Proposal that Independent school pupils should pay extra Uni fees

No. But if they do choose to, then it's a nasty financial burden.

Point taken but what then is a "cheap" private school? Lets say £1500 a term, in which case £4500 a year. This is still over four times the amount this parent has to pay for their child to go to university, and once i again i stress that they are paying less money for a higher level of education.

Of course it is not fair to ask a parent who spends £4500 a year to be termed equally as wealthy as someone who pays £21000 a year but again this can be taken into account. Why not have a staggered system of payment where students from the most expensive private schools pay more money than cheaper private schools? This is jsut a suggestion but at the end of the day, asking everyone to pay the same for a university education without taking into account how much their parents could have afforded to spend on a private school education is just not right.

No. But if they do choose to, then it's a nasty financial burden.

So is buying a ferrari. Doesn't mean they have to though, does it?

I haven't read the whole of this thread cos I'm knackered and beginning to feel hungover but I think the point is being missed here. The government have announced that university fees will be paid AFTER people graduate, as a 'graduate tax'. Therefore surely it is unfair to differentiate between a privately educated person and a state-educated person? - the student who went to a private school could very possibly end up earning less than the person who went to a comp! Therefore asking them to pay more graduate tax is a bit harsh, don't you think?

True. But no one is proposing that people who buy Ferraris should then pay something extra analogous to uni fees.

But people who drive Ferraris have to pay higher vehicle tax. So a more trained pupil should have a greater learning tax on them.









Is it just me or did that argument sound really poor?

all i can say to this proposal is fuck of, no fucking way.

no because i'm not in the mood after last night! all i can say is its bloody unfair to discrimimate regards to what school you go to. At uni all fee things should be equal as its seperate from school.

Not a good start to the new year? Hope today's better.

And it's "bloody unfair" that some students gets the luxury of going to independent schools while others are forced to go to comps. I respect your POV though.

I agree with you meepmeep. I'm just giving some support

I haven't read the whole of this thread cos I'm knackered and beginning to feel hungover but I think the point is being missed here. The government have announced that university fees will be paid AFTER people graduate, as a 'graduate tax'. Therefore surely it is unfair to differentiate between a privately educated person and a state-educated person? - the student who went to a private school could very possibly end up earning less than the person who went to a comp! Therefore asking them to pay more graduate tax is a bit harsh, don't you think?

I have to disagree...my parents scrimped and saved and made sacrifices so that I could go to a private school - something they never had the chance to. Why not make it the othe way round in that people who didnt contribute to their education do so at university? In foreign countries people have to pay for their schooling. I mean people who go to private school are not asking the government for more moeny are they? Whereas people who go to a state school will rely on using this government...why shouldnt people from private schools then have a chance to get money from the government to fund their education for what is essentially three years, when those at state school will have been using it for their entireity of education!?

This proposal is awful for the following reasons -

1) Society benefits from University graduates because we need a skilled workforce. In fact, we need Doctors and teachers, so why should we raise fees, which will restrict Higher education access, when we clearly need these people?

2) It is unfair to tax the middle class any more than they are already. To make any group of people pay more for education is simply morally wrong.

3) Not every middle class family will be able to afford this scheme, so fewer of their children will be going to university. This is wrong because:
[INDENT]a) Education is a basic right and in a developed country our core education should be extended to University.
b) We'll see fewer Doctors and teachers graduating when we need said people.[/INDENT]

But there are very few counties which still have grammar schools (my county, Oxfordshire, certainly doesn't have any) and there are no serious proposals to restore them. I agree with not making anyone take the 11+, that is what happens where there are still grammars.

Are you going to be a doctor Tek? With your history degree?