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Student nurses who say they are always busy
Student nurses always say that they work so hard and its time consuming but do they mean time consuming as in you have a lot of homework, assignments or time consuming as in you are commited to being on placement/in uni a lot? Its just Ive seen a student nurse timetable the other day they get 10 weeks annual leave, and are only on placement half the time thats like 5/6 months a year. How is it harder than working a full time or even part time job?
Im not putting them down, just asking.
Im not putting them down, just asking.
10 weeks annual leave ? not many unis offer that, but the places in considering have 5 or 6 weeks annual leave
From seeing the student nurses and working alongside them (and I can only vouch for those trained at Coventry university), I thoroughly believe they work very hard and are an integral part of the nursing staff both on the ward and in the community. It's analogous to medicine really...having started clinicals I'm expected to clark in patients, examaine them, take bloods/insert lines, work out what could be wrong with them and discuss potential management strategies with my seniors. In other words, do some of the work of a junior doctor (with supervision of course).
It's the same for nurses really. Students on a vocational course learn primarily through shadowing their peers and becoming more active as they learn more and work towards gaining their diploma/degree. From knowing that nurses work very hard and having chatted to some of the student nurses, I'm 99.9% confident that they work pretty hard! So what if they have 10 weeks annual leave...most students have about 5 months of holiday a year
It's the same for nurses really. Students on a vocational course learn primarily through shadowing their peers and becoming more active as they learn more and work towards gaining their diploma/degree. From knowing that nurses work very hard and having chatted to some of the student nurses, I'm 99.9% confident that they work pretty hard! So what if they have 10 weeks annual leave...most students have about 5 months of holiday a year
i currently work full time at 40 hours a week and get 4weeks annual leave. i also have entrance exams for private schools i am revising for. do some voluntary work, attend church and have to see my family and bf regularly.
i do believe that nurses work less than this (correct me if i am wrong) as when your in uni (theory) is less hours a week and you generally get onger hols. so technically i, as a tyipica full time worker do work longer hours than student nurses. however i get a good wage and when i do get a week or two off i can afford to go on holiday or do something that costs alot with out the presure of having to hand in assignments when i get back. as a nursing student with a nhs bursary of $300/500 a month and the inportance of their placements/ theory i think being a nurse would be harder emotionaly and financially. it is not the hours as a student nurse that i think will take up my time, i think worrying about money (because i am so use to having a good wage), organising self study, getting to placements at diffenet hospitals and generally trying to have a good social life will weigh me down.
people can very easily get use to working long hours and fitting all there other stuff in. but working student nursing hours and the responsibility that goes with it is, i imagin, very difficult. and prob a reason why so many drop out.
OP - you also have to remember that if a nursing student(or most students) dose get 10weeks off you can be garanteed that they will have a lot of self study/assignment to do in that time. so it is not really time off.
i do believe that nurses work less than this (correct me if i am wrong) as when your in uni (theory) is less hours a week and you generally get onger hols. so technically i, as a tyipica full time worker do work longer hours than student nurses. however i get a good wage and when i do get a week or two off i can afford to go on holiday or do something that costs alot with out the presure of having to hand in assignments when i get back. as a nursing student with a nhs bursary of $300/500 a month and the inportance of their placements/ theory i think being a nurse would be harder emotionaly and financially. it is not the hours as a student nurse that i think will take up my time, i think worrying about money (because i am so use to having a good wage), organising self study, getting to placements at diffenet hospitals and generally trying to have a good social life will weigh me down.
people can very easily get use to working long hours and fitting all there other stuff in. but working student nursing hours and the responsibility that goes with it is, i imagin, very difficult. and prob a reason why so many drop out.
OP - you also have to remember that if a nursing student(or most students) dose get 10weeks off you can be garanteed that they will have a lot of self study/assignment to do in that time. so it is not really time off.
Holamigo
In my Uni I will get 7 weeks annual leave - other courses get more than that just in the SUMMER.
It's harder than working part-time/ full time because they do full-time hours on placements aswel as having assignments and work to research!
It's harder than working part-time/ full time because they do full-time hours on placements aswel as having assignments and work to research!
