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    (Original post by amie)
    Its quite ironic that most of The Sun's readers have probably never taken A-Levels. I'm starting to wonder whether any of their journalists have :rolleyes:
    Agree! :p:
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    Ohh that sun article is very funny, especially the quote about a maths pupil getting an E in 1986, getting a B now. Have they even looked at maths papers over the last few years. When I done the 1980's papers in the run up to revision I found them to be far simpler than those set today.
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    btw the alvl results come out on thrusday right? just want to be sure
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    its not easy. the govt.'s just jealous. the ppl are getting aware of the benefits of education. they study and thats how so many get As.
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    In reference to the poll, some subjects are easier than others, and the exams are pretty much about jumping through the right hoops, but they are in no way getting easier. Admittedly Business Studies was easier than history or chemistry, and as many insist psychology is not as easy as people think (although not the hardest).

    It does however, seriously annoy me that this debate happens every year. We work so hard, just for people to throw it back in our face and say that the exam was easy, that's why we did so well - did they not think that people are just working harder? Also, maybe they should look at the raw marks needed to get an A or a B on various papers, in some cases it was 65% last year, if the exams are so easy, why are the grade boundaries so low. Anyway, my ranting's over for now.
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    (Original post by kellywood_5)
    On the basis that I don't think there are any 'easy' subjects because different subjects test different skills and people are good at different things, so whether or not a subject is 'easy' depends on the person. If you're creative, good at practical work and good at writing essays, you might find media studies easy, but if you're more of a scientific person, you might find it much harder than, for example, maths. I took GCSE media studies and only managed a B despite getting As in traditional subjects because I'm more academic than practical/creative. I also take A-level sociology, so I disagree on the basis that it's very annoying to take a subject because you enjoy it and work hard it so you get a good grade only to be told by ignorant people who've never studied it and probably have no idea what it involves that it's 'easy.'
    Ok, so someone who has A grades in say, Media, Film, Communications and Sociology is working at the same level as someone who has A grades in Maths, Physics, a language and History...........I think not.
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    i think exams these days seem esier to pass because you know what questions are going to get asked, the number of people in my maths class who all got a question wrong(on a mock) because they just answered the question they thought it was as they didn't read the question. in maths for sure you just have to practise types of questions which are repeated in the exam with different numbers.
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    (Original post by !Laxy!)
    Ok, so someone who has A grades in say, Media, Film, Communications and Sociology is working at the same level as someone who has A grades in Maths, Physics, a language and History...........I think not.
    They would have very different skills, but yes, they would be working at the same level, and until you actually study a so-called 'easy' subject and get an A with no work or revision, you have no right to suggest otherwise.
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    (Original post by kellywood_5)
    They would have very different skills, but yes, they would be working at the same level, and until you actually study a so-called 'easy' subject and get an A with no work or revision, you have no right to suggest otherwise.
    I very much doubt that.
    Also, you could apply your own argument and state that unless you fulfill criteria X then you have no right to suggest they are at the same level.
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    (Original post by Gaz031)
    I very much doubt that.
    Also, you could apply your own argument and state that unless you fulfill criteria X then you have no right to suggest they are at the same level.
    Why do you doubt they would be working on the same level?
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    (Original post by Gaz031)
    I very much doubt that.
    Also, you could apply your own argument and state that unless you fulfill criteria X then you have no right to suggest they are at the same level.
    Yes, but the differences are that a) I take sociology as well as 3 traditional subjects, so I have some experience of a 'soft' subject and b) I'm not demeaning the achievements of people who take certain subjects.
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    a) I take sociology as well as 3 traditional subjects, so I have some experience of a 'soft' subject
    Then if I really wanted I could argue that you're biased.

    b) I'm not demeaning the achievements of people who take certain subjects.
    So you're defending these subjects to be politically correct, rather than because you really believe they are of the same difficulty?
    Everyone takes some flak sometimes.
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    (Original post by Gaz031)
    Then if I really wanted I could argue that you're biased.


    So you're defending these subjects to be politically correct, rather than because you really believe they are of the same difficulty?
    Everyone takes some flak sometimes.
    I suppose I am biased, but surely since I actually have some experience of these subjects, which most people who criticise them for being 'soft' don't, my opinion is still valid?

    I'm not defending them to be politically correct (actually I can't stand political correctness!) but because I believe different subjects test different skills and people have different talents, therefore whether a subject is 'easy' or not is subjective because it may be easy to one person but very difficult to another.
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    (Original post by Gaz031)
    Then if I really wanted I could argue that you're biased.


    So you're defending these subjects to be politically correct, rather than because you really believe they are of the same difficulty?
    Everyone takes some flak sometimes.
    I suppose I am biased, but surely since I actually have some experience of these subjects, which most people who criticise them for being 'soft' don't, my opinion is still valid?

    I'm not defending them to be politically correct (actually I can't stand political correctness!) but because I believe different subjects test different skills and people have different talents, therefore whether a subject is 'easy' or not is subjective because it may be easy to one person but very difficult to another.
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    (Original post by kellywood_5)
    I suppose I am biased, but surely since I actually have some experience of these subjects, which most people who criticise them for being 'soft' don't, my opinion is still valid?
    Every opinion is valid in the sense that the person believes it to be true; whether others agree is a different matter entirely (wouldn't life be boring if everyone agreed?).

    I'm not defending them to be politically correct (actually I can't stand political correctness!)
    I can't stand political correctness either. Are you more of a left wing socialist?

    I believe different subjects test different skills and people have different talents, therefore whether a subject is 'easy' or not is subjective because it may be easy to one person but very difficult to another.
    Whether one finds a subject easy or not is subjective; whether a subject actually is actually (generally) easy or not is arguably less so.
    Generally those getting a grade X in an easier subject are of lower intelligence than those getting grade X in a harder subject. Don't you find it strange that the less intelligent gravitate to the easier subjects? Is there really smoke without fire in this case?
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    (Original post by Gaz031)
    Every opinion is valid in the sense that the person believes it to be true; whether others agree is a different matter entirely (wouldn't life be boring if everyone agreed?).


    I can't stand political correctness either. Are you more of a left wing socialist?


    Whether one finds a subject easy or not is subjective; whether a subject actually is actually (generally) easy or not is arguably less so.
    Generally those getting a grade X in an easier subject are of lower intelligence than those getting grade X in a harder subject. Don't you find it strange that the less intelligent gravitate to the easier subjects? Is there really smoke without fire in this case?
    The problem seems to be she is saying media studies for instance is just as hard as Maths.
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    (Original post by ramroff)
    The problem seems to be she is saying media studies for instance is just as hard as Maths.
    Or to be even more extreme; media studies is just as hard as further maths.
    This is clearly idiotic as in terms of difficulty: fm>maths>=media implies fm>media even if we have equality between maths and media studies.
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    (Original post by Gaz031)
    Or to be even more extreme; media studies is just as hard as further maths.
    This is clearly idiotic as in terms of difficulty: fm>maths>=media implies fm>media even if we have equality between maths and media studies.

    Why don't you just leave her alone? It's not the time to be discussing things like this...
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    (Original post by twiga)
    Why don't you just leave her alone? It's not the time to be discussing things like this...
    I'm joining in near the bottom of page 2 and hardly giving abuse.
    People are going to discuss things like this when they like regardless of whether you like it or not.
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    (Original post by Gaz031)
    I'm joining in near the bottom of page 2 and hardly giving abuse.
    People are going to discuss things like this when they like regardless of whether you like it or not.
    It just seemed to be getting a bit nasty that's all.
 
 
 

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