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Bullying/Harassment in the work place . . need some advice

Hello all,

Right . .I work @ Asda, one day a week - 6hrs. A few weeks ago (February) I was due a break. A woman came to take me off my checkout so I could have my break. She said to me ''15mins?'' . . I replied with ''No, it's 20mins'' . . and she started getting gobby and chopsy. So I went to my manager and asked ''Am I entitled to 15mins or 20min break?'', she replied with ''20mins paid break''. So I took that and went on my break. Came back to my checkout and I said to the woman ''Oh by the way my break is 20mins, I asked <manager name> and that is what she told me''. That was the end of that.

Today I was due a break . .the same woman came along and took me off. Now whilst you are on checkout you can check the time and print off a slip that shows you this, checkout operator name and ''rings'' per a transaction. I went on my 20mins break, had lunch and made my way back. On my way back my name was announced across the tannoy system ''can <my name> please return to the checkouts, thank you'' . . I was like OMG im not even late. Got to my checkout and the woman said ''where were you?'' . .I said '' err coming down the stairs as my name was bellowed out across the store'' . . . .she said ''you've had a 25min break!'' . .I said ''lNo I haven't. I asked <manager name> few weeks ago and she said its 20mins'' . . .''NO its not'', she said angrily in front of waiting customers. She was v rude, and I kinda felt like I was getting a grilling from a busy body kiss arse who thinks she knows it all when really she knows **** all! . .I didn't play up to her shouting and etc in front of the customers as I didn't want to make myself look like an idiot in front of customers and furthermore it wouldn't go down well for the store. After her outburst I ignored her, the slips she printed off showing time she got on my checkout and time she got off my checkout she ran to the checkout host and told her the ''lil story''. Now I confronted that checkout host and she so called said she threw the lil slips in the bin . . but I don't believe her!!

This is the 2nd time I have had a run in with this stupid woman . .I felt very intimated and also felt like it was a form of bullying, harassment . . . I was bullied and harassed out of a previous job and I am NOT putting up with it again. Right now I am constructing a letter to inform my manager of this whole incident . . . .as I want it sorted and I want her sorted as well as I am fed up of being spoken to like a piece of ****!

Now do you think it is a form of bullying/harassment?? and is it a wise idea writing a letter or better talking it out with the manager or should I simply forget about the whole thing????? . . . .

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Reply 1
Out of interest, do you have a union? We have one in Tesco. :biggrin: Although, I'm guessing it's not really a serious enough matter, but it's worth keeping in mind if this woman continues to nag at you.

Why can't you get your manager and the checkout bitch to talk about what you're entitled to? I actually think you're doing the right thing in talking it out with your manager, but the situation is hardly worthy of a letter or union action. It appears to be a miscommunication or the usual supermarket team leader who has an inflated opinion of themselves because they're in a position of authority. Supermarkets give thick people a uniform and they love it.
Reply 2
Definitely don't forget about it! That'll be your biggest mistake, if you forget about it, that woman will continue to try and walk all over the top of you! My advice would be to go have a talk with the manager about it, telling him/her about the time were they tried to say it was a 15 min break you were entitled to even though it was 20 mins, then tell them about your recent confrontation with her about your break entitlement, but DEFINITELY don't just forget about it!

Hope you get it sorted! :smile:
I wouldn't say it was bullying, but harassment yes. You should write a letter as soon as possible.
I was bullied when i worked at argos. I don't even know why they just made up all these rules i was breaking, for not smiling or something stupid and putting it down on a permanent file. And whenever i spoke to someone they would just turn away. It didn't help the manager was in on it too.
I wish i did something about it, i just stopped going in.

But yes, do something about that woman. If not she might get worse.
Reply 4
MDEH8176
Out of interest, do you have a union? We have one in Tesco. :biggrin: Although, I'm guessing it's not really a serious enough matter, but it's worth keeping in mind if this woman continues to nag at you.

