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    (Original post by Jessaay!)
    Speaking of falling off the erg at the end, sometimes I fall off the seat during the actual erg/water session. It doesn't happen often, and definitely not in races or anything so not a huge problem, but occurs when I'm really forcing the power down with my legs. Generally I just fall back onto my seat with the momentum but there will be some air time. I'm not sure which area of my technique to target to stop this happening completely. Any enlightenment?
    I assume you mean during the drive phase, where you're supposed to get 'suspension' but you're suspending a little too much? It's good to feel your weight lift off the seat slightly, as that means your weight is being transferred to the blade & into the water and it makes the boat lighter, but obv it's not brill to be fully coming off the seat. I used to do this all the time, and tbh the only way I've found to sort it out is to concentrate on pushing my weight backwards rather than up. Also make sure you're keeping your hands at the right height - when I over-suspended I would always dig my blade.
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    Does anyone seated in the engine room find it really hard to get power in? I was with the 2nd VIII due to one of the regulars having tonsilitis and we were doing 3, 2, 1 pieces. (3mins at 20, 2mins at 22, 1min at 24) so fairly low rating when it should be easiest to get the power in.

    Anywho, we were doign a set distance, not sure what it was, but the first piece was 16:25 and the second was 14:40. Surprisingly I wasn't actually that tired. I mean I was out of breath by the time we stopped, but not like ergo-stopping breathenessless. I can only assume it's because I was in the engine room (5 specifically, in a bow-rigged boat) even though I was getting full length strokes and I seemed to be pulling my weight.

    Am I just getting fitter exceptionally quickly? :P
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    (Original post by Dave_Beeston)
    Does anyone seated in the engine room find it really hard to get power in? I was with the 2nd VIII due to one of the regulars having tonsilitis and we were doing 3, 2, 1 pieces. (3mins at 20, 2mins at 22, 1min at 24) so fairly low rating when it should be easiest to get the power in.

    Anywho, we were doign a set distance, not sure what it was, but the first piece was 16:25 and the second was 14:40. Surprisingly I wasn't actually that tired. I mean I was out of breath by the time we stopped, but not like ergo-stopping breathenessless. I can only assume it's because I was in the engine room (5 specifically, in a bow-rigged boat) even though I was getting full length strokes and I seemed to be pulling my weight.

    Am I just getting fitter exceptionally quickly? :P
    Its very hard to tire yourself out in the boat like you would on the erg. For one thing technique deteriorates a lot faster, leading to smaller muscles being knackered and becoming the limiting factor way before they should be. Also if you weren't at race rate then its much less tiring. If you were at 34+ and not tired then there might be some problems!
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    (Original post by partoftheweekend)
    Its very hard to tire yourself out in the boat like you would on the erg. For one thing technique deteriorates a lot faster, leading to smaller muscles being knackered and becoming the limiting factor way before they should be. Also if you weren't at race rate then its much less tiring. If you were at 34+ and not tired then there might be some problems!
    Agreed, the low rate work won't tire you out like a 2k on an erg will, simply because it's more aerobic work being done - you have more time to get oxygen to your muscles.

    Whilst on a shorter fast piece you'll get really out of breath as your body is trying to take in enough oxygen to get to your muscles much quicker.

    Although you may not be breathless, you should still feel the pain in your muscles from driving really hard, heavy strokes.
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    (Original post by dobbs)
    Agreed, the low rate work won't tire you out like a 2k on an erg will, simply because it's more aerobic work being done - you have more time to get oxygen to your muscles.

    Whilst on a shorter fast piece you'll get really out of breath as your body is trying to take in enough oxygen to get to your muscles much quicker.

    Although you may not be breathless, you should still feel the pain in your muscles from driving really hard, heavy strokes.
    Yeh I was definitely feeling the strain on my legs, sort of like they were edging towards cramp. Today, however, was a completely different story. 6, 3, 2 piece. 6mins at 24, 3mins at 26, 2 mins at 28. I was ******* knackered! I got swapped out after the first piece as one of the original, but ill, 2nd VIII members was being phased back in. I was struggling after 6 minutes haha! Managed to keep it going though, even if my blade work got a tad sloppy after 9 minutes, and I really had to fight to keep it going. Even the 3 minute on the ergo as a warm up tired me out! That was full pressure and at 1:45 split (for me), but managed to keep it dead on pace wise! Got exactly 857m which is according to the Concept2: Pace Calculator is a 1:45 split haha.

    So yeh, erg's and fast paced rowing hurt. Low rates are my friend
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    In boring/interesting rowing news this week. GB trials just happened.

    In the pairs, Constantine Louloudis', 19 year old guy who rows at Oxford came 7th overall beating 2 pairs which both had rowers from the GB 8+ in them. Triggs-Hodge/Pete Reed won as expected.

    And in the singles Campbell won and there were 6 lightweights in the top 12 scullers :O and our 2 best lightweight scullers weren't even there...

    Also new aussie 4- in the works. Could mess up our 4 in 2012...
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    for all those that gave me pointers about 2ks, i just thought i would tell you i did it in 8.14 which was the fastest of all the novice girls

    thanks for all your help! xx
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    (Original post by victoria13)
    for all those that gave me pointers about 2ks, i just thought i would tell you i did it in 8.14 which was the fastest of all the novice girls

    thanks for all your help! xx
    Well done

    Though as I'm Durham alumni, I must say BOOOOO COLLINGWOOD Haha
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    (Original post by dobbs)
    Well done

    Though as I'm Durham alumni, I must say BOOOOO COLLINGWOOD Haha
    And as a Newcastle student I have to say.


    YEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAH DURHAM.
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    (Original post by dobbs)
    Well done

    Though as I'm Durham alumni, I must say BOOOOO COLLINGWOOD Haha
    hahahaha booo trevs.....
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    (Original post by victoria13)
    for all those that gave me pointers about 2ks, i just thought i would tell you i did it in 8.14 which was the fastest of all the novice girls

    thanks for all your help! xx
    that's really fantastic- congrats!!
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    (Original post by victoria13)
    for all those that gave me pointers about 2ks, i just thought i would tell you i did it in 8.14 which was the fastest of all the novice girls

    thanks for all your help! xx
    Well done! Glad you're happy with it hope we prepared you okay now go do a 6k full pressure! Go Go Go! :P
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    I know this is going to sound stupid. But:

    1) is there something bad about doing an A1 5k every day?
    2) is it okay for me to be out of breath during an A1?
    3) should I not train on this: http://www.dooyoo.co.uk/sports-equip...lta-airmaster/ it's pretty old, and I can't take full strokes. But unless I'm allowed to take home an ergo from school, it's all i've got.

    Thanks
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    My new kit came today. I'm beginning to appreciate the subtle beauty of blue and yellow lycra.
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    Can't beat Shrewsbury's White and Blue lycra :P I've come to love my one piece <3

    Oh, and that Nintendo A cappella is ****ing awesome! haha
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    (Original post by Dave_Beeston)
    Can't beat Shrewsbury's White and Blue lycra :P I've come to love my one piece <3

    Oh, and that Nintendo A cappella is ****ing awesome! haha
    My home club is blue and white, it seems fairly unoriginal :p: They do compliment me a lot on the colours of my team. Rowers are weird.

    I LOVE the Nintendo A cappella. It does make me feel vaguely old though.
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    (Original post by Jessaay!)
    My home club is blue and white, it seems fairly unoriginal :p: They do compliment me a lot on the colours of my team. Rowers are weird.

    I LOVE the Nintendo A cappella. It does make me feel vaguely old though.
    Well, i'm 17 and I recognised all of those. So whether that just means i'm geeky or not, you shouldn't be feeling old :P Yeh, I mean our boats are just standard empacher too, we don't have any specialist sprays at all. But then again, our 1st VIII make up for it!
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    (Original post by Dave_Beeston)
    Well, i'm 17 and I recognised all of those. So whether that just means i'm geeky or not, you shouldn't be feeling old :P Yeh, I mean our boats are just standard empacher too, we don't have any specialist sprays at all. But then again, our 1st VIII make up for it!
    We have one blue boat with yellow seats and blue riggers:




    but other than that they're fairly standard. Also that picture is showing some awful technique but the only one from the collection where our eyes are actually in the boat and in which I'm not doing a more pained version of this smiley :ahee: with my mouth. Our kit's more blue and yellow and exciting now :woo:

    2 is squaring late :no:


    Edit: I just realised how much I ramble. I'm supposed to be doing work but instead admiring blue and yellow boats.

    PS. I definitely feel old :p: I remember the release of the N64. Joyous occasion.
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    In other news, I was just reminded because I was having a massive rant with my flatmate on the subject of rowing. My boat is made up of a few of my closest friends, which does make it difficult to be objective sometimes. The girl at 6 hasn't been rowing much this year until this term, when she's been rowing marginally more than another girl. She rowed in our boat as a novice last year so should be up to par mostly with us all. However, the other girl was kicked out of the boat for this one race just because she's not been turning up to the water sessions as much,and my friend has been put at 6. She's quite stubborn and doesn't really understand the concept of "team" but that's beside the point :p: Basically she keeps catching crabs. It's not just a few, the other day we were doing a 15 minute race piece and she caught not 1, not 2, but 8. WTF EIGHT?! They're not small crabs, they're huge crabs that pretty much stop the boat and she takes at least 30 seconds to get her blade back. We have one more outing before our next race, which is a head race.

    The worst part about it is though, that my captain told me rather uncoherently on friday (we were drunk and ranting) that she says it's not down to her technique but says instead "I lose concentration". This is quite clearly bull**** and even if you do lose concentration, that must mean there's something wrong with her technique then as well. To put the cherry on the cake she said "I could recover faster but I need about 30 seconds to regain composure and relax into it". We were like WHAT, THIS IS A RACE PIECE, ROWING IS NOT ABOUT RELAXING.


    Obviously we can't be too mean about it, especially considering she's our friend but what on earth do we do? We don't even know what she's doing in terms of technique as we don't have a coach at the moment. She might be slightly overfeathering but i've not noticed, she NEVER catches with stroke and also she seems to do something weird with her outside elbow, like it comes up almost as high as her shoulder. Which is very bizarre and we do shout "ELBOW" at her occasionally but it doesn't work.

    Help? :cry:
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    (Original post by Dave_Beeston)
    I know this is going to sound stupid. But:

    1) is there something bad about doing an A1 5k every day?
    2) is it okay for me to be out of breath during an A1?
    3) should I not train on this: http://www.dooyoo.co.uk/sports-equip...lta-airmaster/ it's pretty old, and I can't take full strokes. But unless I'm allowed to take home an ergo from school, it's all i've got.

    Thanks
    Try to find a second hand C2 if anything. There's no point in using an erg that isn't a RP or a C2 imo.

    (Original post by Jessaay!)
    My new kit came today. I'm beginning to appreciate the subtle beauty of blue and yellow lycra.
    There's nothing like getting new kit.

    It's a shame I won't be using my new stash until April at the absolute earliest.
 
 
 
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