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    (Original post by Tabris)
    Lots of UT2.

    Just do stuff like an hour on the erg at r18 at UT2 pace (I'm sure your coaches can help you figure that out) to build your fitness up.

    Obvs it isn't so simple, but long distance work will help your fitness...
    Okay! What's UT2 stand for? Sorry, not heard that term before. I've done half hour ergo's before, but after that i'm pretty much screwed. So I'll have to work at it Thanks!
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    (Original post by Dave_Beeston)
    Okay! What's UT2 stand for? Sorry, not heard that term before. I've done half hour ergo's before, but after that i'm pretty much screwed. So I'll have to work at it Thanks!
    First thing I found on Google to explain. I'm hanging out of my arse at the moment, so this will do it better than I can.

    http://www.pponline.co.uk/encyc/rowi...formance-35856
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    If you go to Shrewsbury Id stick to your programme! They're pretty good at churning out decent rowers. Time in the water is probably the most important thing for schoolboys imo. By the time you get to uni smashing out good 2ks becomes a fair bit easier just because of your physiology. Being someone that can actually move a boat is a lot more useful.

    On a side note we nearly took 3 pennants today at Quintin Moving towards being the 2nd strongest uni club in england too hopefully :shifty:
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    (Original post by partoftheweekend)
    If you go to Shrewsbury Id stick to your programme! They're pretty good at churning out decent rowers. Time in the water is probably the most important thing for schoolboys imo. By the time you get to uni smashing out good 2ks becomes a fair bit easier just because of your physiology. Being someone that can actually move a boat is a lot more useful.

    On a side note we nearly took 3 pennants today at Quintin Moving towards being the 2nd strongest uni club in england too hopefully :shifty:
    OH were you one of the boats at UL boathouse?

    We were wondering who they were. I forgot it was Quintin this weekend!
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    Just checked the Quintin results.

    Pretty good effort by UL.

    Guessing their IM1 boys are good enough to be Senior/Elite at the very least but decided to enter for IM1?
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    (Original post by Tabris)
    Just checked the Quintin results.

    Pretty good effort by UL.

    Guessing their IM1 boys are good enough to be Senior/Elite at the very least but decided to enter for IM1?
    Yeah definitely will be racing elite in summer. Elite is pretty much sewn up at Quintin with Cambridge being their. Likewise senior and LRC to a lesser extent.
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    (Original post by partoftheweekend)
    Yeah definitely will be racing elite in summer. Elite is pretty much sewn up at Quintin with Cambridge being their. Likewise senior and LRC to a lesser extent.
    My bad, I got you and the guy from newcastle mixed up again of course you were at UL boat house.
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    (Original post by Jessaay!)
    My bad, I got you and the guy from newcastle mixed up again of course you were at UL boat house.
    Couldn't tell you as I'm not really training with the uni boat club at the moment.

    But if it was blue lycra with white and red stripes and the blue star on the oars, it was NUBC alright.
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    (Original post by Tabris)
    Couldn't tell you as I'm not really training with the uni boat club at the moment.

    But if it was blue lycra with white and red stripes and the blue star on the oars, it was NUBC alright.
    Fair play! Yep it was definitely them then, I doubt many other places have a blue star on their oars. Pretty cool oars though.
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    Yeah, we really milk the blue star thing up here.

    I do love it though. Bit of a shame I have to stop, but c'est la vie. Need to pick up this years kit anyway... bit of a wasted order.
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    I was also wondering, do universities like Cambridge seem to favour 8+ rather than 4+?

    I had another session today in a 4+ and I just hate it It's twice as hard to balance, twice as hard to move, and even worse when you're in an italian rigged boat!
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    (Original post by Dave_Beeston)
    I was also wondering, do universities like Cambridge seem to favour 8+ rather than 4+?

