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hello jashan, I still can't make up my mind where to go, Manchester or King's to do biomed can you help me out?

What is the teaching quality like at king's, do you get good feedback from work, how many practicals are there per week?

Have you made up your mind kylerainer?
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yea i've decided on kings.. other than the comments i got from jashan, i guess its also due to the location (london compared to manchester) and that there are some or few ppl i know from kings..
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James12344321
hello jashan, I still can't make up my mind where to go, Manchester or King's to do biomed can you help me out?

What is the teaching quality like at king's, do you get good feedback from work, how many practicals are there per week?

Have you made up your mind kylerainer?


Teaching quality is excellent. Occasionally there are the lecturers who know their stuff but can't seem to get it across all that well, but there are particularly a few that you will have in the first year that are very good. In the second year even more so because you get specialist speakers so you get top level teaching.
In terms of feedback it might be a little lacking, I mean you get feedback on coursework but that's about it. But I guess that's the whole uni principle of independent work.
There aren't that many practicals. For Histology I think there's one for each topic, about 4 for Biochem A, 2 for Biochem B and 1 for Pharmacology I think.

I can't say anything about Manchester but King's have some of the best research departments in the country and the world so the Biomed course certainly isn't lacking.
One guy mentioned somewhere that if you're exceptionally good you can transfer to Medicine. This isn't true. You can transfer between the related degrees (Pharmacology, Physiology etc.) because the first year is a common year but that's about it.

For Kyle, I don't know what you mean by bell curve so if you explain maybe I can tell you.
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hey jashan, this is from the internet.

In education, grading on a curve (also known as curved grading or simply curving) is a statistical method of assigning grades designed to yield a pre-determined distribution of grades among the students in a class. The "curve" in question is supposed to be the "bell curve", the graphical representation of the probability density of the normal distribution (also called the Gaussian distribution), but this method of grading does not actually make use of any specific frequency distribution such as the bell-shaped normal distribution.

Basically, for example, top 10% of the class for a certain exam gets As, the next 10% gets the B+es and so on. This is done to 'group' ppl into the classes of honours. So for example like lets say, even though the exam is really easy and everyone gets like above 70 or 80, not everyone will get an A grade since this method is used.

So is it used in Kings? Thanks.
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btw which accomadation are you at? and how is it?
Thank you Jashan
Heyy peeps! Also got an offer from Kings for Biomedical Science so look forward to seeing yas there :smile:

BTW.. whos looking to do Graduate-Entry Dentistry after??
jashan
1) Biochem A was the main chemistry related topics, wasn't too hard and essentially just a bit more detail than at A-level.
2) Biochem B was genetics and although I found it boring, it is straightforward.
3) Practice if Biomed is statistics, but really only covers about 10 or so lectures.
4) From Cells to Systems is the structure of tissues at the microscopic level and was interesting although the practicals were a real drag.
5) Pharmacology was great. Not too hard, interesting and engaging.
6) Physiological Systems was quite good, basically learning about the systems of the body. CNS, Muscle, carciovascular etc. This exam was quite hard though.

For the first year I used the following books:
1) no book needed, the lecture notes were good enough (attendance quite key for these) Recommended textbooks don't add much
2) Essentials of genetics by Klug. Very good book and if you miss lectures, this book will make up for it
3) This is only statistics and some other miscellaneous topics. Only lecture notes, as there aren't any specific books. (attendance key)
4) Wheater's functional histology. very good and has most of the pictures used in the lectures
5) no book needed. lecture notes enough.
6) Vander's human physiology. Good book, maybe too detailed in some aspects for the first year, but it still comes in handy in the second year.


QFT. DON'T immediately buy the books they recommend, they are usually ********.

OP I don't know how the other Biomedical program's work at other Universities, but the one at King's in IMMENSELY flexible.

There are no required modules for years 2 and 3 so you can do take your pick depending on your strengths. Therefore you pick things you enjoy, you do better and get a better final grade. They drum it into us that medical schools won't look at the modules you selected so it doesn't matter.

Also for those looking to do graduate entry medicine/dentistry...you won't be in the minority trust me! They asked us at the start of the year if we wanted to do that, and over 70% of the lecture theatre put their hands up :wink:
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LiberiFatali
QFT. DON'T immediately buy the books they recommend, they are usually ********.

OP I don't know how the other Biomedical program's work at other Universities, but the one at King's in IMMENSELY flexible.

There are no required modules for years 2 and 3 so you can do take your pick depending on your strengths. Therefore you pick things you enjoy, you do better and get a better final grade. They drum it into us that medical schools won't look at the modules you selected so it doesn't matter.

Also for those looking to do graduate entry medicine/dentistry...you won't be in the minority trust me! They asked us at the start of the year if we wanted to do that, and over 70% of the lecture theatre put their hands up :wink:


Liberifatali: any idea if KCL biomedical science programme uses the bell curve? man its like nobody knowes haha..

Anyway how is the accommodation? would you recommend great dover or wolfson?
kylerainer
Liberifatali: any idea if KCL biomedical science programme uses the bell curve? man its like nobody knowes haha..

