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Methanoic acid, HCOOH, has a Ka value of 1.58 x 10-4 moldm-3. What ratio of methanoic acid and sodium methanoate would give a buffer of pH = 4?


Can someone please explain the above question to me and how to answer it? I have it sort of worked out for me and the answer (1:1.58) but I really don't understand it. Help Please.:confused:


All buffer questions are based on the acid dissociation equation:

ka = [H+][A-]/[HA]

you want a specific pH (4) so from this you can get the [H+] because:

pH = -log10[H+]

therefore [H+] = 10-pH

You also have the value for the ka of the acid.

So all you have to do is rearrange the equation to get the ratio of the acid and the salt:

ka = [H+][A-]/[HA]

therefore [HA]/[A-] = [H+]/ka
Reply 2
charco
All buffer questions are based on the acid dissociation equation:

ka = [H+][A-]/[HA]

you want a specific pH (4) so from this you can get the [H+] because:

pH = -log10[H+]

therefore [H+] = 10-pH

You also have the value for the ka of the acid.

So all you have to do is rearrange the equation to get the ratio of the acid and the salt:

ka = [H+][A-]/[HA]

therefore [HA]/[A-] = [H+]/ka

Can you please put some values in because my tutor showed me a trial and method method. I've tried rearranging the equation but I get the a value for the ratio of both the acid and salt..
Reply 3
Anyone?
Ka = 1.58 x 10-4 and [H+] = 1 x 10-4

so [A-]/[HA] = 1.58 (1.58 x 10-4/1 x 10-4)

finally [A-]:[HA] is 1.58:1

:smile:
Reply 5
Original post by EierVonSatan
Ka = 1.58 x 10-4 and [H+] = 1 x 10-4

so [A-]/[HA] = 1.58 (1.58 x 10-4/1 x 10-4)

finally [A-]:[HA] is 1.58:1

:smile:


Bit late but could someone please explain how you're rearranging to get A/HA? Can;t for the life of me figure it out, im getting ka X ha= a- and h+ but nothing more than that?
Reply 6
Original post by interact
Methanoic acid, HCOOH, has a Ka value of 1.58 x 10-4 moldm-3. What ratio of methanoic acid and sodium methanoate would give a buffer of pH = 4?


1600+3/9.8x5
Reply 7
Original post by SnxwKid
1600+3/9.8x5


This was 10 years ago bloody hell
Original post by interact
This was 10 years ago bloody hell


Nah, 8 years ago. Guessing youre in uni now?
Reply 9
Original post by TheElectrozoid
Nah, 8 years ago. Guessing youre in uni now?


Are you an MI5 agent?
Original post by interact
Are you an MI5 agent?


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