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Explain.
I agree that Ian Huntley shouldnt be given access to the internet. Full stop.
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yes but if those people are innocent its a life wasted!
How is that life wasted? For teh greater good, like saying we should divert 80 billion dollars for the Iraq war effort, if that is put into healthcare it would save peoples lives! But for teh common good, we save Iraq...
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Could be but its for the common good. We allow civilian deaths in wars, so we allow mistakes in law. To catch the "bigger" fish.
I dont agree with that. No matter how 'big the fish' ... if you were accused of a crime you didnt commit, you would want justice to be done!
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How is that life wasted? For teh greater good, like saying we should divert 80 billion dollars for the Iraq war effort, if that is put into healthcare it would save peoples lives! But for teh common good, we save Iraq...
how would you feel if you were accused of commiting a crime YOU DIDNT COMMIT and then were never given a trial! your family, and your friends would all be put through terrible pain because of this! i would rather kill myself! its a human rights violation!
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2776 you crazy person, crazy. It's all so stupid. Like scaring people into line. That's what they did in Nazi Germany and Stalinist Russia.
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I am saying that the guantanamo bay tactic is correct, I did not mention whether the people inside is right or not. The tactic will work on captured sucide bombers etc...
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I dont agree with that. No matter how 'big the fish' ... if you were accused of a crime you didnt commit, you would want justice to be done!
As do the people who have had a crime committed against them
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2776 you crazy person, crazy. It's all so stupid. Like scaring people into line. That's what they did in Nazi Germany and Stalinist Russia.
Yes, and that was what Bhaal's punishment was suggesting and other people's punishment for rape, get with it!
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I am saying that the guantanamo bay tactic is correct, I did not mention whether the people inside is right or not. The tactic will work on captured sucide bombers etc...
but we ARE not sure if they are suicide bombers!
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but we ARE not sure if they are suicide bombers!
Yes, so what do YOU suggest we do? Let them go? Put them in prisions? with the comfy rooms and internet? Or risk it and milk tehm for infomation.

AFTER all isnt that a price we are willing to pay? Don't say no cause thats what you did with nuclear bombs in Japan, and civilian deaths...for teh greater good.
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Yes, so what do YOU suggest we do? Let them go? Put them in prisions? with the comfy rooms and internet? Or risk it and milk tehm for infomation.

AFTER all isnt that a price we are willing to pay? Don't say no cause thats what you did with nuclear bombs in Japan, and civilian deaths...for teh greater good.
I DONT KNOW....all i know is that I would HATE it........cant we just have a nice normal kinky convo? * i hate pondering*
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For a brief look at Crime Statistics within the UK for this year and a comprehensive view of previous years, try this website

http://www.met.police.uk/crimestatistics/
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I couldn't help myself one day as I stumbled across this internet forum. I know the thread is a few weeks old but none the less, I feel compelled to reply.

It seems as if people have really lost their minds these days. Serious or not, such quotes as these sway my opinion in this direction.


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"Whats wrong with you people? Bung them in prision and let tehm get ass raped. That will teach them a good lesson..."
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"However, middle class people that have turned to crime have no excuse, they should be hung for wasting the opportunity they have. Hung or stabbed with a blunt, rusty knife"
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Now don't think I've not taken into account that people are not neccessarily required to abide by normal social obligations in an internet forum, so I have taken your harshness and exhaggeration into account for lack of self-confidence.

Although there is some level minded people who prefer to voice their opinion in a more of a "common sense" way (which all of you should have mind you).

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"By treating them so harshly that they may even prefer death than jail does not exactly bode well for people being able to come back into normal society."
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Unfortunately, I have had a large portion of my life taken away just to teach me I shouldn't do something anymore. I am not molester, murderer, or rapist. But I won't tell you why I did time. That would be what you want to hear about.

I'll tell you this although. When was the last time that you lived in a wet concrete hole, when was the last time that the people closest to you can't help in any way, when was the last time every door locked behind you, when was the last time your surrounded by armed guards and miles of razor wire 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. In prison, no one cares, no one helps, no one gives a flying **** honestly. Not your cell mate, not the guards, not the DA, no one. There are no T.V.'s and movies. There are no porn magazines. There is no 300,000 dollar mattresses, if you believe that, I really don't know what to tell you. There are no "activities". Contrary to popular/idiotic belief, there is nothing. You can not make one sweeping definition of how prison is, and how it should be. You, not me, not anyone. Its concept is so backwards you shouldn't try to make sense of it.

No where else do they take away time of your life that you'll never get back. No where turns people into animals for existence. No where else can you find a mix of hate, anguish, longing, death, and sadness. No where else can you find that many suicides on Christmas Eves.

Now for all of spineless self-righteous folks, you spit on people. And there is nothing in this world for you then. There is nothing that will give you the right to look down on people. Everyone is essentially the same, believe what you want, but that will always be the truth. When you break people down into who they are, and as far from human as some people may seem. Believe me when I tell you everyone was once innocent, everyone had a mother.
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Unfortunately, I have had a large portion of my life taken away just to teach me I shouldn't do something anymore. I am not molester, murderer, or rapist. But I won't tell you why I did time. That would be what you want to hear about.

I'll tell you this although. When was the last time that you lived in a wet concrete hole, when was the last time that the people closest to you can't help in any way, when was the last time every door locked behind you, when was the last time your surrounded by armed guards and miles of razor wire 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. In prison, no one cares, no one helps, no one gives a flying **** honestly. Not your cell mate, not the guards, not the DA, no one. There are no T.V.'s and movies. There are no porn magazines. There is no 300,000 dollar mattresses, if you believe that, I really don't know what to tell you. There are no "activities". Contrary to popular/idiotic belief, there is nothing. You can not make one sweeping definition of how prison is, and how it should be. You, not me, not anyone. Its concept is so backwards you shouldn't try to make sense of it.

No where else do they take away time of your life that you'll never get back. No where turns people into animals for existence. No where else can you find a mix of hate, anguish, longing, death, and sadness. No where else can you find that many suicides on Christmas Eves.

So prison isn't much fun then?
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