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    (Original post by addict)
    Thats the first thing that you've said that I agree with.
    I do hope you recieved the tinge or sarcasm with it.
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    (Original post by Rich)
    Maybe, but UCAS does not disclose UMS marks to universities AFAIK and do students do not have to tell them to universities, so it does not solve the problem.
    My course requires certified proof of grades
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    (Original post by Rich)
    Maybe, but UCAS does not disclose UMS marks to universities AFAIK and do students do not have to tell them to universities, so it does not solve the problem.
    Well disclosing the UMS marks would be easier than introducing a new "A*" at A level...
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    (Original post by HearTheThunder)
    Can you please quote where I've said that.
    Question: Do you think an MS and History grad are the same?
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    (Original post by Rich)
    Maybe, but UCAS does not disclose UMS marks to universities AFAIK and do students do not have to tell them to universities, so it does not solve the problem.
    Yes but if a university cannot make a decision on a candidate who needed AAA but got AAB, they may ask the student what their modular scores were when the student 'phones them up to ask if they've been successful.
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    (Original post by ramroff)
    Question: Do you think an MS and History grad are the same?
    No. One's MS and one's history. :rolleyes:
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    (Original post by addict)
    Thats the first thing that you've said that I agree with.
    It's a relative isn't it though. If someone has their sight set on a career as a bin man then their prospective employer isn't going to care where they got their degree from.
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    (Original post by red_roadkill)
    Yes but if a university cannot make a decision on a candidate who needed AAA but got AAB, they may ask the student what their modular scores were when the student 'phones them up to ask if they've been successful.
    OK, but that's slightly different. In that case, the student has not made the grade, it's not on the university's shoulders to accept them. It's up to the student to convince them to do so and thus the university can ask them their module grades and not let them in unless they disclose them (or could ask them anything else).

    AFAIK, offers can only be made on condition of certain grades being met, not certain UMS marks.
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    (Original post by red_roadkill)
    Yes but if a university cannot make a decision on a candidate who needed AAA but got AAB, they may ask the student what their modular scores were when the student 'phones them up to ask if they've been successful.
    It does say that you can make reference to particularly good modular scores in your personal statement if you so wish
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    (Original post by HearTheThunder)
    No. One's MS and one's history. :rolleyes:
    Rephrased: Do you think they are equivalent in terms of employment prospects and employer desirability?
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    (Original post by ramroff)
    Rephrased: Do you think they are equivalent in terms of employment prospects and employer desirability?
    Impossible to answer; two completely different degrees, two completely different careers. Cannot compare.
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    (Original post by Rich)
    OK, but that's slightly different. In that case, the student has not made the grade, it's not on the university's shoulders to accept them. It's up to the student to convince them to do so and thus the university can ask them their module grades and not let them in unless they disclose them (or could ask them anything else).
    I am fully prepared to beg (and then some) if I don't get them!!
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    (Original post by HearTheThunder)
    Impossible to answer; two completely different degrees, two completely different careers. Cannot compare.
    Proper answer: the History grad is more desirable, even in the media industry, which can be safely assumed is what an MS degree is catered for.
    Simple.
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    When I applied to Cambridge in early October last year I got a letter a few weeks after requesting all my AS modular scores. That enables uni's like Oxbridge to separate the very good from the outstanding.
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    (Original post by red_roadkill)
    Nah there is truth in that Beekeeper.

    The majority of journalists at broadsheet papers are Oxbridge graduates in subjects such as English Literature. I wanted to go into journalism right up until I got my AS results, and thought about doing a Journalism/Media degree. I was advised against it and told to do English or History instead, at a top university - and build up a selection of articles over the coming years. I applied for Law in the end.
    lol, understandable I suppose. I imagine this is because history students are generally more witty than the average media student. I doubt it boils down to the course itself, given how relevant media studies is.

    In the coming years, as Media studies is taken up by more intelligent people in their A levels, I think the commercial sector will respect it more.

    Anyway i'm done, can't be bothered defending media students.
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    (Original post by ramroff)
    Proper answer: the History grad is more desirable, even in the media industry, which can be safely assumed is what an MS degree is catered for.
    Simple.
    Says who?
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    (Original post by ramroff)
    Rephrased: Do you think they are equivalent in terms of employment prospects and employer desirability?
    An industry where people skills are necessary above academic competance would prob favour a media degree
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    red_roadkill is media studies regarded as a soft subject just for A levels or for a degree?
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    (Original post by HearTheThunder)
    Says who?
    not been reading the last few posts on here then?
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    (Original post by red_roadkill)
    When I applied to Cambridge in early October last year I got a letter a few weeks after requesting all my AS modular scores. That enables uni's like Oxbridge to separate the very good from the outstanding.
    But they couldn't make you offers based on your A-level UMS marks could they? The strongest condition they can make on your A-levels is that you obtain all As. I suppose it's a reasonable assumption that you will do just as well at A-level as you did at AS-level, but I also mentioned earlier the disadvantages of using such a finely grained scheme as UMS to judge two different students.
 
 
 

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