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    (Original post by *titanium*)
    First you say the israeli people are ok, its just the government and military, now you say they deserve to die. What land did i invade? I deserve to die do it? i am guilty of being born.

    Well you could move out of Israel. If your not a zionist what reason is there to stay in Israel. You will have to join the military when you are of right age. You might end up coming in conflict with palestinians/Lebanese.

    Of course Jews have been living in Palestine before the zionist movement. The only problem is almost all of the jews who live in Palestine now live because of zionism. The only group that i can think of that live in Palestine because they were actually living there when the jews in europe didn't even dream of zionisim yet. Jewish groups like Neturei Karta (who i have heard are disliked by the majority).


    It is sad to see the palestinian people suffering. While Zionists are denying that they lived in Palestine (the stupid ridiclious smear campaing that some writers seem to love. Like the palestine being empty until arabs moved into it just before the jews dids)

    I guess you just have to have faith. God will never let people suffer to much. The Black Africans were slaves and are now equal members of society. I'm just hoping that the when the palestinians do get their land. It isn't a bloody orgy with a lot of dead jews. Because that would mean the infrascture would be damaged and the palestinians would have to rebuild the country.
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    (Original post by Tibia)
    Well you could move out of Israel. If your not a zionist what reason is there to stay in Israel. You will have to join the military when you are of right age. You might end up coming in conflict with palestinians/Lebanese.

    Of course Jews have been living in Palestine before the zionist movement. The only problem is almost all of the jews who live in Palestine now live because of zionism. The only group that i can think of that live in Palestine because they were actually living there when the jews in europe didn't even dream of zionisim yet. Jewish groups like Neturei Karta (who i have heard are disliked by the majority).


    It is sad to see the palestinian people suffering. While Zionists are denying that they lived in Palestine (the stupid ridiclious smear campaing that some writers seem to love. Like the palestine being empty until arabs moved into it just before the jews dids)

    I guess you just have to have faith. God will never let people suffer to much. The Black Africans were slaves and are now equal members of society. I'm just hoping that the when the palestinians do get their land. It isn't a bloody orgy with a lot of dead jews. Because that would mean the infrascture would be damaged and the palestinians would have to rebuild the country.

    You are beyond patheitc.
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    (Original post by *titanium*)
    You are beyond patheitc.
    I disagree, totally. He's talking the truth.
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    (Original post by *titanium*)
    You are beyond patheitc.

    So are you.
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    How do i join this soc?
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    (Original post by 10inchpianist)
    How do i join this soc?
    Refer to the 'Join here' link in my sig, find the PalSoc in the Societies List and apply to join.
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    This place is frozen :eek:
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    http://ifamericansknew.org/about_us/gazaw.html Interesting video!
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    I saw a video in Youtube of what Israel did in Lebanon. Man was it gruesome.

    How wonder how many pro war Israelis have seen the carnage over there? They cry when a Hezbollah hits rockets in Northern Palestine yet they ignore the fact that the Lebanese and the Palestinians suffer 100x more then they do.
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    Well the way the middle east is portrayed by the media is disgusting i mean they are always shown as the enemy i find thi sincredibly sad. I think you need to live there for a while before passing judgements and saying all of the middle east is corrupt. However i feel that some governments in the region have bought it on themselves.
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    Article from counterpunch.

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    August 30, 2006
    The Worst Kind of Terror
    Murder on Rucarb Street
    By ELIZA ERNSHIRE

    Ramallah.

    August 29, Pre-dawn.

    It is only now that the gun-fire saluting the killed young man has become sporadic and no longer constant, and that the verses of the Koran, chanted in farewell to him, has ceased. But the streets are full; and full too are the hearts of all who had to witness an attack that should only have been imaginable in the darkest back alleys of some underworld city.

    At 9 pm, the 28th, undercover Israeli Special Forces walked down the main street of Ramallah. They wore civilian clothes and Palestinian police-caps. They carried M-16s as all the police force does. No one looked at them twice. They walked straight past us where we stood at Al-Minara discussing work with a third colleague.

    They walked straight passed the Palestinian Police Force as well who is always stationed there.

    They continued walking straight down Rucarb Street until they were opposite the famous Rucarb Ice-cream shop where families gather every evening in the summertime.

    Then they opened fire.

    They opened fire after they failed to catch two 'wanted' men who were also in Rucarb Street along with half the population of Ramallah. The two men wouldn't come when called and so the undercover Israeli Officers opened fire.

    It is not easy to explain the horror of seeing the cold-blooded murder of the young man who had turned to escape on realizing the situation.

    It is not easy to explain the horror of hearing the name of the killed youth spreading from mouth to mouth until the whole of Ramallah knows that the young man killed was A. from the village of Deir Ghassan. Nor is it easy to explain the horror of rushing with everybody else who knows an A. from that village or a nearby one to the hospital.

    The relief if the body pulled from the fridge is not your A.

    The anguish if it is.

    Grown men falling on the ground to beat at the dirt and cry.

    The parents of the killed man stumbled into the hospital at midnight. The father could not even see his son because he was temporarily blinded by the shock and the screams of the mother could be heard from the street.

    Young men were also in shock, wandering around and wondering why they had not even had a chance to fight back. There was an overwhelming feeling of powerlessness.

    Palestine has been so reduced and so humiliated that it is now a country where the Occupying force can walk into a main city on nightfall, can walk down the main street of that city and kill a man and then walk away again as if that is a damn right of theirs and no one is going to blink an eye at it.