Why can't you get your manager and the checkout bitch to talk about what you're entitled to? I actually think you're doing the right thing in talking it out with your manager, but the situation is hardly worthy of a letter or union action. It appears to be a miscommunication or the usual supermarket team leader who has an inflated opinion of themselves because they're in a position of authority. Supermarkets give thick people a uniform and they love it.


I'm not quite sure about the union, but I will have a look on the company website and see.

The colleague handbook states this for breaks:

1) Under 4hours = no break
2) Over 4.5 hours (u. 18s) = 30mins
3) 4 less than 6hours = 15mins
4) 6 - less than 8hours = 20mins
5) 8 or more hours = 30mins

Option 4 is what I was instructed by and that is what I have been doing since the start of the year. (I originally worked Sundays for 2years+, but changed to Saturdays).

I don't want union action, I just want this woman sorted once and for all. I'm not putting up with it, being spoken to like **** in front of waiting customers - I don't know who she thinks she is, but like you said once you put thick people into a position, they think they are God and their **** doesn't stink which is the impression I get from this woman. . .walks around with a bag, full of barcodes, a folder with fruit and veg codes and her nose stuck firmly in the air.
Reply 5
chemical_bex
I wouldn't say it was bullying, but harassment yes. You should write a letter as soon as possible.
I was bullied when i worked at argos. I don't even know why they just made up all these rules i was breaking, for not smiling or something stupid and putting it down on a permanent file. And whenever i spoke to someone they would just turn away. It didn't help the manager was in on it too.
I wish i did something about it, i just stopped going in.

But yes, do something about that woman. If not she might get worse.


Yea a restaurant job I had - where I was bullied and harassed - they just made up crap as well. Literally I ended up doing everything whilst they sat on their backsides and had breakfast, drank tea/coffee and told me to ''get back to work''. That job was the worst 6months of my life - I detested going there every weekend. Use to cry the night before - eventually another job came up and I was gone = 24hours before my shift was due to start (dropped them in the ****) . . that is how bad I hated it. That is why i feel very strongly about this incident . . I want it sorted as im not being turfed out of another job, no way.
Reply 6
DancinBallerina
I'm not quite sure about the union, but I will have a look on the company website and see.

The colleague handbook states this for breaks:

1) Under 4hours = no break
2) Over 4.5 hours (u. 18s) = 30mins
3) 4 less than 6hours = 15mins
4) 6 - less than 8hours = 20mins
5) 8 or more hours = 30mins

Option 4 is what I was instructed by and that is what I have been doing since the start of the year. (I originally worked Sundays for 2years+, but changed to Saturdays).

I don't want union action, I just want this woman sorted once and for all. I'm not putting up with it, being spoken to like **** in front of waiting customers - I don't know who she thinks she is, but like you said once you put thick people into a position, they think they are God and their **** doesn't stink which is the impression I get from this woman. . .walks around with a bag, full of barcodes, a folder with fruit and veg codes and her nose stuck firmly in the air.


I kind of regret my comment before as there are some really nice people in my store who I consider friends. There's also some great managers who do their job properly and actually speak to you on the same level. However, this woman sounds exactly like my Tesco checkout manager so much! The 'power' thing is definitely true of her and a few other managers in the store. It's like they enjoy talking down to you or think they're superior for some unbeknown reason. She really is a dopey slag. Supermarket's are so bitchy... :rolleyes:
Reply 7
MDEH8176
I kind of regret my comment before as there are some really nice people in my store who I consider friends. There's also some great managers who do their job properly and actually speak to you on the same level. However, this woman sounds exactly like my Tesco checkout manager so much! The 'power' thing is definitely true of her and a few other managers in the store. It's like they enjoy talking down to you or think they're superior for some unbeknown reason. She really is a dopey slag. Supermarket's are so bitchy... :rolleyes:


The woman is nothing superior . . she is a checkout operator like myself!!! . . .Nothing special! . So I don't know why she thinks she can boss me around and tell me my break times!
I wish I could say the same about my store . .the majority are just ''pen pushing snobs'' . . . all they do is talk, yap yap yap, play on their mobile phones and just stand there watching - and when it gets busy they start to panic!

