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Reply 140
RHUL looks amazing. I am hoping to study Geog & PIR there. It is a well regarded university of academic excellence and is in leagues of the Russell Group unis for some subjects.

I thought it was better than Kings and Exeter.

:smile:
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WokSz
I was at Durham last year and hated it. Chose it because of the prospects. Since I've been here, I couldn't be happier.


You hated Durham?? :eek: lol
Reply 142
myip2
ive applied for business management.
sorry for the late reply, i've been soo busy,
just got my results :smile:


Awesome, how did you do? :p:
Reply 143
Little Stranger
You hated Durham?? :eek: lol


Yeah, it was crap lol.
YES YES YES YES YES.

Worst time of my life. And I was only there for a term!!

If you're still unsure... DO NOT GO!!

I was literally depressed from september till december when i dropped out (thank god)

- night life - SHOCKINGLY BAD when you have to choose between medicine or the Union. nothing in egham to do. charge you a fiver for every SU night. The best clubs in sheffield and newcastle dont even cost that!!!!!!!!!!!!!

- union - crap music, crap atmosphere, almost depressingly bad

- accomodation - founders is not social like a flat cos any gatherings with more than 3 people get broken up by the security guards... no joke, hall parties? forget it... they close them down cos they think having music and alcohol is 'getting out of hand'...food isn't great, facilities in the room falling apart broken and old and you only get two plugs for gods sake

- egham - ghost town, not much chance of any life being injected into it as it is a commuter town so nothing going for it

- bulls**t about london being so close - cant get back from nights out and its not as close as they say they milk london for all its worth, londons great so if you wanna live there go live in the city NOT Rhul!!

- COST - so high compared to the north, the college shop is like daylight robbery

actual uni campus - no atmosphere

What annoys me the most is when people try and be all like 'oh well you've just got to make the best of what you've got' - how much fun does that sound, uni is supposed to be the best years of your life.. not something to just 'make the best of' or 'get it over and done with'...... if you're not happy - LEAVE. Thats what I did... best decsion i ever made.
its holloway that needs to change.. the students shouldnt have to feel they need to adapt to its crappy lifestyle.



Touched by fire you are completely right.

Royal holloway have robbed me of nearly a year of my life and over 3 grand... but at least i know now. Spread the word. you can ignore me or whatever everyones different you may like it.. but speaking from direct experience i would not reccommend hollers to anyone unless I particularly disliked them.
conlat
RHUL looks amazing. I am hoping to study Geog & PIR there. It is a well regarded university of academic excellence and is in leagues of the Russell Group unis for some subjects.

I thought it was better than Kings and Exeter.

:smile:



Go to Kings! Its way better academically. As is Exeter.
No one even knows holloway exists unlike those ones ^^
:eek3:
samanthachan03
It's sad that negative comments on forums like this could put potential students off such a beautiful University. I was a little concerned by them but once I visited the University, I found myself counter-arguing each negative comment. And as for the quality of teaching...the Student Statistics Website for my course (Psychology) argues otherwise. x x x



Surely its good that they can see what actual students think? thats what happens on an open day anyway.

i genuinely want to just let people know what its like and i went through the worst few months of my life there so dont want people to make the same mistake i did.. its fair enough that some people love it.. but i think the sheer volume of negative feedback about RHUL might save a few people from wasting their time and money on somewhere they thought was good only to drop out in the first year.

