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Reply 100
Farhan.Hanif93
I agree with everything you say there but the argument I was making was that some peoples ideas of good GCSEs are way over the top. Acceptable GCSEs for Oxford law is probably around 6-8A*s, not 95% like someone on this thread has pointed out. Also note that Stellar GCSE + Poor AS's (and lets be honest poor AS's are much easier to get than poor GCSEs because poor AS's are anything less than AAAA for Oxford Law, which is a string of the highest grades at that level whereas poor GCSEs are more like less than 45-50% A*s, which is well below the highest possible grades you can get) = unlikely that you will make it to interview. This is because AS levels are what A level predictions are based on and Oxford admission tutors will have a hard time believing that a candidate that is predicted, say, 2A*s and 2As at A-Level when they achieved an A and 3B's. Although I see your point, neither of us are admission tutors so neither of us know what they are thinking when they make acceptances so this conversation is most likely pure speculation.
The general consensus is get good GCSEs (but don't let the workload effect your social life as your social skills that you pick up that age are vital for the personality of the law student) and get all A's at AS to ensure that the oxford tutor believe your predictions are valid; and finally do well on the LNAT, get decent work exp and make yourself stand out at interview. Then you're in with a chance.


Ah right, sorry! Yeah, I agree, you don't need all A*s, or even above 95% of A*s.
Reply 101
dude just apply in the near future and find out whether they'll take you or not.

PS: since you're in grade 10, you'll be only applying to oxford if the world manages to shake off december 2012 :P: muahah
Do good on As level modules 90% +. I don't think you would leggaly be allowed to sit on hearings and due to confidentiality.
Farhan.Hanif93
That wouldn't make sense because arguably ASs are better indicators of degree level success than GCSEs.


but than good GCSE are indicators of getting GOOD A level results!!!
Mann18
Ah right, sorry! Yeah, I agree, you don't need all A*s, or even above 95% of A*s.

No worries, it seems like there's been a fair bit of confusion here :s-smilie:. I was protecting that fact all along whereas everyone else thought I was taking about GCSEs being pointless. Cheers for clearing that up.
goodboy4444
but than good GCSE are indicators of getting GOOD A level results!!!

AS results are better indicators of that still...
At my interview at Balliol, the first thing they said to me was that they invited me to interview primarily because of my GCSE results, "particularly as I came from a comprehensive" (their words). I got an offer, for english. Of course, GCSE's aren't everything, and what they are looking for may be different for law, but a very good set of results will stand you in good stead, so I would just focus on that for now.

Good luck, I'm sure you will do well, considering you are thinking about this so early!
Farhan.Hanif93
AS results are better indicators of that still...


!!the thing i am saying is that everyone should try to maximise there chances and one way is of doing that is to get very good GCSE results so at end of the day one should not say that "i got rejected becuase of my GCSE"!!whatever they may me ,just give it your best shot and the only reason i said 95% becuase this guy has been predicted 7A*'s and he can even get them up a bit.i would not say this to someone who has been predicted minimal amount of A*.there is always a room for improvement.
Reply 108
Insanity514
Do good on As level modules 90% +. I don't think you would leggaly be allowed to sit on hearings and due to confidentiality.


Unless it's a crime involving youths, in the crown and magistrates courts, you are.
Reply 109
Whilst it is till very early to be thinking about university, it is good that you are taking an interest at this stage. At this point if you can get work experience, that's great, but GCSEs are the most important thing you can influence right now. 7A* would be fantastic, although aim for the highest grades you can achieve rather than a certain aim, if 7A* is fulfilling your potential, that is fine. Bear in mind that while AS levels and A2 predictions will be important, GCSEs will be taken into account. I am not applying for law, but economics, where GCSE grades are very important, and a string of A*s will be a real help. With law being similarly competitive, I would imagine similar importance being given to GCSEs.
For AS take subjects you enjoy as long as they are 'traditional'. Again, aim for the best grades you can achieve, as they will be the basis for your A2 predictions. Also, if you decide to change your mind and apply to Cambridge, they ask for your AS module scores and will take them into account.
In your AS year, it will be equally important to build up a knowledge of law and an enthusiasm for it through reading around your subject. Perhaps start with some general introductory texts to introduce yourself to the subject then find a topic(s) that interests you and read about that as well. In addition to this, as you suggested getting work experience and attending law courts would be a good idea. Also, if your school or college has a debating society, it would be good idea to join to develop your argumentative skills. All of these things will help you express enthusiasm and knowledge of the subject in your personal statement and interviews at Oxford.
Sorry if I have misinformed you in any way here, but I feel that doing these things should boost your chances of getting a place on one of the most competitive courses. Also, don't get too focused on Oxford, with a subject like law there are many great universities out there that offer law courses. For example, UCL gives you the opportunity to go to Columbia University after your second year and graduate with both an LLB and JD.
Reply 110
Thank you very much to everyone for your positive responses. :smile:

