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That is not what he said. And what's this **** about "palestinian" land? Since when has it EVER belonged to any "palestinians"? It was British, then Jordanian/Egyptian, with absolutely NO "palestinians" claiming any sort of homeland. Then Israel captured it in a defensive-war, and the terrorist scum you support invented the "palestinians" to lend some credibility to claim the land, as admitted by the PLO. So, **** off, you piece-of-crap liar.
Hundreds of housands of Palestininas still have the deeds to the land that was stolen from them. So actually, yes, they did own the land. The area was called Palestine 100 years ago by the British, as it was an seperate area from other Arab mandates. Therefore the people there were and are Palestinians.

Both. The ICJ issues non-binding advisory opinions, the GA makes resolutions that are not binding. The separation barrier (95% fence, not wall) is a passive security measure against terrorism, to object to it is to desire more casualties on both sides.
It's a barrier that cuts into Palestinian territory.

The vast majority left voluntarily at the behest of arab states
So the Nakba never happened? Jewish errorist ethnic cleansing never occured?

Since when has quoting two internet links, to a fairly radical group who present their own agenda, been "proof" of anything, you moron?
The links were to pages which contained evidence not opinion. So the fact it is on that particular website isn't relevant. Is the quote it refers to real? Je pense oui.

The very fact that you have to promote the heinous, disgusting and demonstrable LIE that there was zionist/nazi co-operation proves what lengths you and your scum supporters will go to to push your racist, anti-semitic agenda.
How can you call me anti semititc How can you call a socialist, an anti fascist someone who has listened on the verge of tears to people like Leon Greenman recount their horror stories of the holocast racist or anti semitic? You should learn what anti semitism means before you bandy the term about.

The arabs are the most compulsive and repeated liars on the planet, to their own people and to the world.
Oh but I'm the racist?
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ArthurOliver - Are you ignoring me?
At college? Yeah.

On here? No!

I'll look you up some day. First I'll trawl your posts for any slights or insults.
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Why has my post been deleted???

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That is not what he said. And what's this **** about "palestinian" land? Since when has it EVER belonged to any "palestinians"? It was British, then Jordanian/Egyptian, with absolutely NO "palestinians" claiming any sort of homeland. Then Israel captured it in a defensive-war, and the terrorist scum you support invented the "palestinians" to lend some credibility to claim the land, as admitted by the PLO. So, **** off, you piece-of-crap liar.
‘Defensive war’ Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahhaha. Let me get this straight there were no Palestinian people living on the area of land the Zionist are now controlling? silly me. my mistake. Why don’t you go and dispose of decrepit propaganda motivating, fabricated pro-zionist, Arab racist history books and then go climb back into the fairy hole you emerged from.


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Both. The ICJ issues non-binding advisory opinions, the GA makes resolutions that are not binding. The separation barrier (95% fence, not wall) is a passive security measure against terrorism, to object to it is to desire more casualties on both sides.
Of course it is. An RACISTAPARTHEID WALL OF SEPERATION IS JUST. You are funny lol. Maybe we should just separate all blacks Asians Muslims Jews Hindus with walls, that would solve the entire worlds problem you racist **** How about IDS stop shooting Palestinian girls in the head instead to save lives.


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The vast majority left voluntarily at the behest of arab states, believing that they would return once Israel ws destroyed. They f--ked up, and now they want to come back and live in a state that they seek the destruction of?
Sorry, no.
TRANSLATED: I don’t really give a **** about peace. I don’t give a **** about Palestinians, let them all die, I don’t care. Who gives a **** about the Palestinian refugee’s right to return? I'm a Zionist who care only about the interests of maintaining a Jewish national racist sate and don’t give a **** who we kill on our way.