Also.. i had a completely false view of it before i went, I WISH i had read MORE critical comments as it might have made me realise it was not the right place for me and i wouldnt have wasted a year of my life there.
SaveItForTheMorning
I know that the whole point of this thread was to discuss the negative points of Royal Holloway but why is everyone being so miserable! There must be some good things about it otherwise you would have dropped out.. (and if you didn't then you should drop out.)
There is no point spending 3 years or more somewhere that makes you unhappy, especially as a student spending huge amounts of money for your place there.
As for the comments about tutors, I think it should be made clear that that is something which is specific to certain departments and courses..
I saw that somebody said that most people come from the local area.. where did you get that from? There are a lot of international students and students from all over the country there, just like any other university. If a lot of locals are choosing to go to RHUL, then surely that says good things about the area and the uni? Maybe they're not desperate to escape their hometown haha!
Serious crime in Surrey and Egham is very rare and I think it's important that things don't get exaggerated, it's a quiet area, which is perhaps why when things do happen, everybody knows about it and it makes quite a big impact!
Promote your uni, I know it has bad points, all unis do.. but don't scare people away :smile:



To be fair though.. RHUL seems to get a LOT more bad points than i've seen on any other uni threads of a similar uni.

And everyone IS from London. Literally 5 mins away so they all go home at weekends.
I felt totally singled out as a northerner as i was basically the only one not from london...which made me think... does anyone even know where this place is if your not from london... they dont.

and yes you're right, there are a lot of international students, but it doesnt make it better when they refuse to make any effort to integrate with the rest of the uni.

Thats just what i found anyway!
Thecowswantitback
YES YES YES YES YES.

Worst time of my life. And I was only there for a term!!

If you're still unsure... DO NOT GO!!

I was literally depressed from september till december when i dropped out (thank god)

- night life - SHOCKINGLY BAD when you have to choose between medicine or the Union. nothing in egham to do. charge you a fiver for every SU night. The best clubs in sheffield and newcastle dont even cost that!!!!!!!!!!!!!

- union - crap music, crap atmosphere, almost depressingly bad

- accomodation - founders is not social like a flat cos any gatherings with more than 3 people get broken up by the security guards... no joke, hall parties? forget it... they close them down cos they think having music and alcohol is 'getting out of hand'...food isn't great, facilities in the room falling apart broken and old and you only get two plugs for gods sake

- egham - ghost town, not much chance of any life being injected into it as it is a commuter town so nothing going for it

- bulls**t about london being so close - cant get back from nights out and its not as close as they say they milk london for all its worth, londons great so if you wanna live there go live in the city NOT Rhul!!

- COST - so high compared to the north, the college shop is like daylight robbery

actual uni campus - no atmosphere

What annoys me the most is when people try and be all like 'oh well you've just got to make the best of what you've got' - how much fun does that sound, uni is supposed to be the best years of your life.. not something to just 'make the best of' or 'get it over and done with'...... if you're not happy - LEAVE. Thats what I did... best decsion i ever made.
its holloway that needs to change.. the students shouldnt have to feel they need to adapt to its crappy lifestyle.



Touched by fire you are completely right.

Royal holloway have robbed me of nearly a year of my life and over 3 grand... but at least i know now. Spread the word. you can ignore me or whatever everyones different you may like it.. but speaking from direct experience i would not reccommend hollers to anyone unless I particularly disliked them.


Well as a prospective student I realise that RHUL is not the most partying uni in the country, but because I'm not too concerned about nightlife I still firmed it for its good reputation and setting. Yet you went there and are badmouthing the place just because of its bad social life and location- if you'd taken a proper look around during the Open Day (or even read the 'Local Area' section in the Prospectus) you would have realised that it's not like London or Sheffield.

Plus, you haven't mentioned anything negative about the educational side of things, so I assume you enjoyed your studies there somewhat. Not everyone picks a uni for basis of social life- what about the course, quality of teaching and so on? Uni is first and foremost about getting a degree as well as enjoying your taste of freedom.
Reply 149
Thecowswantitback
and yes you're right, there are a lot of international students, but it doesnt make it better when they refuse to make any effort to integrate with the rest of the uni.