And just to clarify, I'm not a 'he'... :wink:
You have about as much chance as i do of finishing this rather large quiche. Very filling.
12.623435473526736456578%
Aka Gtfo.
Reply 113
JustDoucheIt
your chances will be killed off faster than steve irvine in a tank full of string rays


Irwin?
(couldn't be bothered to read the thread, so if you point out that someone else has done this already, I won't care...)
Reply 114
(36 + 1/9) %

Just apply already. You have 5 choices, nothing venture nothing gained or whatever.

ps i didn read OP, so if it turns out you dont have a chance dont blame me.
Reply 115
Try and get some interview practice wherever you can, and do things like public speaking, or presentations in front of people to get comfortable talking in front of people. Debating would help greatly, since the interviews are more like discussions than a Q&A session. The interview will be pretty much the most important part of the entire process. Pretty much all the applicants for Oxbridge are going to have great exam results, and they really aren't that bothered about your personal statement (that comes from the admissions team at Merton College, Oxford) as long as it's coherent and relevant.

The interview is where you distinguish yourself from the rest, so if you are calm, confident and show an interest in the subject, you'll put yourself in great stead. Also, don't get too caught up in trying to know everything about your chosen subject; they are looking more at your potential to learn, flourish and thrive, rather than what you already know (again, straight from the admissions people).
Reply 116
goodboy4444
try and get 95% A* or more at GCSE take more essay subjects at A level and plz take maths and one science and english lit/lang is really important for doing law.plz dont take law at A level ,they hate it!!!!!get the best results possible and improve your argumantal skills.do more vocational work.good luck


Why on earth would she take maths to do law? They're two completely different subjects.

As for law at A Level, whether they 'hate it or not' I do not know but I'd advise taking it. You get a background knowledge and you grow passions through it, you get a taste of it and it's an amazing A Level. Maybe some dicks 'hate it' but I love it and I'm sure you will too. Lit/Lang isn't a bad suggestion though. You read some good books through it.
goodboy4444
how dose GCSE lose value!!!if someone gets 10 A* and other person gets 6 its not the same thing.the only thing which i am saying is everything should be perfect and in place if you really want to go to a uni like oxford.i have seen people with 1 A* getting in and people with 10A* being rejected but they are in minority and people dont get interviews if they dont have good GCSE results.OTHER PERSON HAS VERY VERY GOOD GCSE results(predicted) and he has every chance of getting an interview with good AS levels and a dicent P.S. so plz think and speak farhan.


If you have blinding AS grades, having good rather than excellent GCSEs will be irrelevant. Sorry but the older you get, the less people give a crap about your GCSEs. They get you into a good sixth form, end. The only reason they might matter at all for Oxbridge is that practically every applicant will have or be predicted 3 or 4 As at A-level and they need to distinguish people somehow.
Aubydoll
Why on earth would she take maths to do law? They're two completely different subjects.

As for law at A Level, whether they 'hate it or not' I do not know but I'd advise taking it. You get a background knowledge and you grow passions through it, you get a taste of it and it's an amazing A Level. Maybe some dicks 'hate it' but I love it and I'm sure you will too. Lit/Lang isn't a bad suggestion though. You read some good books through it.


It's about skills, not knowledge. Maths equips you with skills that come in very handy as a lawyer.
Reply 119
Farhan.Hanif93
AS results are better indicators of that still...

On the Law open day I went to at Oxford, an admissions tutor said they actually don't see AS results as that important, because tons of schools don't have their students putting in their AS grades in their application. They said reference, 5+ A*s at GCSE, personal statement, interview, LNAT and passion for law were all more important. I also spoke to students who had got ABBB at AS who got in, one who was even predicted ABB at A level but achieved AAA.

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