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The arabs are the most compulsive and repeated liars on the planet, to their own people and to the world. They've cooked-up stories, invented news and lied their way through life, with historical revisionism and blatant, shameless deception. They've lost wars because they hate the truth so much. You are merely following in their footsteps, you pathetic, lying moron.
BIGOTED INTOLERANT PREDUJICED FANATICAL NARROW MINDED RACIST ZIONIST. Go join the Nazis they had the same idea as you.
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Hundreds of housands of Palestininas still have the deeds to the land that was stolen from them. So actually, yes, they did own the land. The area was called Palestine 100 years ago by the British, as it was an seperate area from other Arab mandates. Therefore the people there were and are Palestinians.
And more lies. Much of the land that became Israel was bought by Jews from absentee landlords, you just push the lie that they still have the deeds, because it suits your terrorist cause. The mandate was simply not separate, it was for a long time referred to as an aspect of Syria, then it was linked with Jordan as the mandate, before that was split away in to Transjordan. More historically inaccurate lies from you.

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So the Nakba never happened? Jewish errorist ethnic cleansing never occured?
The Nakba refers to the creation of Israel, that was considered the catastrophe to the arabs. And indeed, there were very small, limited Zionist terror groups, but they never had mainstream support and the "ethnic cleansing" you describe is mostly fabricated. Indeed, the FOUNDATIONAL DOCUMENT of Israel invited any Arabs who want to, to stay and live in peace. That's why 20%+ of the Israeli population is Arab. The fact remains, the majority of arabs left because they were instructed to by arab forces.

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The links were to pages which contained evidence not opinion. So the fact it is on that particular website isn't relevant. Is the quote it refers to real? Je pense oui.
"Evidence" that has been thoroughly discredited over the years.

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How can you call me anti semititc
Because you are. I don't care what you say, you object to the existence of and violently hate the one Jewish state on Earth, and are silent on what all others do. You demonise and deligtimise Israel out of all proportion to any other state. You support the murder of its civilians. You're an anti-semite of the worst kind. At least the BNP admit it.

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Oh but I'm the racist?
Yes, you are.

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‘Defensive war’ Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahhaha.
Are you denying that the Six Day War was defensive? You're more of an ignoramus than I thought.

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Let me get this straight there were no Palestinian people living on the area of land the Zionist are now controlling? silly me. my mistake.
Exactly. There were arabs who were not a people, had no nationality, no desire for a homeland, no identity as a people. That's why the term palestinian was used to refer to Jews etc. who lived in the mandate, rather than to any arab nation of people. They are an invention, as the PLO acknowledged.

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Of course it is. An RACISTAPARTHEID WALL OF SEPERATION IS JUST.
How can a wall be racist? And do you even know what apartheid means, idiot?

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Go join the Nazis they had the same idea as you.
Actually, I believe that the elimination of Jews is far more in line with your ideas, than mine.
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And more lies. Much of the land that became Israel was bought by Jews from absentee landlords, you just push the lie that they still have the deeds, because it suits your terrorist cause. The mandate was simply not separate, it was for a long time referred to as an aspect of Syria, then it was linked with Jordan as the mandate, before that was split away in to Transjordan. More historically inaccurate lies from you.
Wrong. The Jews had bought tiny amounts of land compared to the land they were granted when Palestine was divided. You don't believe that Palestinians still have deeds? It's a fact. And Transjordan was always made up of two parts and one part was referred to as Palestine.

The Nakba refers to the creation of Israel, that was considered the catastrophe to the arabs. And indeed, there were very small, limited Zionist terror groups, but they never had mainstream support and the "ethnic cleansing" you describe is mostly fabricated. Indeed, the FOUNDATIONAL DOCUMENT of Israel invited any Arabs who want to, to stay and live in peace.
Very small? Some were given weapons by the USSR! No mainstream support? Wasn't the first Premier of Israel in a terror group? Wasn't Sharon?

"Evidence" that has been thoroughly discredited over the years.
How can you discredit a quote? He either said it or he didn't.

Because you are. I don't care what you say, you object to the existence of and violently hate the one Jewish state on Earth, and are silent on what all others do. You demonise and deligtimise Israel out of all proportion to any other state. You support the murder of its civilians. You're an anti-semite of the worst kind. At least the BNP admit it.
Clearly you don't understand what anti semitic eans. Anti semitism is an irrational hatred of people because they are Jewish. Not a political and ideological opposition to a country. How am I silent on what others do? I do not only talk about Israel. When have I supported the murder of civilians? Do not put words in my mouth.


