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  • View Poll Results: Vote for the best 10 CL winning sides of all times:
    Real Madrid 1956-1960(with Puskas and De stefano)
    33.33%
    Ajax 1971-1973(under Rinus Michels)
    41.67%
    Liverpool 1977-1978(under Paisley)
    41.67%
    Benfica 1961-1962(with Eusebio)
    16.67%
    Inter 1964-1965(under Herrera)
    33.33%
    Bayern Munich 1974-1976(with Beckenbauer and Muller)
    16.67%
    Nottingham Forrest 1979-1980(under Brian.C)
    25.00%
    Milan 1989-1990(under Sacchi)
    25.00%
    P.S.V Eindhoven 1988(under Hiddink)
    16.67%
    Red star Belgrad 1991(with Savicevic and Jugovic)
    0
    0%
    Juventus 1996(under Lippi)
    33.33%
    Ajax 1995(under Van gaal)
    33.33%
    Real Madrid 2002(under Del bosque)
    50.00%
    Bayern Munich 2001(under Hitzfeld)
    25.00%
    Porto 2004(under Mourinho)
    33.33%
    Dortmund 1997(under Hitzfeld)
    8.33%

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    The year is 2007 and little bluenose Duncan is talking
    to his bluenose Dad.

    SON "Dad, my mates in school told me that Champions Of
    Europe won the European Cup for the 5th time in 2005 -
    are they right dad?

    DAD "Yes son, it's true, but they were dead lucky son,
    all the way through the tournament"

    SON "Why dad?"

    DAD "Well in the group stages ..."

    SON "What dad, did they have a team from Azerbaijan,
    Israel, and Ireland in their group?"

    DAD "Well no, they had Monaco, Deportivo la Coruna,
    and Olympiakos"

    SON "Well they still sound like 3 easy teams to me
    dad"

    DAD "Actually Monaco reached the final the year
    before, Olympiakos had won their league 7 times out of
    the previous 8 seasons, and Deportivo finished above
    the galacticos of Real Madrid in their league".

    SON "Jeez dad, that sounds like quite a difficult
    group then".

    DAD "yeh I suppose your right son, but they were still
    lucky - it took a mir*** shot by Gerrard against
    Olympiakos to get through".

    SON "oh is that the goal were your hero Andy Gray goes
    berserk shouting "you beauty, you beauty, what a hit
    son, what a hit!!!!"

    DAD "yes son it is"

    SON "oh ok. Well what happened in the last 16 dad, who
    did they draw?"

    DAD "Bayer Leverkusen"

    SON "Bayer who?"

    DAD "Exactly son, but they had beaten Real Madrid 3-0
    at home, and won their group that included Dinamo Kiev
    and Roma too."

    SON "bloody hell dad, they sound good".

    DAD "yes, I suppose you're right son"

    SON "so did they win on away goals or something"

    DAD "errrrr, no, they won both legs 3-1 each"

    SON "oh - well who next then dad"

    DAD "Juventus"

    SON "How the f*** did they get past them Dad?"

    DAD "Well they won 2-1 at home, and cruised
    to a 0-0 away draw without Juve having hardly any
    chances".

    SON "were Juve rubbish at that time - had all their
    decent players gone or something?"

    DAD "well actually they still had players like Del
    Piero, Nedved, Ibrahimovic, Thuram, and Buffon in the
    side. And they won Serie A a few weeks later."

    SON "wow, they beat the Italian champions elect -
    which p*ss easy team did they get in the semi then?"

    DAD "Chelsea"

    SON "Chelsea - they've won nothing, Mongrels have won
    more than them".

    DAD "well that season they won the Premiership and
    League Cup but the Red sh$te didn't let them score in
    186 minutes of football"

    SON "Jesus Christ - so Champions Of Europe beat the
    English Champions elect too"

    DAD "yes son, they bloody well did".

    SON "so after all that I suppose all the good teams
    had been knocked out"

    DAD "not quite son, AC Milan awaited them in the
    final"

    SON "no way - aren't they the 2nd most successful team
    in the competition's history".