Integrating is a two-way process. You can't simply expect international students to fit in. The problem I have also found is that the English students aren't very welcoming either. Often, they can be seen as cold and sometimes even impolite (although this is obviously not true). One must realise that it is a very different culture that they are coming from and often the language barrier often makes the culture clash that much harsher.
WokSz
Integrating is a two-way process. You can't simply expect international students to fit in. The problem I have also found is that the English students aren't very welcoming either. Often, they can be seen as cold and sometimes even impolite (although this is obviously not true). One must realise that it is a very different culture that they are coming from and often the language barrier often makes the culture clash that much harsher.


To be honest I made a real effort to welcome the international students aand talk to them but theres only so much you can do when you get nothing back.
Also... if you dont speak the language of a country... don't go to uni there :s-smilie:

I'm mixed race myself, and I wouldn't go to my country of origin or any other foreign speaking country for university without learning the language first.
Reply 151
Thecowswantitback
To be honest I made a real effort to welcome the international students aand talk to them but theres only so much you can do when you get nothing back.
Also... if you dont speak the language of a country... don't go to uni there :s-smilie:

I'm mixed race myself, and I wouldn't go to my country of origin or any other foreign speaking country for university without learning the language first.


But the best way to learn a language is to actually go there. Now, don't get me wrong I do see your point; however, I'm tired of people always saying that international students should just automatically 'fit in' when I've seen tons of local students make no effort whatsoever to welcome them.
CrazyYear
Well as a prospective student I realise that RHUL is not the most partying uni in the country, but because I'm not too concerned about nightlife I still firmed it for its good reputation and setting. Yet you went there and are badmouthing the place just because of its bad social life and location- if you'd taken a proper look around during the Open Day (or even read the 'Local Area' section in the Prospectus) you would have realised that it's not like London or Sheffield.

Plus, you haven't mentioned anything negative about the educational side of things, so I assume you enjoyed your studies there somewhat. Not everyone picks a uni for basis of social life- what about the course, quality of teaching and so on? Uni is first and foremost about getting a degree as well as enjoying your taste of freedom.


Yes you're right its about getting a degree, and thats fair enough that its a hugely important part of uni.
But its not just about that, most people who go to uni say its the best years of their life for the friends and the lifestyle they had, they dont say 'it was the best years of my life because the uni has a good academic reputation'

What put me off the academic side of it was the fact i'd be getting a degree from somewhere that no one has ever heard of, i've asked teachers, lectueres on open days, no one knows it exists.
Plus for Politics its reputation is not particularly good.

If you're not into going out and just very focussed on your degree then great, i'm sure you will enjoy it. I mean I cant knock the area it is a lovely campus.

But I wanted to much more from Uni, and there is little or NO organised events at Rhul, even places like Durham (smallish Uni's in the countryside) manage to have tons more on offer.
Surely Uni is about having fun and getting involved in societys and events, yes getting a degree is obviously one of the most important things.. but you really need to have fun along the way.. its a nice place to visit, but when you're 18, free, young and full of life.. living in a small commuter town with no one and nothing to do is not how i imagined student life!
Reply 153
Thecowswantitback
But I wanted to much more from Uni, and there is little or NO organised events at Rhul, even places like Durham (smallish Uni's in the countryside) manage to have tons more on offer.
Surely Uni is about having fun and getting involved in societys and events, yes getting a degree is obviously one of the most important things.. but you really need to have fun along the way.. its a nice place to visit, but when you're 18, free, young and full of life.. living in a small commuter town with no one and nothing to do is not how i imagined student life!


I was at Durham before and rest assured it has no nightlife whatsoever. But yet again, I do see what you're getting at.

My conclusion on University is simple: it's what you make of it! I personally think that RHUL has the best of both worlds, with London only a few minutes away.
WokSz
But the best way to learn a language is to actually go there. Now, don't get me wrong I do see your point; however, I'm tired of people always saying that international students should just automatically 'fit in' when I've seen tons of local students make no effort whatsoever to welcome them.