Yes, you are.
So to stand with thousands of Jews who oppose Israel is racist but to call 'Arabs' liars as a race isn't?
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(Original post by Northumbrian)
Wrong. The Jews had bought tiny amounts of land compared to the land they were granted when Palestine was divided.
False, firstly. Secondly, it is largely irrelevant anyway as they were given the land.

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And Transjordan was always made up of two parts and one part was referred to as Palestine.
No, for a very long time the whole area was considered to be an extension of Syria. There was never a permanent Arab people or nation in "palestine" known as palestinians. It simply didn't exist.

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Very small? Some were given weapons by the USSR!
Really. Which. And why did the USSR then back the Arab world against Israel consistently?

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How can you discredit a quote? He either said it or he didn't.
And with the record of your sort when it comes to fabricating quotes, I wouldn't trust it as far as I can spit.
Anyway, the quotes don't show any of the zionist/nazi co-operation that you claim, even if they are true. At most they show a willingness to utilise the events.

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No mainstream support?
Indeed, the mainstream Zionist leadership consistently condemned them and Israel, once it was created, outlawed them. That's what civilised states do with regards to groups of that nature. Shame Iran, Syria and any future palestinian state aren't/won't be like that.

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Wasn't the first Premier of Israel in a terror group? Wasn't Sharon?
No and no.

(Original post by Northumbrian)
Clearly you don't understand what anti semitic eans. Anti semitism is an irrational hatred of people because they are Jewish.
Yup, that's you.

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Not a political and ideological opposition to a country.
When it is the ONLY Jewish country on the planet and its the one out of hundreds that you pick on, demonise, defame and attack?
Why is it that one if you have no dislike of Jews?
Why do you deny their right to self-determination, to have their own state?

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So to stand with thousands of Jews who oppose Israel is racist but to call 'Arabs' liars as a race isn't?
The Arabs lost the West Bank through lies, that's the amusing thing. Egypt lied about the fact it was getring screwed in the Six Day War, which drew Jordan in despite Israeli warnings to stay out. If Egypt had been honest about what was happening then Jordan probably wouldn't have joined and the West Bank wouldn't have been lost.
Then again, the palestinian lies are believed by the world now, so I guess sometimes the lying does work, eh?
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False, firstly.
Go and look at a map of Jewish controlled land before the partition. It aint nearly as much as what became Israel.

it is largely irrelevant anyway as they were given the land.
You brought it up!

No, for a very long time the whole area was considered to be an extension of Syria. There was never a permanent Arab people or nation in "palestine" known as palestinians. It simply didn't exist.
So how did around 600 000 Arabs move/get chucked out if they weren't there? And by the way, what about the Jews! Hardly a united population permanently living in the Holy Land eh?

Indeed, the mainstream Zionist leadership consistently condemned them and Israel, once it was created, outlawed them.
'm guessing you don't count Haganah as terrorists.

Yup, that's you
So why don't I hate the neturei karta? Why do I admire people like Marx and Einstein?

When it is the ONLY Jewish country on the planet and its the one out of hundreds that you pick on, demonise, defame and attack?
Are there hundreds of countries? And I pick on quite a few if you haven't noticed.

Why do you deny their right to self-determination, to have their own state?
a) Because they self determined themselves in a place where there were already people living and b) since when do religious group have the right to state self determination?
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Go and look at a map of Jewish controlled land before the partition. It aint nearly as much as what became Israel.
Actually, the land that was given to Israel had a Jewish majority. And indeed, they may have not had as much land as became Israel, but then again, the majority of original territory was given to the Arabs in the form of Jordan anyway. And Jordan is 4.5times bigger than Israel with a lower population.