Anyway how is the accommodation? would you recommend great dover or wolfson?


The book or the stats thing? It gets mentioned in some Stats lectures, but it's not exam related, just more discussing why it's not a great statistical measure. Sorry if I'm way off base with either assumption!

Both Great Dover and Wolfson are in great locations for CYO students, but it depends on what you want to trade off on tbh. Dover is a little further away from campus but it's still a short walk and you get your own bathrooms. If you don't mind sharing then Wolfson is right next to the Greenwood lecture theatre and the rooms will tend to be a little bigger by not having to make space for a bathroom. I would personally take Dover purely because in the middle of the night when you are knackered and the halls are freezing (temperature control is crappy in halls...) you will despise having to leave your room to pee. It's probably a lame reason, but there you go :biggrin:
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LiberiFatali
The book or the stats thing? It gets mentioned in some Stats lectures, but it's not exam related, just more discussing why it's not a great statistical measure. Sorry if I'm way off base with either assumption!

Both Great Dover and Wolfson are in great locations for CYO students, but it depends on what you want to trade off on tbh. Dover is a little further away from campus but it's still a short walk and you get your own bathrooms. If you don't mind sharing then Wolfson is right next to the Greenwood lecture theatre and the rooms will tend to be a little bigger by not having to make space for a bathroom. I would personally take Dover purely because in the middle of the night when you are knackered and the halls are freezing (temperature control is crappy in halls...) you will despise having to leave your room to pee. It's probably a lame reason, but there you go :biggrin:


Oh for the bell curve thing, what i meant is that does it apply when grading the students in exams? For example, if the exam is pretty easy and say everyone gets above 70 or so, the bell curve will come into play and not everyone will get an A. With me so far? haha.. may sound a bit confusing but will really help if anyone knows.
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No bell curve grading
^What he said :smile:
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LiberiFatali
Both Great Dover and Wolfson are in great locations for CYO students, but it depends on what you want to trade off on tbh. Dover is a little further away from campus but it's still a short walk and you get your own bathrooms. If you don't mind sharing then Wolfson is right next to the Greenwood lecture theatre and the rooms will tend to be a little bigger by not having to make space for a bathroom. I would personally take Dover purely because in the middle of the night when you are knackered and the halls are freezing (temperature control is crappy in halls...) you will despise having to leave your room to pee. It's probably a lame reason, but there you go :biggrin:


Hey, any idea if its hard to get accommodation at GDSA? thanks.
It's popular, but not difficult to get into tbh. Every single person I knew that applied late for accommodation got GDSA.
hi jashan how u doin? to give you a brief history i got 10a*s gcse, 3As for a level and went to medical school. i failed my second yr and was asked to leave. i have now applied to kings for biomed and have got an offer. i will be starting in september with the intent to do medicine afterwards. just had a few questions about the course:
1. how hard is it for one to get a first class degree in this course? e.g. what is the workload like?
2. when applying for postgraduate medicine afterwards at kings, is a kings biomed student given preferential treatment over a biomed student who didnt study at kings?
3. do u know any other people in my situation.

i would appreciate any advice given
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Original post by Invincible123
hi jashan how u doin? to give you a brief history i got 10a*s gcse, 3As for a level and went to medical school. i failed my second yr and was asked to leave. i have now applied to kings for biomed and have got an offer. i will be starting in september with the intent to do medicine afterwards. just had a few questions about the course:
1. how hard is it for one to get a first class degree in this course? e.g. what is the workload like?
2. when applying for postgraduate medicine afterwards at kings, is a kings biomed student given preferential treatment over a biomed student who didnt study at kings?
3. do u know any other people in my situation.

i would appreciate any advice given


funny us both looking at a year old thread on the same day. I'm starting biomed there in september and hopign to do GEM after :smile:
all i can answer is number 2. I read somewhere (I'm sorry I can't remember where- might have been said at open day actually) that King's does prefer to accept its own students to medicine. Also there's this, don't know if you've read it- http://www.kcl.ac.uk/biohealth/news/2011/bioscigrads.aspx
see you in septemberrr
Kind of is weird that we're looking at a year-old thread!

I've heard similar for no.2 as well. :P... I read somewhere as well (not sure if these stats are right) that one the chances are doubled (1:60 for non-KCL and 1:30 for KCL). But as I said, don't know how reliable these statistics are!

I guess I shall see you guys next year as well!
Good luck with exams if you have them!
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Original post by wavezone113
Kind of is weird that we're looking at a year-old thread!

I've heard similar for no.2 as well. :P... I read somewhere as well (not sure if these stats are right) that one the chances are doubled (1:60 for non-KCL and 1:30 for KCL). But as I said, don't know how reliable these statistics are!

I guess I shall see you guys next year as well!
Good luck with exams if you have them!


double the chances and it's still 1:30, that's not filling me with confidence lol :\
biomedical sciences woooo!
I'm an international student and studying Access course,planning to study Nutrition. i have already achieved the results for both universities. I am very confused and don't know which one to choose?
Surrey is offering 1year internship,king's has 3 yrs of degree only.
I would appreciate you opinion and suggestion
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