This. Im currently working 13 hour long days, 4 times a week, and have assigments and e-lectures to complete also...most students get far far far more time off than us... and besides, other students often manage to get their lectures cancelled/ finish an hour early so they end up with the rest of the afternoon off.... or they dont start lectures again till 11 the next morning so can afford to go out and still manage to get sleep. Nursing takes up your life... but its well worth it
crap, 10 weeks annual leave where do they go?! and holamigo 7 weeks!? not fair! I only know one course which has more annual leave and thats the Msc in nursing science at nottingham..maybe its them you're thinking of? They have normal term time holidays
I have 6 weeks off a year, work do my allocated hours on placement, plus 12 hours a week on my part-time job, and roughly spend around 4-5 hours doing assignments, revision..and then ofcourse I have my netball team, friends..so yeah, don't mind if i complain i'm busy please?
I have 6 weeks off a year, work do my allocated hours on placement, plus 12 hours a week on my part-time job, and roughly spend around 4-5 hours doing assignments, revision..and then ofcourse I have my netball team, friends..so yeah, don't mind if i complain i'm busy please?
anon2010
i currently work full time at 40 hours a week and get 4weeks annual leave. i also have entrance exams for private schools i am revising for. do some voluntary work, attend church and have to see my family and bf regularly.
i do believe that nurses work less than this (correct me if i am wrong) as when your in uni (theory) is less hours a week and you generally get onger hols. so technically i, as a tyipica full time worker do work longer hours than student nurses. however i get a good wage and when i do get a week or two off i can afford to go on holiday or do something that costs alot with out the presure of having to hand in assignments when i get back. as a nursing student with a nhs bursary of $300/500 a month and the inportance of their placements/ theory i think being a nurse would be harder emotionaly and financially. it is not the hours as a student nurse that i think will take up my time, i think worrying about money (because i am so use to having a good wage), organising self study, getting to placements at diffenet hospitals and generally trying to have a good social life will weigh me down.
people can very easily get use to working long hours and fitting all there other stuff in. but working student nursing hours and the responsibility that goes with it is, i imagin, very difficult. and prob a reason why so many drop out.
OP - you also have to remember that if a nursing student(or most students) dose get 10weeks off you can be garanteed that they will have a lot of self study/assignment to do in that time. so it is not really time off.
i do believe that nurses work less than this (correct me if i am wrong) as when your in uni (theory) is less hours a week and you generally get onger hols. so technically i, as a tyipica full time worker do work longer hours than student nurses. however i get a good wage and when i do get a week or two off i can afford to go on holiday or do something that costs alot with out the presure of having to hand in assignments when i get back. as a nursing student with a nhs bursary of $300/500 a month and the inportance of their placements/ theory i think being a nurse would be harder emotionaly and financially. it is not the hours as a student nurse that i think will take up my time, i think worrying about money (because i am so use to having a good wage), organising self study, getting to placements at diffenet hospitals and generally trying to have a good social life will weigh me down.
people can very easily get use to working long hours and fitting all there other stuff in. but working student nursing hours and the responsibility that goes with it is, i imagin, very difficult. and prob a reason why so many drop out.
OP - you also have to remember that if a nursing student(or most students) dose get 10weeks off you can be garanteed that they will have a lot of self study/assignment to do in that time. so it is not really time off.
you're not even at school- yet doing private school entrance exams?!
Uni is roughly 7.5-9hours a day in theory, including breaks
Placement (which is 50% of the time) it's a 40hour week due to staying late etc sometimes
It's £'s we work in, not $'s this isn't america
The NMC states that you have to have x number of hours completed in theory and practical before you can be a registered Nurse. I can't remember how many hours it is, but it's a lot, so for that to be condensed into a 3/4 year course, sacrifices have to be made in the way of holidays. :P I did a year of uni after I left school and frankly, I got bored very quickly on the 4/5 months I had off in the summer. Unless you have a job, and friends with no jobs, there isn't a lot to do.
I'm starting a Nursing course in September and I know it's going to be a lot of work, a lot more than what I did on my year at uni previously. I don't mind though, it's what I want to do so I'm going to put the work in.
I'm starting a Nursing course in September and I know it's going to be a lot of work, a lot more than what I did on my year at uni previously. I don't mind though, it's what I want to do so I'm going to put the work in.
Fail-To-Impress
The NMC states that you have to have x number of hours completed in theory and practical before you can be a registered Nurse. I can't remember how many hours it is, but it's a lot, so for that to be condensed into a 3/4 year course, sacrifices have to be made in the way of holidays. :P I did a year of uni after I left school and frankly, I got bored very quickly on the 4/5 months I had off in the summer. Unless you have a job, and friends with no jobs, there isn't a lot to do.