    DAD "yes son they are"

    SON "so were Champions Of Europe lucky because Milan
    had all their good players out with injuries"

    DAD "no - they had Shevchenko, Crespo, Maldini, Nesta,
    Cafu, Kaka, Stam, Dida, Gattuso, Pirlo, and Seedorf".

    SON "your 'avin a laff"

    DAD "it gets worse son, Milan were cruising 3-0 up at
    half-time".

    SON "what happened, did they have 3 men sent off in
    the second half - how did Champions Of Europe get back
    into the game?"

    DAD "no, Milan had no men sent off, the Red sh*?te
    scored 3 goals in 6 minutes"

    SON "against the best defence in Europe"

    DAD "yes!!!, against the best defence in Europe"

    SON "so what happened next - extra time?"

    DAD "yes son, and Dudek made the luckiest save ever to
    stop a Shevchenko shot from a yard"

    SON "why was it lucky dad - did it hit him on the
    arse, nose, shoulder or something"

    DAD "no son, his hand"

    SON "well aren't goalies meant to save shots with
    their hands"

    DAD "yeah but that's besides the point"

    SON "then what"

    DAD "penalties!"

    SON "English teams are rubbish at penalties"

    DAD "not this f#?ckin time they weren't - they only
    missed one. And that's how Champions Of Europe became
    the luckiest team to win the European Cup".

    SON "but I bet when they brought the cup home there
    was hardly anyone to watch as all Champions Of Europe
    fans live anywhere but Champions Of Europe you say.
    How many was there, 5,000 or so?"

    DAD "1 million people lined the streets".

    SON "so let's get this straight dad - Champions Of
    Europe had 3 good teams in their group, they then
    knocked out a team who had beaten Real Madrid 3-0,
    they then knocked out the future Serie A champions,
    then knocked out the future Premiership champions,
    before coming back from 3-0 down to beat the 2nd most
    successful club in Europe. And then the whole
    population of Champions Of Europe came out to welcome
    them home!!!!

    DAD "that about sums it up son"

    SON "dad?"

    DAD "yes son"

    SON "can I have a Champions Of Europe shirt for my
    birthday next week, and can you stop calling me Duncan
    - I'm Stevie from now on"
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    I don't think playing against teams from Ireland would be that great an idea. Although the experience can be great the last thing you want is a whalloping, it destroys your confidence. Then there's time and cost of travelling there anyway. Plus the game can be learnt from video too.
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    I e'ffing hope so. We did get chances with the 4-3-3 v Blackburn, but just didn't take them very well and we really lacked width. 4-4-2 is the United way.
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    Yes but leaking two goals against Fulham?
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    Two goals. Look at them:

    First, Silvestre wasn't convincing with his header. He can work on that, confidence. Plus, Rio was being a muppet.

    Second, one of those free kicks ala Beckham, Duff etc. Rio once again dithered. Perhaps he would have scored an OG.
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    (Original post by leedsblade)
    ^ He was rightly annoyed just like Reading fans were annoyed that Kenny wasn't sent off.

    If we'd gone on to win the game Reading fans would have been going mad...no different. At least he shows some passion which is more than can be said for most managers in todays game.

    Minus the result which you didn't deserve, I had a great weekend down in Reading.