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So how did around 600 000 Arabs move/get chucked out if they weren't there?
Oh, there were Arabs there, but not any "palestinians", and the ones that were there were a very fluid, disparate and not at all united population. TThere simply is not a people or nation or set of people known as palestinians, they were invented as a weapon against Israel in the 1960's.

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And by the way, what about the Jews! Hardly a united population permanently living in the Holy Land eh?
But there is a Jewish people, and there is no palestinian people. And there was a Jewish presence in that area for millenia, it's sad that they were scattered as they were, however.

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'm guessing you don't count Haganah as terrorists.
No, I ****ing well do not.

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So why don't I hate the neturei karta? Why do I admire people like Marx and Einstein?
Why do you attack the one Jewish state, why do you deny one people the right to self-determination? Why do you support the destruction of the only Jewish state?
Just a coincidence, right?

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Are there hundreds of countries? And I pick on quite a few if you haven't noticed.
Picking on the US too, doesn't count. And the way you back Iran, a known terrorist-sponsor, woman-oppressor, rights-denier and criticise Israel is disgusting.

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a) Because they self determined themselves in a place where there were already people living
A place that they had a historic connection to and a permanent presence of some size in for millenia, where there was no established population or state, and where they were perfectly within their rights to move to. They built their own towns and cities out of the deserts and the swamps. Had the Zionists not moved there, it'd probably still be unused.

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and b) since when do religious group have the right to state self determination?
Jews are not just a religious group.
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Actually, the land that was given to Israel had a Jewish majority.
After Arabs were chased out sure!

Oh, there were Arabs there, but not any "palestinians", and the ones that were there were a very fluid, disparate and not at all united population. TThere simply is not a people or nation or set of people known as palestinians, they were invented as a weapon against Israel in the 1960's.
So who the **** are Israelis?

Picking on the US too, doesn't count. And the way you back Iran, a known terrorist-sponsor, woman-oppressor, rights-denier and criticise Israel is disgusting.
If you think I back Iran you've obviously not been paying attention.

A place that they had a historic connection to and a permanent presence of some size in for millenia, where there was no established population or state, and where they were perfectly within their rights to move to. They built their own towns and cities out of the deserts and the swamps. Had the Zionists not moved there, it'd probably still be unused.
The Celts still have a presence in Northumberland. Only 300 000 people live there, why not kick em out and let all the displaced Irish people move there? Hmm.

Jews are not just a religious group.
Oh sorry I forgot, white blonde Jews, medditteranean Jews, Arab Jews, Indian Jews and black Ethiopian Jews are a race. Yaha.
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After Arabs were chased out sure!
No, in fact that was before the Arabs left (stop propagating the lie that they were chased out). Look at the statistics, the area given to Israel by the UN had a majority Jewish population.

(Original post by Northumbrian)
So who the **** are Israelis?
People from Israel.

(Original post by Northumbrian)
If you think I back Iran you've obviously not been paying attention.
Oh please. A quick reference to your words in a multitude of other topics would instantly confirm that you do.

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The Celts still have a presence in Northumberland. Only 300 000 people live there, why not kick em out and let all the displaced Irish people move there? Hmm.
Heh! You really are incredibly desperate, aren't you? Do I need to point out the ridiculous amount of differences in the situations?

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Oh sorry I forgot, white blonde Jews, medditteranean Jews, Arab Jews, Indian Jews and black Ethiopian Jews are a race. Yaha.
Did I say they were a "race"? A people, a nation. However you want to define it, to claim that it is merely a religion is deliberately to deceive.
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No, in fact that was before the Arabs left (stop propagating the lie that they were chased out). Look at the statistics, the area given to Israel by the UN had a majority Jewish population.
Look at zionist quotes about the expulsion of Arabs being vvital to the creationg of a Jewish state. Look at Dayr Yasin.

People from Israel.
But there was no such thing during the mandate. Or before.

Oh please. A quick reference to your words in a multitude of other topics would instantly confirm that you do.
You've obviously been in some sort of parallel universe.

