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    There are more than just the bare facts to consider...there are the possibilities of a change in scenario... by keeping someone alive that is a terrorist there are always possibilities for him to escape and kill people. Or else people trying to demand his release, may hold a plane ransom and kill hostages until he is released, this will result in future murders unless capital punishment is enforced.
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    (Original post by Shaft)
    There are more than just the bare facts to consider...there are the possibilities of a change in scenario... by keeping someone alive that is a terrorist there are always possibilities for him to escape and kill people. Or else people trying to demand his release, may hold a plane ransom and kill hostages until he is released, this will result in future murders unless capital punishment is enforced.
    You didn't watch Air Force One by any chance, did you...?
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    (Original post by timeofyourlife)
    Please no, not that argument again.
    I'll stop if you give me my cookies and milk! You can PM me for the address to send the aformentiioned milk and cookies.
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    (Original post by JSM)
    if you have another sleepless night, could you scan or type it in
    Well I've often thought of trying to type up some of my old papers again. Just so that I could perhaps use them again down the road for notes etc. But doing it from memory wouldn't be the same. I'll be more than happy to field any questions though. I'll either know the answer and be able to back it up, or not know and politely state as much.
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    (Original post by sazzles)
    I'll stop if you give me my cookies and milk! You can PM me for the address to send the aformentiioned milk and cookies.
    I don't recall you meeting the conditions for my generous offer...?
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    (Original post by timeofyourlife)
    I don't recall you meeting the conditions for my generous offer...?
    I definitely did enough for a cookie, and probably the milk as well. Oh well, if you don't want to give me my well-earned snacks, I guess I just have to keep going on about reformed prisioners....
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    (Original post by lala)
    Like I said, no.
    I think after all that we'll have to agree to disagree *sigh*
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    (Original post by sazzles)
    I definitely did enough for a cookie, and probably the milk as well. Oh well, if you don't want to give me my well-earned snacks, I guess I just have to keep going on about reformed prisioners....
    I'm sure if we sent all the "reformed" prisoners to live with you, there'd be a sudden change of heart . You can have a virtual cookie crumb, and that's because I'm in a good mood.
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    (Original post by timeofyourlife)
    I think after all that we'll have to agree to disagree *sigh*
    That is one way of putting it. Yet I'm a little different. When I know I'm right, I'll always try to educate others for the common good. Despite what people may feel at the time, when they look back they see I've always been right. So I disagree to disagree. :P Death peanalty is wrong. Any who feel otherwise, please do PM me or something and I shall teach you a thing or two on morals, justice and ethics. Sire... out.
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    (Original post by sazzles)
    Why should life mean life?
    Why not give prisioners a chance to reform
    I'm all for repentance. However, if one is truly contrite then one not only accepts the punishment but welcomes it!
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    (Original post by yawn1)
    I'm all for repentance. However, if one is truly contrite then one not only accepts the punishment but welcomes it!
    They might feel that release would allow them to contribute to society. Anyway, they will always suffer the punishment of guilt - worse than imprisionment I think.
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    (Original post by yawn1)
    I'm all for repentance. However, if one is truly contrite then one not only accepts the punishment but welcomes it!
    thats a christian attitude of forgiveness, should it be relevent in today's society?
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    (Original post by Sire)
    That is one way of putting it. Yet I'm a little different. When I know I'm right, I'll always try to educate others for the common good. Despite what people may feel at the time, when they look back they see I've always been right. So I disagree to disagree. :P Death peanalty is wrong. Any who feel otherwise, please do PM me or something and I shall teach you a thing or two on morals, justice and ethics. Sire... out.
    Australia, huh? It must be in the genes . You can't say with any certainty that you are 'right' because it is all a matter of opinion. Maybe you could teach the would-be murderers a thing or two on morals and ethics? I'm sure they'd oblige sparingly.
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    (Original post by sazzles)
    Anyway, they will always suffer the punishment of guilt - worse than imprisionment I think.
    Good god, please stop.
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    (Original post by JSM)
    thats a christian attitude of forgiveness, should it be relevent in today's society?
    I'm atheist and I think forgiveness is very relavent. If everyone held grudges for everything, today's society could not function.
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    (Original post by timeofyourlife)
    Good god, please stop.
    I stop when I get my cookie.
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    (Original post by sazzles)
    I'm atheist and I think forgiveness is very relavent. If everyone held grudges for everything, today's society could not function.
    Without law and justice, society would not function. We can not rely on everyone's moral conscience to sustain that!
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    (Original post by timeofyourlife)
    Australia, huh? It must be in the genes . You can't say with any certainty that you are 'right' because it is all a matter of opinion. Maybe you could teach the would-be murderers a thing or two on morals and ethics? I'm sure they'd oblige sparingly.
    I certainly would if given the chance. All I ask is an open mind, and teach I shall. Unless of course someone can prove me wrong on the topic. Then I shall be the one learning. The easiest way to go about is this. If you were the sucker whom I set up in the earlier post. Would you wish for the death penalty to be carried out on you? Answer honestly, and it has to be no. Nobody wants to die for a crime someone else committed. Unless you begin to talk about the old fashioned loyalties of the Mafia, Yakuza etc. But that is sacrifice, and something different entirely.
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    (Original post by sazzles)
    I'm atheist and I think forgiveness is very relavent. If everyone held grudges for everything, today's society could not function.
    its your christian socialisation
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    (Original post by JSM)
    thats a christian attitude of forgiveness, should it be relevent in today's society?
    Why do you think that forgiveness is purely the prerogative of Christians? Most of humankind seek to forgive as it leads to inner peace. Ask a Buddhist
 
 
 
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