I will be glad to leave the **** hole (hopefully this year) . . . .
You need to calm down and get the situation in perspective. You have one bad tempered work colleague who doesn't understand the terms and conditions of your contract. If you have another situation where she behaves inappropriately in front of customers then you need to immediately step away from her, and go and see the Supervisor. Explain calmly and clearly to the Supervisor, that 'Maureen is very upset about the time I too for my break. I don't want to get it wrong, but please could you confirm that as I have a 6 hour shift, I am entitled to a 20 minute break?' And then ask the Supervisor to come back and explain that to Maureen, because this is the third time Maureen has complained to you.

To call two two minute incidents of bad temper from a peer bullying or harassment diminishes the situation of people who are systematically and methodically bullied and harassed. I understand that you don't want this woman to keep on with her complaints about your timekeeping, but there are a whole series of professional options before declaring it a case of bullying. You need to learn how to deal with these situations in the work place with a series of measured responses. Declaring every bump in the road bullying or harassment will do you no good in terms of creating and maintaining a career
I agree - you should not put up with this form of behaviour and I have encountered bullying/harassment in the work place in the past but I did not take it further. I was stupid but then again I did not have any right's. -Sigh-

I really think speaking to your manager would be a good idea and I think threeportdrift's post is quite good as well.

Good luck hun x
DancinBallerina
Yea a restaurant job I had - where I was bullied and harassed - they just made up crap as well. Literally I ended up doing everything whilst they sat on their backsides and had breakfast, drank tea/coffee and told me to ''get back to work''. That job was the worst 6months of my life - I detested going there every weekend. Use to cry the night before - eventually another job came up and I was gone = 24hours before my shift was due to start (dropped them in the ****) . . that is how bad I hated it. That is why i feel very strongly about this incident . . I want it sorted as im not being turfed out of another job, no way.


Aww hun - I feel for you completely - perhaps its jealousy? Women can be nasty little thing's when it comes jealousy *Hugs* feel free to pm me if you ever need to talk because I have been in that situation several times before and it does hurt a lot :frown:
Reply 11
DancinBallerina
Hello all,

Right . .I work @ Asda, one day a week - 6hrs. A few weeks ago (February) I was due a break. A woman came to take me off my checkout so I could have my break. She said to me ''15mins?'' . . I replied with ''No, it's 20mins'' . . and she started getting gobby and chopsy. So I went to my manager and asked ''Am I entitled to 15mins or 20min break?'', she replied with ''20mins paid break''. So I took that and went on my break. Came back to my checkout and I said to the woman ''Oh by the way my break is 20mins, I asked <manager name> and that is what she told me''. That was the end of that.

Today I was due a break . .the same woman came along and took me off. Now whilst you are on checkout you can check the time and print off a slip that shows you this, checkout operator name and ''rings'' per a transaction. I went on my 20mins break, had lunch and made my way back. On my way back my name was announced across the tannoy system ''can <my name> please return to the checkouts, thank you'' . . I was like OMG im not even late. Got to my checkout and the woman said ''where were you?'' . .I said '' err coming down the stairs as my name was bellowed out across the store'' . . . .she said ''you've had a 25min break!'' . .I said ''lNo I haven't. I asked <manager name> few weeks ago and she said its 20mins'' . . .''NO its not'', she said angrily in front of waiting customers. She was v rude, and I kinda felt like I was getting a grilling from a busy body kiss arse who thinks she knows it all when really she knows **** all! . .I didn't play up to her shouting and etc in front of the customers as I didn't want to make myself look like an idiot in front of customers and furthermore it wouldn't go down well for the store. After her outburst I ignored her, the slips she printed off showing time she got on my checkout and time she got off my checkout she ran to the checkout host and told her the ''lil story''. Now I confronted that checkout host and she so called said she threw the lil slips in the bin . . but I don't believe her!!