    I had another session today in a 4+ and I just hate it It's twice as hard to balance, twice as hard to move, and even worse when you're in an italian rigged boat!
    Cambridge race in 8's but also do things like 4's head in fours and other things I guess like training and seat racing. Same with most other unis. Also the 2 student events at henley are either in 8's or a 4+ so basically at the end of the year you'll end up in one or the other depending on numbers. Like you said 4's tend to be harder so its good training to spend time in them, as with other small boats.

    Not sure what an italian rig is but I guess you mean what I call bucket or frig rigged. Can be useful as long as you clear you puddles
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    Has anyone ever capsized before (into like a river for example)? This sounds rather melodramatic I know!

    Its just that my illogical fear of drowning to death if the boat capsizes is keeping me from actually 'having fun' or concentrating on the rowing whilst out in the water, as I keep thinking if I go into the river (the Thames in my case), I'll just end up drowning and dying b/c its so deep and big.

    I know how to swim essentially, but I've always swum wearing googles and a nose clip, which I don't obviously wear whilst rowing etc. I know that one naturally floats to the top of water if you hold your breath anyway, from which point you can find your footing and swim, but I guess I'm really asking those who row but don't think of themselves as super confident swimmers and in particular experienced a capsize situation. I can swim in a pool nice and fine, but being tossed sideways into the river with a boat above your head etc, isn't (obviously I know) the same thing :/

    I realise the logical step would be to get more swimming lessons and head to the pool etc, but I don't have the time at the moment annoyingly...
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    (Original post by manchild007)
    Has anyone ever capsized before (into like a river for example)? This sounds rather melodramatic I know!

    Its just that my illogical fear of drowning to death if the boat capsizes is keeping me from actually 'having fun' or concentrating on the rowing whilst out in the water, as I keep thinking if I go into the river (the Thames in my case), I'll just end up drowning and dying b/c its so deep and big.

    I know how to swim essentially, but I've always swum wearing googles and a nose clip, which I don't obviously wear whilst rowing etc. I know that one naturally floats to the top of water if you hold your breath anyway, from which point you can find your footing and swim, but I guess I'm really asking those who row but don't think of themselves as super confident swimmers and in particular experienced a capsize situation. I can swim in a pool nice and fine, but being tossed sideways into the river with a boat above your head etc, isn't (obviously I know) the same thing :/

    I realise the logical step would be to get more swimming lessons and head to the pool etc, but I don't have the time at the moment annoyingly...
    Have you not done capsise drills?
    For one thing, it's very difficult, as I've said, to capsise an 8. For another thing, it's not even a massive issue to capsise. The boat will still float, you just hang on to it essentially so unless you're in some sort of monsoon there's probably going to be little change you're going to lose the boat and drown. Also even in the thames there are people around to help and response boats.
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    (Original post by Jessaay!)
    Have you not done capsise drills?
    For one thing, it's very difficult, as I've said, to capsise an 8. For another thing, it's not even a massive issue to capsise. The boat will still float, you just hang on to it essentially so unless you're in some sort of monsoon there's probably going to be little change you're going to lose the boat and drown. Also even in the thames there are people around to help and response boats.
    We haven't done capsize drills (I did have capsize drills for canoeing, but this was like 10 years ago now ha!) - though every time we row, the club has a rescue boat on standby, but that usually patrols a large stretch of water and so it isn't near us very much.

    My fear of drowning is just something which has kept me back and I know its irrational, so I guess I was just looking for some reassurance as to those who may have capsized and not been the ultimate best of swimmers but managed to survive. I'm going to be rowing in a 4-skull(sp?) boat this week, which shall undoubtedly be a lot more difficult to keep steady given the team is pretty new and its easier to tip sideways I assume, than a usual 8 boat.

    Could I just also say Jessaay, thank you so much for your help - you've saved someone who otherwise would have let his fear simply keep him away from rowing. When things are going 'right' on the river (i.e. team/boat is in sync and weather is perfect etc), its honestly the best feeling in the world (particularly in the summer), so I thank you for making me stick with it
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    Boy rower found drowned in river (BBC)
    A 14-year-old boy has drowned after falling out of his boat while rowing on the River Thames.

