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    Real Madrid 1956-1960(with Puskas and De stefano)
    33.33%
    Ajax 1971-1973(under Rinus Michels)
    41.67%
    Liverpool 1977-1978(under Paisley)
    41.67%
    Benfica 1961-1962(with Eusebio)
    16.67%
    Inter 1964-1965(under Herrera)
    33.33%
    Bayern Munich 1974-1976(with Beckenbauer and Muller)
    16.67%
    Nottingham Forrest 1979-1980(under Brian.C)
    25.00%
    Milan 1989-1990(under Sacchi)
    25.00%
    P.S.V Eindhoven 1988(under Hiddink)
    16.67%
    Red star Belgrad 1991(with Savicevic and Jugovic)
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    Juventus 1996(under Lippi)
    33.33%
    Ajax 1995(under Van gaal)
    33.33%
    Real Madrid 2002(under Del bosque)
    50.00%
    Bayern Munich 2001(under Hitzfeld)
    25.00%
    Porto 2004(under Mourinho)
    33.33%
    Dortmund 1997(under Hitzfeld)
    8.33%

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    I don't think it's fair to say that people who don't go to matches are glory hunters. I've only been to a few matches, but I have always supported Liverpool, and always will... I watch the match at home on TV if it's on!
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    (Original post by calderstonesLFC)
    The only reason england have 4 european cup qualifying places is solely because of liverpools succsess. Liverpools co-efficent points for europe are highest out of england i think (cant be bothered to look it up go on uefa.com if you can be assed)
    It doesn't go on one club's standings anyway, it goes on the country's co-efficient. The first time we had 3 was down to United (qualified as champions, Arsenal got automatic in lieu of the prem champs, and third had to qualify (Chelsea IIRC). The first time we had 4 in the competition was 2002/03, not really due to 'pool, but United and Arsenal combined I should imagine since 'pool weren't really in it much back then...
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    (Original post by BexTait)
    It doesn't go on one club's standings anyway, it goes on the country's co-efficient. The first time we had 3 was down to United (qualified as champions, Arsenal got automatic in lieu of the prem champs, and third had to qualify (Chelsea IIRC). The first time we had 4 in the competition was 2002/03, not really due to 'pool, but United and Arsenal combined I should imagine since 'pool weren't really in it much back then...
    England can be safe in the knowledge that they will have 4 spots for a while yet largely due to the UEFA Cup and CL success of Liverpool.
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    To the two of you who voted for me - thank you! I'm gonna start typing my CV up!
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    I think ig sam could do a good job. Mclaren is a bit to overrated for my likeing. Psycho would be great but i dont want him to leave City.Curbisley could be a good choice especially looking at Charlton at the start of the season. I just hope its someone English.
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    (Original post by LH)
    Since the England manager can only work with the players he's got, ie. he can't buy them in as with clubs, it needs to be someone who's demonstrated that they can do a lot with the players they have. This points towards proven managers such as Allardyce and Curbishley who have achieved a lot on a small budget without having the liberty of buying in whoever they want. They have both shown incredible tactical nous, man-management skills and clearly are able to rally their players.
    Allardyce does well because he is good in the transfer market, and not because of his tactical nous. When he is England manager he wont be able to buy rejects from other teams like he does at Bolton (e.g. Djorkaef, Diouf, Campo, N'Gotty etc.)
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    (Original post by kpg)
    England can be safe in the knowledge that they will have 4 spots for a while yet largely due to the UEFA Cup and CL success of Liverpool.
    Most likely, yes, but not solely as calderstones was saying. It also has to do with the other English teams continually going fairly far each year too (at least one club has progressed past the group stages every year for a long time)
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    (Original post by ba_ba1)
    Allardyce does well because he is good in the transfer market, and not because of his tactical nous. When he is England manager he wont be able to buy rejects from other teams like he does at Bolton (e.g. Djorkaef, Diouf, Campo, N'Gotty etc.)
    Do you really think he's got where he is by buying rejects and putting them on a pitch? Is that what got Bolton into Europe?
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    The Carling Cup is neccessary, I'm glad they got rid of the 2-legged element though from the early rounds, it just clogged up the early season unnecessarily; I'd certainly change the two legged nature of the Semi Finals though; play one match and see who wins on the night.