Heh! You really are incredibly desperate, aren't you? Do I need to point out the ridiculous amount of differences in the situations?
Your argument was that the Jewish people had a right to self determination in a land that they had historical connexions to in a land which was sparsely populated with a people of no national identity. What is the difference?

Did I say they were a "race"? A people, a nation. However you want to define it, to claim that it is merely a religion is deliberately to deceive.
'jews' are merely a religion. Orthodox Jews tend to be of Judean heriatage as do many non Orthodox Jews. What about a Baha'i national homeland too?
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Exactly. There were arabs who were not a people, had no nationality, no desire for a homeland, no identity as a people. That's why the term palestinian was used to refer to Jews etc. who lived in the mandate, rather than to any arab nation of people. They are an invention, as the PLO acknowledged.
So why does "Israel" exist? why is it still not called Palestine? with both Palestinians and Jews living in the same place? Are you denying Israelis ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, Arab people whatever you want to call them??? You’re so deluded it’s unreal!


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How can a wall be racist? And do you even know what apartheid means, idiot?


Actually, I believe that the elimination of Jews is far more in line with your ideas, than mine.
1) Apartheid: Racial tribal and economical separation. Essentially meaning segregation. = Wall

2) Racist = racism means beliefs, practices, and institutions that discriminate against people based on their perceived or ascribed race. = Wall

The wall cuts through Palestrina land, denying thousands access to basic amenities.

3) Who said anything about elimination of Jews??? don’t put words in my mouth. Your the racist fascist. My argument is all Palestinians should be allowed to return to their land. It the Zionist Israelis who want to eliminate Palestinians. Why are you so defensive when some one utters the word Palestine and rights. Zionists have serious compassion issues. Modern day NAZI’S.
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Look at zionist quotes about the expulsion of Arabs being vvital to the creationg of a Jewish state. Look at Dayr Yasin.
Ah, perfect example. A military engagement, lied about and exaggerated, just like Jenin, in order to turn opinion against Israel. Really demonstrates that lying *******s like you have been active throughout history.
Why should anyone ever believe the rubbish that the palestinians spout, the world has seen how they lied about jenin, how they lied abour al-dura, how they lie and deceive and fake events to further their manufactured 'cause'.

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But there was no such thing during the mandate. Or before.
Ah, but there was, wasn't there. The Kingdoms of Israel were there centuries ago.

(Original post by Northumbrian)
You've obviously been in some sort of parallel universe.
From what I've seen on this forum, you repeatedly back Iran.

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Your argument was that the Jewish people had a right to self determination in a land that they had historical connexions to in a land which was sparsely populated with a people of no national identity. What is the difference?
Everything from the fact that Celts have somewhere to live without persecution, to the fact that they were not scattered, historical differences of a staggering magnitude.

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'jews' are merely a religion. Orthodox Jews tend to be of Judean heriatage as do many non Orthodox Jews.
Sorry, it is more than a religion. "The Jewish people", perhaps not a race, as such, but definitely a group clearly definable by more then religion.
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So why does "Israel" exist? why is it still not called Palestine?
Because the area was divided up in to two and the Zionists accepted that and founded Israel whilst the Arabs desired the destruction of the Jews?

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with both Palestinians and Jews living in the same place? Are you denying Israelis ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, Arab people whatever you want to call them???
20%+ of the Israeli population is Arab, as in the Israeli DoI you will see that they are invited to stay in peace. How many people in a future palestinian state will be Jewish? And yet you accuse Israel of ethnic cleansing and racism? Hah, you're a ****ing joke you ignorant moron.

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You’re so deluded it’s unreal!
You're a lying idiot. Like the rest of the terrorists on your side.

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1) Apartheid: Racial tribal and economical separation. Essentially meaning segregation. = Wall
What ********. There is not separation on racial grounds, a large percentage of Israel's population is ARAB and they have the same civil, political etc. rights as any others. There is no enforced segregation, look at the facts rather than lying like the disgusting racist you are. The barrier is there to keep out terrorists, not enforce a racial agenda, only the most insane anti-Israel f--kwits like you make such claims. So, that's an entirely unfounded accusation. Next...

