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Reply 1
isn't ephedra still legal in the UK? i don't have a clue, since i'm always in need of more fat.
Reply 2
chewwy
isn't ephedra still legal in the UK? i don't have a clue, since i'm always in need of more fat.

No, its illegal, although i believe Maximuscle sell it...somehow? Apparently there are loads of studies all showing that it works well, but there are meant to be quite a few side effects. I think its meant to raise your metabolic rate, and bodys temperature. If you do it too much then your temperature can become very high and unsafe. You may end up sweating bucket loads
Reply 3
Lil_J
No, its illegal, although i believe Maximuscle sell it...somehow? Apparently there are loads of studies all showing that it works well, but there are meant to be quite a few side effects. I think its meant to raise your metabolic rate, and bodys temperature. If you do it too much then your temperature can become very high and unsafe. You may end up sweating bucket loads


it's available in a variety of supp stacks but i want the basic stack.
Reply 4
cambridgemuscle
it's available in a variety of supp stacks but i want the basic stack.

Is it? Heard that it was illegal?
Reply 5
lessthanthree
what's ECA Stack?

Fat burning/anti catabolic product...which i thought was made illegal.
Reply 6
from what ive read of ephedrine, its results are mostly due to appetite suppresion - the raise in metabolism having very little effect really. But people seem to use it and like it so I guess it works.

Ephedrine is just wannabe meth anyway - get the real ****


--Joe
Reply 7
lessthanthree
what's ECA Stack?

yes, i get to explain stuff to a mod.

ECA - ephedrine, caffeine, asparin. take them together ('stack' them). They all raise metabolism levels, cause all kinds of stuff which helps you lose weight.

i know loads about the ephedrine status in the US, but pretty much nothing about it here. All i remember is that Kerry McFadden/Katona used it to help her weight loss, thanks to the good people at Woman's Own. therefore i would presume it to be attainable here.

now being presumably quite young, why do you feel you will benefit greatly from ECA cambridgemuscle? are you morbidly obese, or trying to get into contest shape? if neither of these, personally i wouldn't use it, but whatever...
Reply 8
i'm cutting. guy down the gym went from lardy to ripped in 4 weeks. just looking for that extra bit of help before Ibiza.
Ephedrine is not illegal.

It is legal when used to treat asthmatic conditions. It is illegal to be sold/marked as a fat burning supplement.

Ephedrine is not to be used by kiddies looking to loose a few pounds because they cant be arsed to diet and exercise, if that's all your doing, save yourself some time and money and dont bother, because you wont see results.

It is purely used as an 'aid', it is only beneficial when you combine it with a calorie controlled diet and regular exercise.

Typical dosages would include, 20-30mg ephedrine, 200mg caffeine 75-150mg asprin - 3 times daily, split 3-4 hours apart. Dont take your last dose past 4-5pm or it will affect your sleeping patterns.

the E and C work TOGETHER to promote weight-loss, boost energy and enhance athletic performance.. Asp is there just to prolong the effects created by the other two ingredients (and to thin your blood)

Typical side effects include:

anxiety, shaking,increased sweating, lightheadedness, dizziness, light headache, gastrointestinal distress, insomnia, irregular heartbeat, increased heart rate, heart palpitations, inreased blood pressure, stroke, seizures, psychosis etc..people who are easily depressed should be on a watch out because the eph will increase their depression. You can also get a wired feeling when you take it, but this goes away soon. Increased sweating/heat production means you need to drink more water. People with a history of heart problems should just keep away from eph. Moreover, ephedrine can be addictive if taken for more than 6 months. Increased sweating/heat production means you need to drink more water.

It will loose its effectiveness after 4-5 weeks of daily use, so you will need to stop for 3-4 weeks.

I really dont see the need for you to take it at all, its not a lazy mans way to getting lean/thin, it is purely an AID.

It is used sometimes by athletes or body builders as it helps preserve muscle mass when dieting/cutting.