Yes you're right, its undoubtedly daunting being in a different country and having to make new friends, but everyone has to do that at Uni, thats what Freshers week is for, in which i noticed a lot of students stayed in their rooms the whole time.
i gotta agree with the person above

I dropped out as well.

not a good atmosphere..almost depressing place to live. getting a degree is the most important thing, but i find i work better in a place that actually has a balance of academic and social life and somewhere i dont want to actually commit suicide in............!
Thecowswantitback
YES YES YES YES YES.

Worst time of my life. And I was only there for a term!!

If you're still unsure... DO NOT GO!!

I was literally depressed from september till december when i dropped out (thank god)

- night life - SHOCKINGLY BAD when you have to choose between medicine or the Union. nothing in egham to do. charge you a fiver for every SU night. The best clubs in sheffield and newcastle dont even cost that!!!!!!!!!!!!!


You did realise before you firmed RHUL that the nightlife there is pretty poor, right? I mean, if there's one thing that is repeated in this section of the forums a lot, it's 'the nightlife at RHUL is pretty poor'. That actually appeals to me, personally, but if you're a hard core clubber surely it would've been better for you to have applied to places such as Sheffield and Newcastle, which provide the sort of entertainment you're looking for?

Thecowswantitback


- accomodation - founders is not social like a flat cos any gatherings with more than 3 people get broken up by the security guards... no joke, hall parties? forget it... they close them down cos they think having music and alcohol is 'getting out of hand'...food isn't great, facilities in the room falling apart broken and old and you only get two plugs for gods sake


Hmm, did you choose Founder's as your first choice? It does seem to be the poorest accommodation on campus, but then it's the cheapest and almost every university seems to have it's cheapie accommodation. Shame that the security guards are such party poopers, though.

Thecowswantitback

- egham - ghost town, not much chance of any life being injected into it as it is a commuter town so nothing going for it

- bulls**t about london being so close - cant get back from nights out and its not as close as they say they milk london for all its worth, londons great so if you wanna live there go live in the city NOT Rhul!!


Once again, did you not know anything about Egham or RHUL's location? I don't want this to sound nasty at all, and I understand that the majority of people do less research than I do when it comes to universities, but if it's the one you firmed and were determined to go to, shouldn't you have found out a bit more about it? I see that you said you were from the north- did you get a chance to actually visit the university for yourself, to calculate the actual distance it is from London, etc.?

Thecowswantitback
- COST - so high compared to the north, the college shop is like daylight robbery


As someone who has lived in the south all her life, I guess I'm just used to being ripped off. I do agree though, RHUL generally seems to be expensive.

Thecowswantitback
actual uni campus - no atmosphere


That's a point that I have to disagree on. I thought the campus has an amazing atmosphere (though obviously that's just from visits). Even when I've been at the weekend, there's something just so calm and peaceful about it. I know a lot of people go home at the weekend, but I see this as a good thing rather than a bad thing. Atmosphere is very subjective, though.

Thecowswantitback
What annoys me the most is when people try and be all like 'oh well you've just got to make the best of what you've got' - how much fun does that sound, uni is supposed to be the best years of your life.. not something to just 'make the best of' or 'get it over and done with'...... if you're not happy - LEAVE. Thats what I did... best decsion i ever made.
its holloway that needs to change.. the students shouldnt have to feel they need to adapt to its crappy lifestyle.


You may consider the lack of places to go clubbing and not that many students on campus during the weekends as a 'crappy lifestyle', but it's for those reasons that I've chosen RHUL. Surely it would be more fair to say, 'if you don't like going to a quieter, smaller university, don't go to RHUL!' rather than assuming that all students want the same things as you out of their university experiences?

Plus, as has been pointed out before, you haven't mentioned the academic side of things at all, and so I can only presume that this was not something that was of the utmost importance to you whilst you were at RHUL. I, on the other hand, feel that if I wasn't happy with the 'atmosphere' or availability of drinking places of the university I go to, I'd deal with it, as long as the academic side of things were going well. So, once again, what you want out of university life seems to be very different from what I and those who attend RHUL and are happy seem to want.