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2) Racist = racism means beliefs, practices, and institutions that discriminate against people based on their perceived or ascribed race. = Wall
Just as much crap as the above. People in Israel have complete cultural and religious freedom be they Arab, Jew, Druze, Bedouin whatever. This contrasts with the anti-christian activities and disgusting anti-semitic rhetoricn that is ENDEMIC in the territories.

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My argument is all Palestinians should be allowed to return to their land.
A land that they left in order to ease the destruction of Israel and the annihilation of the population? Now they want to come back and demographically decimate Israel. That takes some ****ing nerve.

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Modern day NAZI’S.
Drop by a Hamas rally and look who's yelling 'death to jews'.

You are an ignorant, illiterate idiot, who knows nothing of the facts and merely spouts every anti-Israel lie, perversion and disgusting piece of rhetoric they can find. You have no thoughts of your own, no knowledge, you are a diseased, brainwashed anti-semite, the scum of the modern world.
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You are an ignorant, illiterate idiot, who knows nothing of the facts and merely spouts every anti-Israel lie, perversion and disgusting piece of rhetoric they can find. You have no thoughts of your own, no knowledge, you are a diseased, brainwashed anti-semite, the scum of the modern world.
And you're obviously what we should all strive to become. Your minuscule excuse for a brain contains only the history you fabricated. On what grounds can you call me an ant-Semite when I am a Semite?! It’s your pathetic ways of attempting to obtain sympathy due the lack of it given to you by commonsensical people. You’re the one spewing repulsive bigoted racist comments about Arabs. When I take a bout separation I’m talking about Palestinian people from their land. Surprisingly not everything centralises around Jews. "Arabs live in Israel" is always thrown about in an attempt to give you credibility, when the truth is they are discriminated in everyway possible. Not propaganda, I have spoken to some of them, but obviously that’s all further lies as well. You’re so defensive due to your fear of the spoken truth, hence you pitiable attempts at intimidation... sound familiar....
Ps Try to expand upon you dictionary of moron is getting rather monotonous.
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What ********. There is not separation on racial grounds, a large percentage of Israel's population is ARAB and they have the same civil, political etc. rights as any others. There is no enforced segregation, look at the facts rather than lying like the disgusting racist you are. The barrier is there to keep out terrorists, not enforce a racial agenda, only the most insane anti-Israel f--kwits like you make such claims. So, that's an entirely unfounded accusation. Next...
Sorry I just read this again, it’s actually quite impressive. LOL. Palestinians lived on a piece of land. They where kicked off and are not allowed to return. Are you denying this fact? Is this ********? Whether they deserved to or not in your eyes are you denying it happened? That is segregation go look it up. If the barrier is to keep out terrorists why does it annex through Palestinian land? As I recall theirs a lovely little piece of graffiti on the wall that state, "death to all Arab *******".
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Why should anyone ever believe the rubbish that the palestinians spout, the world has seen how they lied about jenin, how they lied abour al-dura, how they lie and deceive and fake events to further their manufactured 'cause'.
How does anyone know what happened in Jenin when Israel sealed of the town for days on end refusing acces to UN inspectors?

Ah, but there was, wasn't there. The Kingdoms of Israel were there centuries ago.
Don't you mean millenia? And wasn't there a Palestine mentioned in the bible too?

From what I've seen on this forum, you repeatedly back Iran.
So basically because I think Iran has the right to a nuke and that I oppose military agression against Iran, I become it's backer?

Everything from the fact that Celts have somewhere to live without persecution, to the fact that they were not scattered, historical differences of a staggering magnitude.
Look up the Highland clearances. And now you bring how far you have to be scattered before you can have a state into it.