Any further questions, please feel free to ask. I will not tell you where to get it or what products it is contained in.
Reply 10
twistedheaven
Ephedrine is not illegal.

It is legal when used to treat asthmatic conditions. It is illegal to be sold/marked as a fat burning supplement.

Ephedrine is not to be used by kiddies looking to loose a few pounds because they cant be arsed to diet and exercise, if that's all your doing, save yourself some time and money and dont bother, because you wont see results.

It is purely used as an 'aid', it is only beneficial when you combine it with a calorie controlled diet and regular exercise.

Typical dosages would include, 20-30mg ephedrine, 200mg caffeine 75-150mg asprin - 3 times daily, split 3-4 hours apart. Dont take your last dose past 4-5pm or it will affect your sleeping patterns.

the E and C work TOGETHER to promote weight-loss, boost energy and enhance athletic performance.. Asp is there just to prolong the effects created by the other two ingredients (and to thin your blood)

Typical side effects include:

anxiety, shaking,increased sweating, lightheadedness, dizziness, light headache, gastrointestinal distress, insomnia, irregular heartbeat, increased heart rate, heart palpitations, inreased blood pressure, stroke, seizures, psychosis etc..people who are easily depressed should be on a watch out because the eph will increase their depression. You can also get a wired feeling when you take it, but this goes away soon. Increased sweating/heat production means you need to drink more water. People with a history of heart problems should just keep away from eph. Moreover, ephedrine can be addictive if taken for more than 6 months. Increased sweating/heat production means you need to drink more water.

It will loose its effectiveness after 4-5 weeks of daily use, so you will need to stop for 3-4 weeks.

I really dont see the need for you to take it at all, its not a lazy mans way to getting lean/thin, it is purely an AID.

It is used sometimes by athletes or body builders as it helps preserve muscle mass when dieting/cutting.

Any further questions, please feel free to ask. I will not tell you where to get it or what products it is contained in.


I know now mate so know worries. I want it to cut before Ibiza. I've been upping cardio to 2 45min sessions a day and reduced cal to 2500 and carbs to 200g (complex), 50g (simple) a day. ECA is gonna help shift the last bit.
i assume you've upped your protein intake as well?
Reply 12
Does CLA(Conjugated Linoleic Acid) work well? Effects?
Lil_J
Does CLA(Conjugated Linoleic Acid) work well? Effects?


Many people claim CLA 'helps' them with their weight loss goals, there is no documented evidence to support claims other than research done on animals.

Cant hurt to try i guess, most supplements are pointless if you dont exercise and have a good diet though.
Reply 14
twistedheaven
Many people claim CLA 'helps' them with their weight loss goals, there is no documented evidence to support claims other than research done on animals.
Cant hurt to try i guess, most supplements are pointless if you dont exercise and have a good diet though.

S'pose. Might try it next spring. Not bothering to cut this yyear...too late. I'l just continue bulking this throughout, then try it then.
Lil_J
S'pose. Might try it next spring. Not bothering to cut this yyear...too late. I'l just continue bulking this throughout, then try it then.


Id suggest SAN tight for cutting, works pretty well.
Reply 16
twistedheaven
Id suggest SAN tight for cutting, works pretty well.

Heard about that...you used it? What supplements you use when bulking? You on a cut now?
Reply 17
Ephedrine is a banned substance in athletic and natural bodybuilding events now, so if you ever plan on competing as a natural I'd steer well clear.
Lil_J
Heard about that...you used it? What supplements you use when bulking? You on a cut now?


Im cutting.

When bulking, its a combination of whey, dextrose, maltodextrin, creatine or CEE, L glutamine & MRPS :smile:
Reply 19
twistedheaven
Im cutting.
When bulking, its a combination of whey, dextrose, maltodextrin, creatine or CEE, L glutamine & MRPS :smile:

Flippin eck! How much do you spend on it all per month, roughly. What whey do you use? You use L glutamine, as in peptide? Ive heard that glutamine in amino acid form is pretty usless?