I'm starting a Nursing course in September and I know it's going to be a lot of work, a lot more than what I did on my year at uni previously. I don't mind though, it's what I want to do so I'm going to put the work in.
I'm starting a Nursing course in September and I know it's going to be a lot of work, a lot more than what I did on my year at uni previously. I don't mind though, it's what I want to do so I'm going to put the work in.
it doesn't feeeeel like a lot of work, but when you compare it to other friends on courses, who have loads of free time, can go on lots of nights out and stuff it does hit you
I live with a 2nd year student nurse, and compared to the rest of us she has a lot less time off during the year, her course started before the rest of us even arrived here, and she doesn't finish for the summer until a few months after us!
At the moment she's on placement for 6 weeks, where she work 11/12 hour shifts for 3 days a week, and has an assignment to complete during these 6 weeks as well.
So going from that, I'd say she is quite busy yeah, and it's deffinately more stressful than your average uni course.
At the moment she's on placement for 6 weeks, where she work 11/12 hour shifts for 3 days a week, and has an assignment to complete during these 6 weeks as well.
So going from that, I'd say she is quite busy yeah, and it's deffinately more stressful than your average uni course.
I think its the mixture of the amount of theory and practical to be done. Alongside other comitments people already have.
When on placement its like a full time job, you do the hours qualified nurses do and get stuck in with everything you can. Then alongside that is uni work, assignments and so on.
Before getting started on the likes of other bits and pieces, catching up with friends etc. I think living with other students doesnt make things much easier either, dont exactly get the best sleep for example!
10 weeks holiday is alot for a nursing course aswell, most get around 6ish.
When on placement its like a full time job, you do the hours qualified nurses do and get stuck in with everything you can. Then alongside that is uni work, assignments and so on.
Before getting started on the likes of other bits and pieces, catching up with friends etc. I think living with other students doesnt make things much easier either, dont exactly get the best sleep for example!
10 weeks holiday is alot for a nursing course aswell, most get around 6ish.
Anonymous,
Student nurses always say that they work so hard and its time consuming but do they mean time consuming as in you have a lot of homework, assignments or time consuming as in you are commited to being on placement/in uni a lot? Its just Ive seen a student nurse timetable the other day they get 10 weeks annual leave, and are only on placement half the time thats like 5/6 months a year. How is it harder than working a full time or even part time job?
Im not putting them down, just asking.
Im not putting them down, just asking.
Depends what uni you are at. At bradford you get 2 weeks at christmas and 4 over the summer and that is. You are on placement for about 4 or 5 months - which is fulltime work as a nurse (including all shift patterns and 12 hour shifts). While at uni you have to be there 9 - 5 everyday (you occasionally leave early but still). And the work you do is as hard as any degree on top of this. Include how little money you get (its not bad in student terms, but compared to actually working its rubbish). Its at least as hard as full time work (and occasionally harder) and a lot harder than part time work.
ok. shall I spell out what a typical keele student does for a mental health nursing degree:
every week 37.5 hours of directed study or 27.5 hours in placement and 7.5 hours in uni.
plus a minimum of 2/3 assingments (formatively assessed)
plus case work to discuss in elctures
plus outside reading on the topics covered in lectures for preperation.
plus reading for placement
plus learning objectives for placements which have to be passed.
every four months
and 6 weeks a/l with no reading weeks?
doesnt seem like a lot-try this I get £2265 in loan and thats it. I get my tuition fees paid but that gives me no more to live on..then add on a part time job
how is this not a lot of work :/
edit: don't want to sound rude but i'm having a rough day..
every week 37.5 hours of directed study or 27.5 hours in placement and 7.5 hours in uni.
plus a minimum of 2/3 assingments (formatively assessed)
plus case work to discuss in elctures
plus outside reading on the topics covered in lectures for preperation.
plus reading for placement
plus learning objectives for placements which have to be passed.
every four months
and 6 weeks a/l with no reading weeks?
doesnt seem like a lot-try this I get £2265 in loan and thats it. I get my tuition fees paid but that gives me no more to live on..then add on a part time job
how is this not a lot of work :/
edit: don't want to sound rude but i'm having a rough day..
anon2010
i currently work full time at 40 hours a week and get 4weeks annual leave. i also have entrance exams for private schools i am revising for. do some voluntary work, attend church and have to see my family and bf regularly.