    The FA Cup gives teams from all levels of non-league football the chance to participate in the competition - the magic of the FA Cup lives on in the fact that the amount of money some of the teams earn from the cup can sustain them for substantial amounts of time. The magical results happen less often, but shear pluckyness never dies.

    The League Cup under whatever branding is one of the rewards for promoted Conference clubs, as well as automatic FA Cup Round 1 qualification, rather than entry to the 4th Qualifying Round. Also, by it's nature is a chance for League clubs to battle out against eachother. The fact that some of the more prestigious clubs devalue it up until the Quarter Finals is purely their choice, and gives hope to the lesser Prem clubs or plucky League teams - after all they can only play who is in front of them.
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    barcelona, chelsea and juventus are the top 3

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    sorry,didn't read the past 10 years bit. so i change my answer to AC milan, real madrid and juventus
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    Chelsea? what the hell have they done? even in the last 5 years? 2 Semi final apperances.. cracking the flags there.
    Best Teams over 10 years.. Real madrid just shave it but they are slowly slipping off the radar, Juventus for being one of the most consistent forces ive seen this 10 years, and lastly AC milan.
    My heart would love me to say liverpool, but domestic succsess is not our forte, we probably wouldnt make top 6 with Man u,Arsenal and Bayern above us
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    (Original post by Couldxbe)
    I don't think it's fair to say that people who don't go to matches are glory hunters. I've only been to a few matches, but I have always supported Liverpool, and always will... I watch the match at home on TV if it's on!
    Thats not what i meant, some people arent financialy capable of going matches on a constant basis. I have a problem with people who decide to attend the chelsea's,man uniteds,evertons,arsenals of the season and then INSIST on sitting in the kop for atmosphere. (its the people in it, not the place that makes the atmosphere so if everyone thinks like you itll be stone quiet) And people who dont respect tradition, and history of the club. Lost count how many times ive lost it on fans in liverpool tops readin the sun, or people asking where the kop is ( its the side of the stadium that says kop ). and please, if you have to take tickets of loyal fans such as me.. please..please.. learn some fúcking songs
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    Our uefa cup win counts for nothing now, as points are based on succsess in past 5 years, lucky we won the big one eh . I think i worded my post wrong to be honest, of corse it isnt down to liverpool soley but that uefa cup win kept the points high for england which allowed us to gain 4th spot. Arsenal really havent done a lot for the points never been past the quaters in how many years? Altho man united are failry consistent (apart from this year- sorry had to get it in )
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    In a moment of madness I voted for McLaren . Thinking about it though, Curbs is definitely my man for the job.
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    i would like to see big Sam take over cause he been having good time with bolton and he is good with getting players to work under him like Diouf
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    Stuart Pearce should be the man for the job, but I reckon big Sam will get it.
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    (Original post by LH)
    Do you really think he's got where he is by buying rejects and putting them on a pitch? Is that what got Bolton into Europe?
    there is no doubt that it played a big part.
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    The one positive I have found with United having gone out of the CL and not winning trophies domestically at the moment is that it's become easier for me to get tickets for games that I'm able to attend (uni, travel n cost considerations). Having said that, the big games are the exception (chubbed for City, but got 'pool) with them selling out almost straight away. Where are the 'supporters' when you need em eh?
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    Who cares! Support whoever you want I say Im from Bristol, and hate watching Bristol City/Rovers and support neither 8-)
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    (Original post by calderstonesLFC)
    Thats not what i meant, some people arent financialy capable of going matches on a constant basis. I have a problem with people who decide to attend the chelsea's,man uniteds,evertons,arsenals of the season and then INSIST on sitting in the kop for atmosphere.
    That's fair enough, but I think this kind of thing is very much over played. I mean, United and Everton are both done on 2 game loyalty, so that pretty much counts out any of the "1 game a season brigade". And then Arsenal and Chelsea do go to general (Arsenal does on Thurs I think) but that will only be very limited supply, usually corners of the main/cent and then usually a few restricted views in the back of the anny road lower - I mean I know its a problem, but I think a lot of people over play it. I don't mind people jus goin to 1 game a year or whatever, aslong as I get my tickets - but if youve got your loyalty it shouldnt be a problem, because the loyalty system is definately getting better now the fan card is in full operation.
 
 
 
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