[QUOTE=Bismarck]The day Hitler invaded the Soviet Union, Stalin sent Molotov with an offer to give up Belarus, the three Baltic states, and most of the Ukraine if Hitler agreed to a cease-fire.
Correct. lets assume that hitler followed this course of action. most probably the Russians would bide their time then snatch it back (probably from public pressure). In this case hitler would be fighting them either way, better sooner (in an unprepared state, shown with the desperate acts Stalin deployed to deter hitler from fighting), then later (with the russians more prepared easily outnumbering any number of germans in the area
All he did was make Allied soldiers fight even harder because they knew that surrender wasn't an option. The same applies to the countries Hitler occupied. If Hitler treated the occupied people humanely, they probably wouldn't be as willing to rise up against him.[/QUOTE=Bismarck]
Hmm...i honestly did not take this into account. All i can rebuke this with is that when france was occupied it was split into two parts, one with the germans occupying it and one the germans did not occupy (but did place a puppet gov't their). So in a sense surrender is an option (as illustrated by france)
ps. this i very irrelevant but i find it curious that you name yourself Bismarck
and calling Hitler an idiot. the Bismarck was the most famous german battleship of WW2, named after of course the great diplomat Bismarck
With it being very late now i need to sleep. thanx for the intellectual discussion, esp. bismarck. i;ll continue this tomorro morning. others:feel free to add any (intellectual) additions to this. others: good night
Hitler was a political genius in the sense he gave the people what they wanted and needed. The Treaty of Versailles humilated Germany and the reparations and Great Depression crippled the country. All the governments before the Nazi's failed to address the problems in post-war Germany. Hitler led the country to recovery, and infrastucture such as the Autobahns are still envied today.
Militarily I would say Hitlers use of 'Blitzkrieg' was genius. Until the end of 1941 the German army had successes that stand out as some of the greatest in history. The decision to invade Russia so close to Winter was the beginning of the end and Hitler became a prize idiot. It was also a massive, massive mistake to declare war on America.
I'm not sure the whole holocaust thing made Hitler an idiot, it just made him one of the most evil men in history. Not as evil as Stalin but then Stalin did have longer in power.
I get the impression his lack of applied intellectual discipline to the fields he tackled, and tried to act an authority in, made him not just a loud-mouthed dabbler, but an idiot. His misinterpretation of Nietzsche, Wagner and others would have made him a laughing stock if he didn't have an army of knee-cap-blasting thugs behind him.
In the early years he had massive support pretty much unparallelled. So yeah he had pretty powerful leadership qualities. Pity he was a megalomaniac really.
HITLER WAS THE FELON!
HE (OR IT - THE BEAST) KILLED MANY HUMANS FROM POLAND...
AND NOT ONLY!
All over the world occurs the untrue opinion about
the polish participation in WW2...
It's invidious for us!
Fine he killed an uncomprehendable number of people, for 'trivial' reasons. But you have to 'respect' the man's ability, charisma, and intelligence, to grip a nation like that is something unparalleled and i doubt it will ever be repeated.