No one university can offer anything. So you may be able to go to a university like Sheffield or Manchester or somewhere like that next year, and you'll be able to enjoy an active nightlife, but you won't get the peacefulness of the campus and the other things that RHUL offers. The key is to go where suits you and it seems that when you chose RHUL, you were unclear as to what exactly RHUL offers. I'm glad to hear that you're happier now you've dropped out, though- it does sound like it was the right decision for you. And I wish you luck for the future!
llacerta
You did realise before you firmed RHUL that the nightlife there is pretty poor, right? I mean, if there's one thing that is repeated in this section of the forums a lot, it's 'the nightlife at RHUL is pretty poor'. That actually appeals to me, personally, but if you're a hard core clubber surely it would've been better for you to have applied to places such as Sheffield and Newcastle, which provide the sort of entertainment you're looking for?



Hmm, did you choose Founder's as your first choice? It does seem to be the poorest accommodation on campus, but then it's the cheapest and almost every university seems to have it's cheapie accommodation. Shame that the security guards are such party poopers, though.



Once again, did you not know anything about Egham or RHUL's location? I don't want this to sound nasty at all, and I understand that the majority of people do less research than I do when it comes to universities, but if it's the one you firmed and were determined to go to, shouldn't you have found out a bit more about it? I see that you said you were from the north- did you get a chance to actually visit the university for yourself, to calculate the actual distance it is from London, etc.?



As someone who has lived in the south all her life, I guess I'm just used to being ripped off. I do agree though, RHUL generally seems to be expensive.



That's a point that I have to disagree on. I thought the campus has an amazing atmosphere (though obviously that's just from visits). Even when I've been at the weekend, there's something just so calm and peaceful about it. I know a lot of people go home at the weekend, but I see this as a good thing rather than a bad thing. Atmosphere is very subjective, though.



You may consider the lack of places to go clubbing and not that many students on campus during the weekends as a 'crappy lifestyle', but it's for those reasons that I've chosen RHUL. Surely it would be more fair to say, 'if you don't like going to a quieter, smaller university, don't go to RHUL!' rather than assuming that all students want the same things as you out of their university experiences?

Plus, as has been pointed out before, you haven't mentioned the academic side of things at all, and so I can only presume that this was not something that was of the utmost importance to you whilst you were at RHUL. I, on the other hand, feel that if I wasn't happy with the 'atmosphere' or availability of drinking places of the university I go to, I'd deal with it, as long as the academic side of things were going well. So, once again, what you want out of university life seems to be very different from what I and those who attend RHUL and are happy seem to want.

No one university can offer anything. So you may be able to go to a university like Sheffield or Manchester or somewhere like that next year, and you'll be able to enjoy an active nightlife, but you won't get the peacefulness of the campus and the other things that RHUL offers. The key is to go where suits you and it seems that when you chose RHUL, you were unclear as to what exactly RHUL offers. I'm glad to hear that you're happier now you've dropped out, though- it does sound like it was the right decision for you. And I wish you luck for the future!




nope i didnt get into anywhere else so pretty much HAD to go.....

you're right though, if you want a quiet peaceful uni life then yeah holloways just for you!

sorry to sound so negative but i guess im aiming my comments at the people who are like me and will not like it.

i know the degrees the most important but the unhappiness of being there completely outweighed the general satisfaction of the course.

i am glad you enjoy it though i guess we just both expected uni to be different things.
also..the nice accomodation blocks are RIDICULOUSLY expensive so they werent an option.
I don't want a 'peaceful' 'quiet' University life and I'll be going to Royal Holloway in September! I strongly believe that having an amazing social life in University is down to the company that you keep and what you make of the surroundings (even if they are relatively quiet). I have two friends currently in Royal Holloway that are really enjoying the social life and I'd say they're pretty sociable people who enjoy a good party! I have no doubt that the social life will be everything I expect it to be if I make the effort :smile:

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