i do believe that nurses work less than this (correct me if i am wrong) as when your in uni (theory) is less hours a week and you generally get onger hols. so technically i, as a tyipica full time worker do work longer hours than student nurses. however i get a good wage and when i do get a week or two off i can afford to go on holiday or do something that costs alot with out the presure of having to hand in assignments when i get back. as a nursing student with a nhs bursary of $300/500 a month and the inportance of their placements/ theory i think being a nurse would be harder emotionaly and financially. it is not the hours as a student nurse that i think will take up my time, i think worrying about money (because i am so use to having a good wage), organising self study, getting to placements at diffenet hospitals and generally trying to have a good social life will weigh me down.
people can very easily get use to working long hours and fitting all there other stuff in. but working student nursing hours and the responsibility that goes with it is, i imagin, very difficult. and prob a reason why so many drop out.
OP - you also have to remember that if a nursing student(or most students) dose get 10weeks off you can be garanteed that they will have a lot of self study/assignment to do in that time. so it is not really time off.
i do believe that nurses work less than this (correct me if i am wrong) as when your in uni (theory) is less hours a week and you generally get onger hols. so technically i, as a tyipica full time worker do work longer hours than student nurses. however i get a good wage and when i do get a week or two off i can afford to go on holiday or do something that costs alot with out the presure of having to hand in assignments when i get back. as a nursing student with a nhs bursary of $300/500 a month and the inportance of their placements/ theory i think being a nurse would be harder emotionaly and financially. it is not the hours as a student nurse that i think will take up my time, i think worrying about money (because i am so use to having a good wage), organising self study, getting to placements at diffenet hospitals and generally trying to have a good social life will weigh me down.
people can very easily get use to working long hours and fitting all there other stuff in. but working student nursing hours and the responsibility that goes with it is, i imagin, very difficult. and prob a reason why so many drop out.
OP - you also have to remember that if a nursing student(or most students) dose get 10weeks off you can be garanteed that they will have a lot of self study/assignment to do in that time. so it is not really time off.
You may work longer hours, but let me just try and fill you in on my week as a student nurse... First off two days of 9-5 lectures a week, followed by four days of placement... leaving one remaining day in which to try and get a bank shift as a HCA (because student nurses get pretty much peanuts to survive off) and most evenings/spare time spent doing countless assignments and revision. I'd say student nurses work damn hard!!
Subcutaneous
you're not even at school- yet doing private school entrance exams?!
Uni is roughly 7.5-9hours a day in theory, including breaks
Placement (which is 50% of the time) it's a 40hour week due to staying late etc sometimes
It's £'s we work in, not $'s this isn't america
Uni is roughly 7.5-9hours a day in theory, including breaks
Placement (which is 50% of the time) it's a 40hour week due to staying late etc sometimes
It's £'s we work in, not $'s this isn't america
your so funny. i was saying that you guys have a big amount of work to do even when you have days off yet you took that as nurses are **** and never work.
i am a mature student applying for scholarships to private colleges if that is ok with you.
can i ask? why do you have such a big problem with people who are not nursing students?
i just though that considering non-nursing students are allowed to join the student room, that it was ok to post in the nursing section. or is there something i am missing?
oh and as for the £ and $; i was using a different computer with a strange keybord. but you seemed to know what i was talking about so it is really irrelevant.
smilee172
You may work longer hours, but let me just try and fill you in on my week as a student nurse... First off two days of 9-5 lectures a week, followed by four days of placement... leaving one remaining day in which to try and get a bank shift as a HCA (because student nurses get pretty much peanuts to survive off) and most evenings/spare time spent doing countless assignments and revision. I'd say student nurses work damn hard!!
isnt that what i said?
i said ; when you guys get time off it is not really time off coz you have work to do. and i said that you get a very poor nhs bursary.
i totally agree that student nurses work their arse off on a daily basis and get a shocking bursary for the work they do. and this is what i was trying to say i wanted trying to explain to the op that it is not just about contact hours because there is alot more to being a student nurse, as i understand it. correct me if i am wrong.
ultimatly i was saying that even though i do a lot of hours work, my work is easy and you guys have alot more extra work than me. in other words, i agree with you. sorry if that didnt come across.
Original post by Nichloe
To anyone doing an Adult nursing course at Uni, this might be a silly question but is there any time to get a part time job around the course?
You're better off making a new thread in Nursing and Midwifery asking this question, the thread you've replied to here is over six years old.
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