    It is not their damn right to come and terrorize the people of a city night after night after night on some hyped up 'security' reason! This is no human being's right.

    I have been accused of not understanding how people are feeling on the other side of the Wall. People have written to me 'You don't know what it is like to be driving behind a bus when it explodes' and I say this is true. But I do know what it is like to see fifteen thugs walk down a main street of a city at nightfall and murder in cold-blood outside a family restaurant and then walk away again.

    I call that the worst kind of terror.

    The boy they killed was just a village boy, and the children who witnessed this killing were just children. As in all parts of the world, children who had begged their parents for an ice-cream before going to bed.

    Nhow they must live with this violation of their sensitivity forever.

    And the thugs could just walk away! They did not even need jeeps to perform their action of terror.

    These men were not desperate. Not one of them would tie an explosive belt around his waist.What I am most afraid of is that they enjoy what they do. To them and to too many others, the lives of Palestinians are, at most, only countable.

    There was a three-second coverage of this news item on BBC. 'Three militants killed in the West Bank. One in Ramallah and two in Nablus; all were from the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade.'

    One second for each man killed.

    I won't begin a discussion on why, by naming the Martyrs Brigade, the West is somehow justifying the deaths, because the purpose of this article is only to register horror at the nighttime terror that came in so particularly a disgusting way to the streets of Ramallah four hours ago.And also to say that now the city is angry.

    The young men who have been gathering for hours in groups on street corners are angry. Some have been crying, and all have been voicing their disbelief at how on earth Israel can continue to get away with their inhuman actions; not only nightly midnight raids and arrests but also this gangster plot that has left the main street of their city stained with blood again.

    In the past two weeks Israeli forces have come to Ramallah every single night. There is now a vigil in the dark hours of these nights; from 2am till 5am half the city is awake watching and wondering where Israel's eyes are turned and what neighborhood they are targeting.

    In the past week Israel has made daily incursions into Nablus and has destroyed houses and killed 16-year old boys in broad daylight, and has raided the city every night. For the past month the whole village district of Ramallah and Nablus have been enduring invasions and raids, house-searches and arrests.

    While Olmert is taking a few blows about his conduct of the war in Lebanon, the Palestinians are having to endure being his 'dog-under-the-table'.

    How on earth is he and Israel getting away with it?


    Still, the zionists blockading lebanon YET Us can still supply israeli? BS!
    Listen out for those radar guiding stealth missiles!
    Still occupying the south of lebanon. :rolleyes:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/5299938.stm - this makes you sick when they can use such illegal weapons and how the bias media white-wash it. Then again, the BBC is not any better at reporting.

    http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0824-32.htm

    edit - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5302298.stm
    Our correspondent said incidents of this nature were very rare despite the large number of Israeli citizens who carry firearms.
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    One question for all those pro-palestianian whingers out there; if being arab and being muslim are such important ties of brotherhood that wars are being waged over them, why don't the arab countries get together n just shave off a little land, call it palestine, and be done with the whole fiasco?!
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    (Original post by prince of persia)
    One question for all those pro-palestianian whingers out there; if being arab and being muslim are such important ties of brotherhood that wars are being waged over them, why don't the arab countries get together n just shave off a little land, call it palestine, and be done with the whole fiasco?!
    Truly amazing.
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    (Original post by prince of persia)
    One question for all those pro-palestianian whingers out there; if being arab and being muslim are such important ties of brotherhood that wars are being waged over them, why don't the arab countries get together n just shave off a little land, call it palestine, and be done with the whole fiasco?!
    I wish it was that easy!
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    Well the thing is the issue is just overcomplicated; at the risk of sounding facetious so much of this fighting is because people aren't getting enough money and aren't having enough sex. So basically, legalise prostitution and get all the arab states to collectively contribute some money towards housing, food etc.. and bingo, you have yourself a peaceful middle east!
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    (Original post by prince of persia)
    Well the thing is the issue is just overcomplicated; at the risk of sounding facetious so much of this fighting is because people aren't getting enough money and aren't having enough sex. So basically, legalise prostitution and get all the arab states to collectively contribute some money towards housing, food etc.. and bingo, you have yourself a peaceful middle east!
    And introduce a huge HIV epidemic on top of the other problems the middle east has ? Click the link at the bottom of my sig to see why the problems in the middle east occur before being a douche.
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    Lol, well no HIV prevention would come under money, money buys condoms..where's the problem?
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    (Original post by prince of persia)
    One question for all those pro-palestianian whingers out there; if being arab and being muslim are such important ties of brotherhood that wars are being waged over them, why don't the arab countries get together n just shave off a little land, call it palestine, and be done with the whole fiasco?!
    There's nothing more endearing than a bitter Iranian. :rolleyes:

    It's the principle of the thing. The existing Arab states shouldn't have to 'shave off a little land'. The Palestinians already had their own land until it was confiscated from them.
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    Why are Iranians bitter about it?
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    (Original post by prince of persia)
    Well the thing is the issue is just overcomplicated; at the risk of sounding facetious so much of this fighting is because people aren't getting enough money and aren't having enough sex. So basically, legalise prostitution and get all the arab states to collectively contribute some money towards housing, food etc.. and bingo, you have yourself a peaceful middle east!
    Knowing the strong sexual overtones of Arab culture, I'm sure that's not the case.
 
 
 
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