    He fell from the one-man vessel while rowing at Caversham in Reading, Berkshire, just before 10am on Sunday.

    His body was discovered at 1pm after a three-hour search involving underwater divers and helicopter crews.

    A Thames Valley Police spokeswoman said the body found was that of a 14-year-old boy who would be formally identified on Monday.
    I know, he was in a single-sculling boat and he went out without anyone else looking out for him, which increased his chances of a potential accident - but stories like the above seem to make me so much more nervous for some idiotic reason :rolleyes:
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    (Original post by manchild007)
    We haven't done capsize drills (I did have capsize drills for canoeing, but this was like 10 years ago now ha!) - though every time we row, the club has a rescue boat on standby, but that usually patrols a large stretch of water and so it isn't near us very much.

    My fear of drowning is just something which has kept me back and I know its irrational, so I guess I was just looking for some reassurance as to those who may have capsized and not been the ultimate best of swimmers but managed to survive. I'm going to be rowing in a 4-skull(sp?) boat this week, which shall undoubtedly be a lot more difficult to keep steady given the team is pretty new and its easier to tip sideways I assume, than a usual 8 boat.

    Could I just also say Jessaay, thank you so much for your help - you've saved someone who otherwise would have let his fear simply keep him away from rowing. When things are going 'right' on the river (i.e. team/boat is in sync and weather is perfect etc), its honestly the best feeling in the world (particularly in the summer), so I thank you for making me stick with it
    My friend capsised in a single scull in the thames, in the dark (he was rowing in the evening, obviously) in November/december last year. Obviously it was scary in the dark, and the water was freezing. Also the diving reflex sets in (a physiological reflex which occurs when your face has been submerged in cold water which is involuntary and intends to prevent you drowning) and he couldn't easily shout for help because this, sort of, makes you hold your breath so it came out as a stutter. He just held on to his boat until he was helped. If you have a rescue boat you're fine. Also, as for your fear of drowning if you don't wear your nose thing, as I said, the diving reflex is a clever thing- your body is intended to naturally prevent these sorts of things happening. There's literally nothing to worry about unless you're rowing in a monsoon and everything is out of control.
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    (Original post by manchild007)
    I know, he was in a single-sculling boat and he went out without anyone else looking out for him, which increased his chances of a potential accident - but stories like the above seem to make me so much more nervous for some idiotic reason :rolleyes:
    Well stop looking for these stories :p: The number of people who capsise and die compared to the number of people who capsise and are perfectly fine is incredibly low.

    Does the number of people who die when crossing a road stop you crossing a road? It's pretty much the same thing really. There are dangers to practically everything.
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    (Original post by Jessaay!)
    Well stop looking for these stories :p: The number of people who capsise and die compared to the number of people who capsise and are perfectly fine is incredibly low.

    Does the number of people who die when crossing a road stop you crossing a road? It's pretty much the same thing really. There are dangers to practically everything.
    Good point.

    For once I think I'm actually going to go to a session without constantly worrying about ending up as a local news item from drowning

    PS. Just one last question - our gym has the usual rowing tank (i.e. manual/self-powered), but there is a private gym (which we're allowed to use for free), that has one of those automated tanks (apparently to simulate real rowing conditions) but its about another 60 minutes away from where I live.

    Just wondering, have you experienced both and did you substantially prefer one over the other? If the automated tank is a real help to ones technique, I may as well go the extra 60 minutes each week.

    Thanks.
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    (Original post by manchild007)
    Good point.

    For once I think I'm actually going to go to a session without constantly worrying about ending up as a local news item from drowning

    PS. Just one last question - our gym has the usual rowing tank (i.e. manual/self-powered), but there is a private gym (which we're allowed to use for free), that has one of those automated tanks (apparently to simulate real rowing conditions) but its about another 60 minutes away from where I live.

    Just wondering, have you experienced both and did you substantially prefer one over the other? If the automated tank is a real help to ones technique, I may as well go the extra 60 minutes each week.

    Thanks.
    I've never tried one of the automated ones at all so can't help you there!
 
 
 
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