This is the 2nd time I have had a run in with this stupid woman . .I felt very intimated and also felt like it was a form of bullying, harassment . . . I was bullied and harassed out of a previous job and I am NOT putting up with it again. Right now I am constructing a letter to inform my manager of this whole incident . . . .as I want it sorted and I want her sorted as well as I am fed up of being spoken to like a piece of ****!

Now do you think it is a form of bullying/harassment?? and is it a wise idea writing a letter or better talking it out with the manager or should I simply forget about the whole thing????? . . . .


Well done for not rising to it.

My advice would be to write the letter.
Reply 12
threeportdrift
You need to calm down and get the situation in perspective. You have one bad tempered work colleague who doesn't understand the terms and conditions of your contract. If you have another situation where she behaves inappropriately in front of customers then you need to immediately step away from her, and go and see the Supervisor. Explain calmly and clearly to the Supervisor, that 'Maureen is very upset about the time I too for my break. I don't want to get it wrong, but please could you confirm that as I have a 6 hour shift, I am entitled to a 20 minute break?' And then ask the Supervisor to come back and explain that to Maureen, because this is the third time Maureen has complained to you.

To call two two minute incidents of bad temper from a peer bullying or harassment diminishes the situation of people who are systematically and methodically bullied and harassed. I understand that you don't want this woman to keep on with her complaints about your timekeeping, but there are a whole series of professional options before declaring it a case of bullying. You need to learn how to deal with these situations in the work place with a series of measured responses. Declaring every bump in the road bullying or harassment will do you no good in terms of creating and maintaining a career


Listen to this ^, dont make it into some massive deal because it will just piss people off in the end and make you look bad.
Reply 13
I agree with threeportdrift. She just sounds like a pain in the bum and I don't think it's worth writing a letter about. Definitely, speak to your supervisor/manager again and if it doesn't get sorted, take the next step.
threeportdrift
You need to calm down and get the situation in perspective. You have one bad tempered work colleague who doesn't understand the terms and conditions of your contract. If you have another situation where she behaves inappropriately in front of customers then you need to immediately step away from her, and go and see the Supervisor. Explain calmly and clearly to the Supervisor, that 'Maureen is very upset about the time I too for my break. I don't want to get it wrong, but please could you confirm that as I have a 6 hour shift, I am entitled to a 20 minute break?' And then ask the Supervisor to come back and explain that to Maureen, because this is the third time Maureen has complained to you.

To call two two minute incidents of bad temper from a peer bullying or harassment diminishes the situation of people who are systematically and methodically bullied and harassed. I understand that you don't want this woman to keep on with her complaints about your timekeeping, but there are a whole series of professional options before declaring it a case of bullying. You need to learn how to deal with these situations in the work place with a series of measured responses. Declaring every bump in the road bullying or harassment will do you no good in terms of creating and maintaining a career


I agree with this completely- it isn't bullying or harassment (although it may feel like it) as these are the only times she has been like this to you (as far as I can tell.) She is clearly misunderstood about times, or only works enough to be entitled to 15 mins and thinks you're the same, or didn't listen/read the handbook to find out times. When you tell a supervisor or manager, make sure it's one who IS going to do something about it. It definitely isn't your fault, you are in the right and she shouldn't shout at you (she probably has other stuff going on and can't leave it bhind when she comes to work- my boss is like this) but I dont think she is actually bullying you properly.
threeportdrift
. . Declaring every bump in the road bullying or harassment will do you no good in terms of creating and maintaining a career


. . .Maintaining a permanent career @ Asda simply will NOT be an option! . . (but joking aside I understand what you're saying).

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Listen to this ^, dont make it into some massive deal because it will just piss people off in the end and make you look bad.


