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    Hey,

    reaaally struggling, could anyone help me out and give me ideas for an essay plan for this life after death question:

    "Life after death is an incoherent theory." Discuss.

    I would be so grateful for all contributions!
    Thankyou!
    Much appreciation!
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    You would have been better bringing this up as a discussion topic to generate debate as opposed to asking people to do you homework.

    Maybe a starting point could be the lack of evidence? I am not a philosopher though.
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    Death = end of life

    How can you have more life after the end of life?

    You could probably deal with a page of semantics...
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    You'll probably have to make reference to the contradiction between an all-loving, benevolent God and the existance of Hell, for a start.
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    No proof,
    death is the end, so what can come after,
    physical side of life (neurons, brain, etc.) missing,so nothing to support thought/sentiece/conciousness
    contradicting religions,
    other beliefs that have been disproved...
    kinda depressing to cosider
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    "Life after death is an incoherent theory." Discuss.

    -Start with theories that support this quote; materialism: there is no life after death, this material/empirical world we live in is the only world, main person is Dawkins and Bertrand Russell "when I die I rot"
    Then say whether you agree with this argument or not - relate back to question.
    -Monism holds a similar principle that body and soul are one and the same and are not seperate, as a result, when our body dies we die, soul and all.
    However ... John Hick proposed a theory of the logical possibility of a bodily resurrection and write about what he thought. He didn't say that he believed in a bodily resurrection but that his argument gives us a logical possibility of such and as a result life after death is possible.
    -An alternative approach is dualism: Plato and Descartes - body and soul are two seperate entities, mind and matter, and as a result life after death is possible.
    Is the dualist approach coherent? Can it explain life after death?

    Hope that gives you some ideas :]
    Oh and constantly evaluate throughout the essay. They LOVE evaluation.
    Btw is this A-level??

    xx
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    (Original post by sophie_snail)
    "Life after death is an incoherent theory." Discuss.

    -Start with theories that support this quote; materialism: there is no life after death, this material/empirical world we live in is the only world, main person is Dawkins and Bertrand Russell "when I die I rot"
    Then say whether you agree with this argument or not - relate back to question.
    -Monism holds a similar principle that body and soul are one and the same and are not seperate, as a result, when our body dies we die, soul and all.
    However ... John Hick proposed a theory of the logical possibility of a bodily resurrection and write about what he thought. He didn't say that he believed in a bodily resurrection but that his argument gives us a logical possibility of such and as a result life after death is possible.
    -An alternative approach is dualism: Plato and Descartes - body and soul are two seperate entities, mind and matter, and as a result life after death is possible.
    Is the dualist approach coherent? Can it explain life after death?

    Hope that gives you some ideas :]
    Oh and constantly evaluate throughout the essay. They LOVE evaluation.
    Btw is this A-level??

    xx

    Thankyou!
    Love you for this!

    Yep this is for an A2 mock!
    Thanks big time, ah this really helped!
    Definitely been inspired for new ideas x
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    (Original post by icanshout)
    Thankyou!
    Love you for this!

    Yep this is for an A2 mock!
    Thanks big time, ah this really helped!
    Definitely been inspired for new ideas x
    Awhh thats okay :] glad to help!
    Obviously I don't want to tell you different from your teacher if you've been taught different stuff but thats just how I would approach an answer.
    Whose your exam board? OCR?

    xx
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    (Original post by sophie_snail)
    Awhh thats okay :] glad to help!
    Obviously I don't want to tell you different from your teacher if you've been taught different stuff but thats just how I would approach an answer.
    Whose your exam board? OCR?

    xx
    Yep i'm doing OCR religious studies! I suppose you are too?
    Damn you must be raking in an A*! Your answer sounds pretty much IDEAL! :P

    Cheers for the help once again!
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    (Original post by icanshout)
    Yep i'm doing OCR religious studies! I suppose you are too?
    Damn you must be raking in an A*! Your answer sounds pretty much IDEAL! :P

    Cheers for the help once again!
    Cooolbeans :]
    Nah their not giving out A*'s I don't think, and at any rate I can't get one as I'm doing the old syllabus.
    Have you done environmental ethics yet? If so do you think you could help me with my essay ;] (I plan to do a post in a minute about it cos' I'm UBER stuck!)

    xx
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    (Original post by sophie_snail)
    Cooolbeans :]
    Nah their not giving out A*'s I don't think, and at any rate I can't get one as I'm doing the old syllabus.
    Have you done environmental ethics yet? If so do you think you could help me with my essay ;] (I plan to do a post in a minute about it cos' I'm UBER stuck!)

    xx

    Ah dude sorry I haven't done environmental ethics yet!
    Damn your class seems faaaaar ahead!
    So sorry i couldn't help !
    if there's anything earlier in the curriculum you need help with i can try my best!
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    No we're not "/ my ethics teacher is really not teaching us and it's really annoying me because I need good grades and it's like AGHHHH teach me properly!! + I have to teach myself a whole paper which just terrifies me!! Hahahah.

