THC in cannabis...

for most "healthy young people" without some heart **** that means u cant tolerate heart rates over a certain level, I doubt it would be a problem. I guess it could easily induce a heart attack in some people though - who could get it from standing up too quickly or whatever

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Naxalite

Probably die, your heart will work too hard and may bottom out I guess.

Nah - weed, pills, and poppers are quite a common combination at raves and other such places. Probably not as healthy as eating an apple, but it wont kill you (unless there are other factors involved)

Reply 3

Iago

Nah - weed, pills, and poppers are quite a common combination at raves and other such places. Probably not as healthy as eating an apple, but it wont kill you (unless there are other factors involved)

actually they can. they can also send your heart into atrial fibrillation which then might give you an embolic stroke

Reply 4

Jamie

actually they can. they can also send your heart into atrial fibrillation which then might give you an embolic stroke

Actually they can...? They can...? They can what?

What did I say they couldn't do? Kill people? I didn't say that. I didn't say anything about what the combination can or cannot do. I'm just saying that the combination probably wont kill you, and that the fact that it is a popular combination within the drugs scene provides evidence of this.

I'm sure the combination can kill you. I'm sure it can do those things you said it can.

But:

Iago

Nah - weed, pills, and poppers are quite a common combination at raves and other such places. Probably not as healthy as eating an apple, but it wont kill you (unless there are other factors involved)

We're talking about in a minority of circumstances. And there must be other factors involved, the combination doesn't kill most people that take it. So it can't purely be down to that itself. There has to be another factor like heart desiese, other drugs, anxiety, overdosage, bad personal reaction etc. etc.

Look, I'm not trying to promote this combination or any drug taking at all, I'm just merely making a factual point about its effects.

Reply 5

lummox

The worst anyone I know has had is their heart beating fast, and that could be just because they're more aware of touch and hearing -exaggerating the beat. I severely doubt anything would happen. EDIT: (without taking anything else)

Reply 6

Iago

Actually they can...? They can...? They can what?

What did I say they couldn't do? Kill people? I didn't say that. I didn't say anything about what the combination can or cannot do. I'm just saying that the combination probably wont kill you, and that the fact that it is a popular combination within the drugs scene provides evidence of this.

I'm sure the combination can kill you. I'm sure it can do those things you said it can.

But:

We're talking about in a minority of circumstances. And there must be other factors involved, the combination doesn't kill most people that take it. So it can't purely be down to that itself. There has to be another factor like heart desiese, other drugs, anxiety, overdosage, bad personal reaction etc. etc.

Look, I'm not trying to promote this combination or any drug taking at all, I'm just merely making a factual point about its effects.

"Probably not as healthy as eating an apple, but it wont kill you "

Even without any other factors, they can kill you. Not to mention the fact that a good deal of people with extra risk factors may be completely unaware of their predisposition.
IF a drug kills only those in whom a "bad personal reaction" is found then it simply has potentially lethal side effects. Heck its why our anaethetics were overhauled a few years back - the off chance that 1 in a million MIGHT have a bad reaction and develop hepatitis, and that 1 in 1000 of these MIGHT die.

If all the risk factors for dying ona drug were controllable then you might be correct. But they aren't and hence neither are you.

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Correct about what? What do you think this debate is about?

Someone up there asked what would happen if a certain combination of drugs were taken. The next guy said it'd probably kill you. I said that it probably wouldn't kill you, and that it is actually a popular combination. You don't seem to be arguing with any of these points.

Sure, the drugs have dangers, and can kill. Sure, most people don't know exactly how their body will react. You have no control over some risk factors, agreed. When did I dispute or even bring up these points?

Reply 8

Xulfer

"When did I dispute or even bring up these points?"

When you said it wouldn't kill you.

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Wait no OK I see your point. I shouldn't have said 'not as healthy as an apple but wont kill you' or whatever. I just meant that in a general, turn-of-phrase kind of way. My apologies, it can and does kill people. It just probably wont kill you.

Reply 10

Xulfer

Well, I'm not gonna try any drugs let alone 3 types at once.

Reply 11

Jonatan

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Naxalite

Is it possible to suffer from heart damaged/attack from cannabis due to the fact that the THC can increase your heart rate up to 50%... Or is it like a workout.

Overdoses of cannabis are rather uncommon afaik. It is more commonly the long term effects obe would worry about. However this does in no way mean that it is necessrilly safe. The sad truth is that noone really knows with certainty what the risks are, mainly due to limited scientific material. The studies rthat have been carried out on cannabis has been far less comprehensive and fewer than those concerned with smoking. Long story short, if anyone tell you cannabis is safe, they are either lying or think they know more than they do.

Reply 12

Jonatan

Overdoses of cannabis are rather uncommon afaik. It is more commonly the long term effects obe would worry about. However this does in no way mean that it is necessrilly safe. The sad truth is that noone really knows with certainty what the risks are, mainly due to limited scientific material. The studies rthat have been carried out on cannabis has been far less comprehensive and fewer than those concerned with smoking. Long story short, if anyone tell you cannabis is safe, they are either lying or think they know more than they do.

see its a misconception about the whole 'overdose' thing with drugs. you don't have to overdose for a drug to kill you. Overdose implies there is a known safe level - where in many drugs there is not.
Take sniffing lighter fluid for isntance. No such thing as a safe dose. some people can sniff it and be fine. others - at the first whiff of it experience massive bronchospasm and asphyiate and die. [spelling! :frown:

]

The govt doesn't ban drugs for ***** and giggles. Ecstasy does very little wrong social behaviour wise - it is banned because it is so dangerous. same goes for many drugs.

Reply 13

Herleif

Jamie

see its a misconception about the whole 'overdose' thing with drugs. you don't have to overdose for a drug to kill you. Overdose implies there is a known safe level - where in many drugs there is not.
Take sniffing lighter fluid for isntance. No such thing as a safe dose. some people can sniff it and be fine. others - at the first whiff of it experience massive bronchospasm and asphyiate and die. [spelling! :frown:

]

The govt doesn't ban drugs for ***** and giggles. Ecstasy does very little wrong social behaviour wise - it is banned because it is so dangerous. same goes for many drugs.

But lighter fluid isnt banned :/

But they ban weed for example. I mean who dies trying weed??

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rock_eleven

Herleif Arkadios

But lighter fluid isnt banned :/

But they ban weed for example. I mean who dies trying weed??

lighter fluid has OTHER USES OMG!!! afaik it IS illegal to sell solvent **** to someone if u have reason to believe theyre gonna huff it

Reply 15

rock_eleven

lighter fluid has OTHER USES OMG!!! afaik it IS illegal to sell solvent **** to someone if u have reason to believe theyre gonna huff it

quite. also can't sell to under-18s.

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