Sorry, it is more than a religion. "The Jewish people", perhaps not a race, as such, but definitely a group clearly definable by more then religion.
But you're unable to explain how.

a large percentage of Israel's population is ARAB and they have the same civil, political etc. rights as any others.
You are a joker!
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How does anyone know what happened in Jenin when Israel sealed of the town for days on end refusing acces to UN inspectors?
Because the acknowledged death toll by the Israelis, UN and palestinians are now almost exactly the same. And number only dozens, many of whom were armed fighters. At the time however, the lying palestinian scum told reporters of "hundreds/thousands" dead and "massacres", now completely demonstrable inventions and lies.

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Don't you mean millenia? And wasn't there a Palestine mentioned in the bible too?
No link to the manufactured "palestinians" of today, however. Rather a smart choice of name, though, confuses the issue no end.

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So basically because I think Iran has the right to a nuke and that I oppose military agression against Iran, I become it's backer?
Pretty much, I think most people would agree with that.

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Look up the Highland clearances. And now you bring how far you have to be scattered before you can have a state into it.
Not at all, just pointing out the ridiculous and idiotic way that you bring completely different and entirely distinguishable events in to the picture to confuse the issue.

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You are a joker!
You're a piece of **** liar. Why don't you back your false allegations with some FACTS, rather than slanderous hearsay and implication, you utter moron.
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On what grounds can you call me an ant-Semite when I am a Semite?!
Oh, the usual ****-wit fallback of playing semantic word-games. Everyone knows what anti-semite means today, playing ****ing pathetic semantic games doesn't help your cause, *******.

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It’s your pathetic ways of attempting to obtain sympathy due the lack of it given to you by commonsensical people.
Whereas the screaming scum on your side have common-sense?! They lie through their ****ing teeth, constantly.

(Original post by mesoptamia)
You’re the one spewing repulsive bigoted racist comments about Arabs.
Really? Like what? Calling them liars? That's got a sound basis in fact, it's not bigoted or racist.

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when the truth is they are discriminated in everyway possible.
Really? They are represented in the Knesset, they can all vote, they have full cultural and religious rights, they are even exempted from serving in the IDF if they choose, so they don't have to fight against other Arabs. And now you BASELESSLY assert that they are discriminated against. LYING ****.

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Not propaganda, I have spoken to some of them, but obviously that’s all further lies as well.
Yes, you seem to be remarkably deceitful. You've told dozens of lies in this topic.
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Palestinians lived on a piece of land. They where kicked off and are not allowed to return. Are you denying this fact?
Yes. Look at what ***** you talk. They were not "kicked off" their land, all Arabs were invited to stay in Israel on their land. Many chose to leave, many stayed. Also, they were not "palestinians", they were arabs, no different from those in every other surrounding ARAB country, they had no right to a state of their own, there are dozens of arab states.
So, yes, I deny you're ****** lies, revisionism of history and deceit.

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Is this ********?
Yup. You're a liar.

(Original post by mesoptamia)
That is segregation go look it up.
Your dictionary must be very different to mine. The dictionary of terrorist ****wits, perhaps?

(Original post by mesoptamia)
If the barrier is to keep out terrorists why does it annex through Palestinian land?
Because that's what the situation on the ground requires. Sticking a barrier down in a particular place amy not meet the required targets of stopping mass-murderers penetrating Israel, it is positioned as required.

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As I recall theirs a lovely little piece of graffiti on the wall that state, "death to all Arab *******".
And that's a point? You can't back that up, you can't say who wrote it, and yet you try to turn it into an "argument".
When the palestinians chant "death to jews", scream encouragements of genocide from mosques, celebrate those who mass-murder Israeli civilians, teach their children hatred and lies...
And then you have the SHEER ****ING NERVE to try and accuse ISRAEL of racism etc.?

Palestinians and Arabs can support death of Jews and terrorism and you have no comment, and yet Israel, the most tolerant, liberal, democratic state in the region is the target for your vitriol. Any more evidence needed of your disgusting anti-semitism?

You are despicable you little craphead.

Anyway, I've argued with you anti-semitic, terrorist-loving, lying shitheads long enough. I hope you and your pathetic, asswipe "society" wither up and die like the disgusting little liars and terrorists you are. The lies you tell will eventually **** you up. Deservedly.
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