    What other subjects are you doing???

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    Might want to give a descriptive evaluation of, for example, the history of Christian thought on it. Moved from a very much monist position with bodily resurrection in the apostolic and early patristic period, before being influenced by Platonism towards a more dualistic notion of the human person. There seemed to be a gradual change towards 'our disembodied souls going to heaven' and that kind of thing. Thinking was very mixed up until the Reformation and beyond with some maintaining the orthodoxy of bodily resurrection in this renewed creation and others carrying a markedly different Cartesian/Platonic/Eastern mix of ideas of the person and eschatology. In the 20th century there seems to have been a return from liberals to a monist position (as the traditional Hebraic position would probably maintain) and a return to bodily resurrection among evangelical academics.

    As for the coherence of such positions, I couldn't see why it would not be. Perhaps one would want to highlight the dependence of our thought etc on our material body and the problem of what it would actually mean for us to be disembodied, retain thought, and still be the same person. Clearly some sort of anthropological reflection is required, some thinking about what makes us human and what makes us a particular person. A difficulty with the traditional Christian position might be different thoughts about an intermediate state between death and resurrection- are we conscious? Is there anything to us or are we non-existent until resurrection? If we are conscious or something like that, is that in conflict with Hebraic monism?
    Finally, some thoughts about the population of those in an afterlife. Think about, for example, possible problems with universal salvation. If one wants to maintain that all are saved, how is a person changed who, in their earthly life, has been incorrigibly bad? Would it require a manipulation of their will? Is such a person free? Is such a person still the same person?

    I hope at least some of that makes sense! Good luck, and if you want to ask any more about any of those then let me know. If you've already done the essay (which is possible), I hope it went well!
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    hmmm this is a very interesting proposition here or should i say preposition? haha
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    i say life is a pack of cards. You can be the ace or the joker. You can be the King or the Queen. Life is how u look at who you are. For example, the gentleman who started this thread looks at himself as the Queen, though he is male. That isn't his fault, its genetics. It is the same reason why this gentleman has a fineeee mutter.

    To conclude, incoherent theories exist not because of different opinions and different mindsets. They exist because when one take's a look "icanshout's" mother, their mind and other external body parts experience a feeling, a feeling that is unparallel to any other feeling experienced. When people see her luscious, picturesque body parts sway in the wind, their minds become incoherent, experiencing incoherent thoughts, constantly swaying from one idea to another. Her large yet taut mammories bounce as she runs towards you, "booty" cheeks rising one at a time. How can people die, when such beauty exists? That is the question.
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    (Original post by sophie_snail)
    No we're not "/ my ethics teacher is really not teaching us and it's really annoying me because I need good grades and it's like AGHHHH teach me properly!! + I have to teach myself a whole paper which just terrifies me!! Hahahah.

    What other subjects are you doing???

    xx
    Sorry about the lateness of this reply! haven't been able to get on.

    Wouldn't be able to teach myself a paper, hate the thing as it is!
    Though pretty much the end of the year it's just constantly re-read the book to revise lool

    as well as philosophy I'm doing Maths and English Lit (my hardest by far!!), how about you???
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    (Original post by icanshout)
    Sorry about the lateness of this reply! haven't been able to get on.

    Wouldn't be able to teach myself a paper, hate the thing as it is!
    Though pretty much the end of the year it's just constantly re-read the book to revise lool

    as well as philosophy I'm doing Maths and English Lit (my hardest by far!!), how about you???
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    not much luck eh?? don't worry, u can flirt with me if u want.

    P.S. Be careful though... i bite
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    not much luck eh?? don't worry, u can flirt with me if u want.

    P.S. Be careful though... i bite

    Don't **** with the forum voice
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    It is not a contradiction. Your statement implies that the same God who created heaven and earth also created a place as painful as hell, which is not true. It contradicts his nature, he has only done things out of love if He wanted to don’t you think he would have destroyed this place already? Hell simply exists for those who do not want to believe in God, it’s their choice. No way does that contradict his all loving and benevolent nature.
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    Yeah... I enjoy philosophy here and there, but not this sort of claptrap.

    Life after death can't be proven. Therefore, it's safe to assume, it doesn't exist.

    End of essay for me. Spend the time you saved discussing more meaningful and challenging things.

    If you're to believe things on the grounds that they can't be "dis-proven" then you're lost. It's flying spaghetti monsters and all that nonsense.
 
 
 
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