiring in the companies they work in and they say they prefer single as it's betetr to know one subject in a lot of depth than two in less depth. This said, if the subjects are cognate then this critisism is diluted.
    Hhmm, surely this would only be for certain subjects. Accounting and English might be worse than straight accounting, for example, but economics and Maths might be better than just one or the other (assuming this imaginary person wants a job in accounting etc).

    With subjects like history and English it shouldn't matter though, as each is pretty open in terms of which careers you can choose.

    I have heard that it can sometimes be harder to get the grades in the second and third years though, as you won't have as broad a knowledge of each subject as single honours students.
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    (Original post by Rob19)
    Hhmm, surely this would only be for certain subjects. Accounting and English might be worse than straight accounting, for example, but economics and Maths might be better than just one or the other (assuming this imaginary person wants a job in accounting etc).

    With subjects like history and English it shouldn't matter though, as each is pretty open in terms of which careers you can choose.

    I have heard that it can sometimes be harder to get the grades in the second and third years though, as you won't have as broad a knowledge of each subject as single honours students.
    Things like econ + math and Hist + pol are broadly fine as they are similar. It's when it's things like history and psychology or economics and english etc.

    A slightly weak analogy: Lifting 2 50 kg weights one after the other is easier than one 100 kg weight. You may do the same amount of work in a joint Hist/Eng but you have not gone into the depth in either. That's how they see it anyway.

    TBH it will depend on who is looking at your application, much the same as any other aspect.
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    Im doing International Business, Finance and Economics, i personally think that is a good combo as they are all related. What do you guys think?
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    Right, cheers paddy power!
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    (Original post by lattywatty)
    Hey I'm in year 12 at the moment just having initial thoughts on universities and courses.

    I really enjoy English and History but can't decide which to do or whether to do joint honours in both.

    I was just wondering if joint honours are less respected for career aspects later on (or postgraduate study in one of the subjects)? Is it better to specialise in one subject or am I just being silly?
    English and history are a good combo, they complement each other very well...go for it. I might be biased (as I've applied for a joint honours degree) but I think they're a good idea. I want to go into teaching so it's ideal because I can specialise in maths/music but also teach the other subject as well. It makes you more employable. A lot of unis are really flexible about how u divide ur work across the 2 subjects...so like, you could do a 20-80% split later on in your degree if you want to specialise more in one subject than the other and still come out with a joint honours degree. It is marginally more work I think...because you have to switch between two subjects...so in short yes, I think they are well-respected among employers if anything I think they're more respected than single honours.
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    Generally speaking, I would think joint honours would be more respected, due to the amount of work a student needs to do. It must be quite tricky juggling two subjects at the same time, and I think if the two subjects are highly relevant to a career, then employers should appreciate this effort.

    To be quite honest, those doing joint honours will rarely miss much from doing a single. Those doing joint honours will be taking the core units (the main element of the course) whereas those taking single will take the core units with the option to take some "fun" bits on the side. Granted, this usually means joint honours students have less freedom to decide what units they want to do.

    Of course you should check the course details before applying, but essentially you should finish with the main skills in both areas.
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    Thanks for all the advice everyone. That's made me much more comfortable in going for a joint honours now (which is what I really want to do, thinking about it)
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    You're welcome.
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    this worries me slightly... I'd never even considered that joint honours might not be a respected degree before I went into it.
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    sorry didn't think this was worth another thread: how about Law and Business joint honours?
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    (Original post by lattywatty)
    Hey I'm in year 12 at the moment just having initial thoughts on universities and courses.

    I really enjoy English and History but can't decide which to do or whether to do joint honours in both.

    I was just wondering if joint honours are less respected for career aspects later on (or postgraduate study in one of the subjects)? Is it better to specialise in one subject or am I just being silly?
    Joint in English and History isnt considered less respective... however, I dont know what level you work at but the odds of being offered a joint honours course is far less than those going for singles honours...

    Ie. Oxford you stand a 25-30% chance of getting in for english or history, but for joint honours its a 13% chance (less than medicine)

    Im still waiting on Durham and to be honest, Im not hopeful... they've turned away far more academic students than myself this year for single honours, the likliehood that BOTH the departments decide they want me is soo slim its ridiculous!!!
    And, in the end, A joint honours course from cardiff or liverpool will never be as highly considered as single honours from durham...
    Though if you REALLY cant decide then go for it and cross your fingers!!!
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    (Original post by acp11)
    sorry didn't think this was worth another thread: how about Law and Business joint honours?
    eeek... I wouldnt
    Just from talking to managers of law firms...
    English and law they can understand but buisness and law send you to two different career paths which they dont appreciate so much!!!
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    (Original post by bacforever3)
    eeek... I wouldnt
    Just from talking to managers of law firms...
    English and law they can understand but buisness and law send you to two different career paths which they dont appreciate so much!!!
    :eek: oh I should have made it clear, I'm looking to go into the 'business' field rather than the law side of things.
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    (Original post by bacforever3)
    Joint in English and History isnt considered less respective... however, I dont know what level you work at but the odds of being offered a joint honours course is far less than those going for singles honours...

    Ie. Oxford you stand a 25-30% chance of getting in for english or history, but for joint honours its a 13% chance (less than medicine)

    Im still waiting on Durham and to be honest, Im not hopeful... they've turned away far more academic students than myself this year for single honours, the likliehood that BOTH the departments decide they want me is soo slim its ridiculous!!!
    And, in the end, A joint honours course from cardiff or liverpool will never be as highly considered as single honours from durham...
    Though if you REALLY cant decide then go for it and cross your fingers!!!
    Eek. This frightens me I would be aiming for the top 10 unis and Oxford was definately one of mine (I LOVE the sound of their course on their site!!)

    Hmm... I still have a while to think about it really. Is that a general rule for all joint honours courses, the fact you're less likely to get it?
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    (Original post by acp11)
    sorry didn't think this was worth another thread: how about Law and Business joint honours?
    As you're aiming for business, that's probably ok. It's unlikely that it is a qualifying law degree, so for anyone else reading this: if you wish to practise law, ensure that your degree is a qualifying law degree. Joint law degrees often are not qualifying law degrees.
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    Nope. They're no less respected than single honours.
 
 
 
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