    Gem
    I can't see stevie coppell having a go like warnock did but maybe your right. We certainly didn't deserve to win the game though i'd agree with that-i think a draw would have been fair-glad you enjoyed the Reading experience anyway
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    (Original post by NDGAARONDI)
    I don't think playing against teams from Ireland would be that great an idea. Although the experience can be great the last thing you want is a whalloping, it destroys your confidence. Then there's time and cost of travelling there anyway. Plus the game can be learnt from video too.
    Yeah I understand your point with travelling as well but seriously they should play against some of the weaker teams over here such as Antrim (have never won the all ireland etc, more hurling players than football in all honesty) and yes they can learn from video but that cannot give them the 'on-pitch' experience, it doesn't necessarily destroy confidence any good gaelic player knows that they have to fix their mistakes and get on with the game at hand and it may led to low moral but with plenty of training and friendly matches it helps to boost their ego's by winning a couple of matches! Soon for all we know London or any other team such as Philadelphia or whatever will be playing the likes of Tyrone, Kerry, Armagh and Cork the elites of the elite. Has there been really any names, named yet for the international rules match yet? xoxo
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    United have always leaked the odd goal, we just make up for it by scoring more. Plus the back 4 is a tad makeshift at the moment with some players out and others playing almost out of position (Kieran Richardson is more of an attacking player IMHO rather than defender although he's doing great).
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    (Original post by NDGAARONDI)
    Yes but leaking two goals against Fulham?
    Well with Richardson playing at left back and Neville injured, i'm just grateful it was only two goals!:p:
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    never deserved a point on saturday, we was robbed
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    Bookworm, i'm not actually gay, but if i was i'd propose (in the places that allow that sort of thing)! Liv-er-pool!!!
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    (Original post by tammy_girl)
    Soon for all we know London or any other team such as Philadelphia or whatever will be playing the likes of Tyrone, Kerry, Armagh and Cork the elites of the elite.
    London by its sheer capacity has great potential to become a club of a similar standard to teams you may know of who play in the All-Ireland final but they will need time and perhaps having too many teams in London will be a hinderence (perhaps this is why in association football that teams from London aren't the biggest in terms of silverware, because there are so many of them about).

    (Original post by tammy_girl)
    Has there been really any names, named yet for the international rules match yet? xoxo
    Not that I know of. I hope I can still visit the Republic without a passport (and come back), and I did hear some silly rule by an airline that they asked for a passport when travelling to Northern Ireland. Yes okay, might as well apply to it Scotland whilst you're at it too...
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    (Original post by darth_vader05)
    Well with Richardson playing at left back and Neville injured, i'm just grateful it was only two goals!:p:
    From what I've heard Fulham had some great chances to win so your comment doesn't surprise me. :p:
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    (Original post by NDGAARONDI)
    London by its sheer capacity has great potential to become a club of a similar standard to teams you may know of who play in the All-Ireland final but they will need time and perhaps having too many teams in London will be a hinderence (perhaps this is why in association football that teams from London aren't the biggest in terms of silverware, because there are so many of them about).
    Yeah I get what ya mean with that there but I don't understand what you meant be 'too many teams'? if theres too many teams the best players from certain teams would come together as a whole to represent London.



    Not that I know of. I hope I can still visit the Republic without a passport (and come back), and I did hear some silly rule by an airline that they asked for a passport when travelling to Northern Ireland. Yes okay, might as well apply to it Scotland whilst you're at it too...
    Maybe cause of the terrorist attacks or somethin that came into effect but I always thought if ya had ID of some sort like a drivers licence etc you could come over without having a passport xoxo
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    If there is a single team for London which plays against Irish sides and then smaller clubs go against each other outside of this event then I'm all for it. It's a bit like the British and Irish Lions I guess!
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    We were uppity at the back, but we always, always had Fulham shackled.
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    I think I've been through this 100 times. They WERE very lucky, isn't that rhetorical? Does it REALLY need discussing?
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    He's the Wardrobe.........
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    Keane is getting old, and he's done a great service for the club, but i was hoping he'd stay on in a sort of playing/coaching way, and eventually take over from fergie when he retires.

    Replacing him will be hard, i'm thinking. Its a shame fergie sold butt and p.neville, because the were the sort of players who could have replaced him pretty straight up (without changing the way of playing too much).

    Smith isn't really a natural in that position, but he's done well enough, but that isn't good enough for a top team like united.
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    (Original post by jaydoh)
    I think I've been through this 100 times. They WERE very lucky, isn't that rhetorical? Does it REALLY need discussing?
    Lucky like you lot were in 99?
 
 
 
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