How will writing a letter to my manager make me look bad? :confused:

trinkets
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Thank you for the comments, much appreciated. I have written the letter now, so will be giving it to my manager tomorrow. I don't want union action - I just want this woman sorted out once and for all. My reasoning for writing this letter is it enables me express myself properly, whilst if I talk I often forget and get myself confused. And furthermore I don't want nosey people sticking their noses into what is happening. I just want the two incidents sorted as I don't want to be humiliated again in front of customers, being shouted at - no thank you.

Some of you are perhaps thinking its pathetic writing a letter, but when you have been in a job before where you were literally pushed out of a job, ie made to feel miserable, cried before the night of going into work, ''restaurant skivvy'' and etc etc, then you might be able to understand where I am coming from. This is how it all started in a previous job I had and I did nothing . . in the end I left after 6months! I don't want that to happen again. I will leave a job when I am good and ready . . I am not going to be turfed out of a job by an immature 40+ year old woman!! Asda also don't take this sort of thing lightly . . when I had training 3years ago, I remember them saying if this sort of thing happens, talk to someone, don't suffer in silence!!!
Reply 16
We're not asking you to suffer in silence at all. If you write the letter it may look like your making a big deal over something minor. If it's to get your feelings across then okay.. although to me, It just seems a little OTT for the situation you've described.

I've experienced bullying in a previous position which was much more subtle and very difficult to prove (even to myself) that it was happening. Be glad that your "bully" is being upfront about it so you have actual proof/witnesses etc if it did get really bad.
trinkets
We're not asking you to suffer in silence at all. If you write the letter it may look like your making a big deal over something minor. If it's to get your feelings across then okay.. although to me, It just seems a little OTT for the situation you've described.

I've experienced bullying in a previous position which was much more subtle and very difficult to prove (even to myself) that it was happening. Be glad that your "bully" is being upfront about it so you have actual proof/witnesses etc if it did get really bad.


:facepalm: . .lol I didn't suggest for one moment that I am claiming everyone on here wants me to suffer in silence. It's not OTT at all IMO, i'm flagging up the issue with the actual checkout manager - what is wrong with that?? . .I just want it sorted before I return next weekend because the ''bully dimwit'' is going to start again and im not having it. Yes it may seem 'OTT' to you, but it's not. OTT imo is taking the whole thing to a union which im not doing.

PS: Im writing the letter to let her know now as she isn't in tomorrow (as I have been informed by someone) and she isn't in next Saturday (as she works every other weekend). I have written the letter simply to let her know of what has gone on. Not only that I am doing it to cover my own arse incase she says ''why didn't you say sooner'' . . . me ''well i didnt want to seem like I was being OTT'' . . .I think taking the option that I am going to is the best way about it. Not only that it is in writing so she doesn't forget as she forgets a lot of things.

That is all. If I wanted to cause a scene and make a big song and dance out of the whole thing, I could have done yesterday with several managers in, supervisors and etc. But I didn't. I am going about it in a manner which I deem to be alright. :dontknow:. Please don't take what I have said as angry or anything like that, just simply explaining. :smile:
Reply 18
It's totally OTT to write a letter, and it's certainly not bullying. I'm sorry about what happened in your last job, a similar thing happened to me in my last job too. But try not to blame what they did on your new employers, who are more than likely much better people :smile:

Definitely you should be talking about the issue to someone first. With a letter you will seem to be over-reacting/up yourself. I agree with threeportdrift wholly, though maybe talk to the manager immediately without waiting for the bitch woman to take issue with you again. In this way you will seem proactive and you will feel calmer.

Your break entitlement wording seems a bit weird, if you have 6 hours you're on the borderline, so ask to clarify it. Doesn't seem long for 6 hours' work, tbh, in my last job you'd get twice that for 6 hours.
Reply 19
Your being bullied because your unpopular. Often, people who are victims are also bullies. Are you a bully?